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Lets Paint The Kettle Black (2) Do You Have A Bitch ? Put On Your Rubbers And Wade In.

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by ireland, Jul 25, 2007.

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  1. GrandpaBW

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    She was found guilty of copyright infringement on 20 songs, only. She has to pay around $225,000 in penalties. Duluth is about 75 miles from me.
     
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    Quick, get a tourniquet! You must stop the bleeding from your heart.

    I agree with you that they shouldn't serve prison time, but I don't think you want to know what I think should happen instead. :wink:
     
  3. Auslander

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    as for the definition of insanity, agreed. but i also think our prison system is crap. ^.~

    if they were actually mentall ill, and they had overcome their illness and been released, they wouldn't be criminals.

    i don't believe the mentally ill can be considered criminals, as they are operating with a mental deficiency. they should be treated in a way to correct this imbalance (mental, rather than behavioral, rehabilitation), then put back into society as functional human beings.

    bruce, it's always good to hear from you. :)
     
  4. Shardel

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    There is also not guilty by mental defect.
    If perpetrators are put in prison after being released from mental
    hospital, they would not necessarily have to serve a full term for
    the crime. There is such a thing as parole. It would be another
    level of protection for the public.
    I agree with your assesment of our prison system, but it's what we've
    got. So until we change it we must use it the way it is.
     
  5. Auslander

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    or we could just give Auslander a gun. :)

    in all seriousness, though, if a person is being released from an asylum, they should be deemed mentally fit and ready for re-integration into society. taking someone in that corrected state and putting them into an institution known from turning upright citizens into the scourge of civilization is not an idea i approve of.
     
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    I remember a situation involving mental illness from not long ago. The reason I remember was the criminal died in prison while awaiting execution. He had been locked up for a long time due to mental illness. After a lot of years he was found competent to stand trial. He was tried and sentenced to death. But as I mentioned, he died from multiple illnesses before execution (what illnesses not mentioned).

    I've heard some health professionals say mental illness is incurable and that it can only be treated with varying levels of success. For example, schizophrenia is treatable with drugs. Problem is when the patients are acting normal they think they don't need the drugs. When left on their own most stop taking the drugs and start exhibiting symptoms again. The symptoms are treatable, but the illness still exists. Most professionals are finally coming to the conclusion sociopaths are incurable. They were born lacking the psychological imprinting needed to properly fit into society. Those are the ones we see in the news (serial killers and mass murderers). With the Keys child, I'm left wondering if he is a victim of conditioning or has a mental illness. That will most likely be determined before trial.
     
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    NO chance :p
     
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    @Auslander

    You make a good point , but the asylum hospitals-and I use that term loosely- have a finite number of beds just as the prisons have cells; and must push some "cured" out the door to make room for others. These are the ones that are potential time bombs. There are no easy solutions. Politicians just throw money at both problems. JM2C

    Edit Spelling and Bitch: I have to go to continuing ed course today. Back to school. I'd rather be working.
     
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    I know how you feel. I have Safety/Quality classes coming up...last year they used a cartoon to tell us how to get a Giraffe and an elephant to work together (diversity training). We also have a rules class every year we have to attend that takes 8 hours. We go over our rules books, which are as thick as two Harry Potter books put together, and then tested on it (FRA requirement). The funny thing is the test answers always seem to get left in the copy machine two weeks before the test and the testers leave the room when the tests are handed out. :D
     
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    @LOCO

    And that's the way it should remain! I survived CE-the kicker was the speaker was a dentist from U Florida with whom we have a big game tomorrow night. I have two SEC alma maters LSU and Tennessee-Both dreaded enemies of Florida.

    Back in college-UT, it seems my roommate was doing a physiology prof's secretary. She gave us 90% of the final exam. Sweet at the time. Actually the class was pretty easy anyway.
     
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    i spend tomorrow chainsawing firewood...

    ..fun :)
     
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    Well that's upsetting!!! I wanted to cut some firewood!! :p Have fun and be careful Aus!!! Chainsaws are NOT toys....hehehe.

    ...........gm
     
  13. Auslander

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    actually, i do enjoy it. in a few hours, i should be able to cut pretty much all we'll need all winter as well as clear out a lot of the storm damage created over the past few years.

    plus, it will make my parents happy. :)

    if all goes well, this will be my last project for them 'til i remodel their bathroom this christmas.
     
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    Making the parents happy is always good. :)

    What are you cutting?? I'm guessing Oak from your area. :)

    Bathroom remodel huh?? General handyman there Aus?? Nice to see a young man help out his parents so much...you is a good boy!! :D

    ...gm

    My complaint of the day is I have one more day of work before I get to take vacation!!! :p

    edit: forgot the y...lol
     
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    gm, da!!!!
     
  16. Auslander

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    oak is the gist of it. possibly some hickory and definitely cedar. :)

    they're basically giving me an interest-free loan on school: they're making the minimum payments 'til i get out, then i pick them up. they don't even care if i pay them back for what they've covered (i will), but i feel the least i can do is help out around the place when i'm back home. both my parents work too much to get many projects done, and i typically do them so much faster, anyway, lol.

    i may only be 20, gm, but if you give me a completely trashed and run-down house with nothing but a decent foundation, i can rebuild it without any real strain. in fact, my plan after graduating is just that: finding a crappy place and flipping it around work.

    i also do groundskeeping (hell, did it professionally for a while), basic automotive maintenance and repair, and computer repair. i won't even dig into all the crap i could tutor for. ^.~

    Auslander is proud to be quite useful in nearly any situation. :p

    *edit*
    and don't even get me started on survivalism. i'm a real ready-when-TSHTF type of guy. XD
     
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    Lol I've never seen that one abbreviated before, but I know what it means!
     
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    it means i never go anywhere without my machete ^.~
     
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    Is someone making fun of poor lil o me?? OR just being plain o mean... :p

    ....gm

    Good for you Aus!! You need to be on my friends to take on a camping trip list and when TSHTF you'll know what to do. hehehe. :p

    edit: wish that I could get me hands on some of that Hickory!! That's good smoking wood right there buddy. :D How far are you from West Plains?? My parents live near there. ;)
     
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    hillsboro, missouri; 45 miles south-southwest of st louis.

    i'm sure my dad would sell you some. :p
     
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