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  1. brobear

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    Different story here. Anyone with a scrip is welcome.
     
  2. ddp

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    me, almost 47 years with cerebal palsey. born with it.
     
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    bummer, ddp, my hat is off to you. Makes my complaints look minimal, not an easy thing to have.
     
  4. ddp

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    mine was a mild case & had 2 operations on my legs when 4 & 10yrs old so had to learn to walk 3 times. they only recently found out what caused cerebal palsey. the fetus has a stroke & depending on the severity of the stroke damage depends on how bad of cerebal palsey the baby gets. just like an adult stroke but as a fetus.
     
  5. tocool4u2

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    LOL i was on some last night for an Operation i had yesterday....And yes that does make you feel good.....But it gives me a nasty stomachache when it wears off..So i have to take a pervacid when i take it....I think it is actaully better than Morphine....
    Hope you are doing good...and recovered from your surgeries

    Are you sure it was oxicodon because i only got like 12 or something.......Because you can get addicted from that if you take it everyday(In fact I did)When they took me off it i got really sick vomiting and everything..It sucked..
    And also i can only take one every 4 hours.........Maybe it could be my size?....
     
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  6. gerry1

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    @arniebear and tocool4U....I didn't realize you said oxycodone. Oxycodone is the generic name for percocet ... oxycontin in time released percocet. THe same but timereleased.

    @ddp... my hats off to you as well! What you said was very interesting for two reasons; I didn't know that cerebal palsy came in varing degrees nor did I ever hear about it being caused by a fetus having strokes. Wasn't there a lot of talk some years ago about it also being caused by poor methods of delivery or mistakes made at delivery?

    @tocool4u...I think its only addictive when abused like many things: I take three 40mg tabs of oxycontin three times a day and four tabs of oxycodone a day and have for many years. I don't get the shakes or anything should I forget it home or stay at a friends or anything. I'm told that narcotics is also like booze in the sense that your far more easily addicted to it if you have a certain type of body chemistry. I know thats true for alcoholics; I don't know if it is for narcotics.
     
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  7. tocool4u2

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    it's probubly because i am immune suppressed so my body acts differently to certain meds....I am even restricted to eat Grapefruit(i hate it anyway..LOL)

    By the way i forget what it is called i will check not sure if it is oxicodone or oxicotten..But i know it is a percicet(spelling)?

    Edit: Yep it is Oxicodone....But i think it is basically the same......
     
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    My friend how do you function with so much oxycontin and oxycodone in ye? Those are powerful meds! Useful but powerful.
     
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    gerry, a malpractice lawyer found out when investigating why there was as many cp's thru c-section as there was thru normal birth.
     
  10. brobear

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    garmoon
    I mentioned what happened earlier. The body gets used to the narcotics and they become less potent. Normally, as time passes, most pain management patients are given higher dosages to compensate.
     
  11. brobear

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    LOL Good thing I don't go around complaining, I'm the the poster boy for health and vitality around here. ;)

    ddp
    There's a number of causes for cerebral palsy, including the stroke you mention. Trauma during birth is another cause. Often, especially with 1st babies, the fetus is in the birth canal, when the decision to do the c-section is made. Poor prenatal care and poor orthopedic technique could also be a factor in a C-section. Once the brain damage happens, there's no cure, just treatment. That's one scenario. Also, infants can develop cerebral palsy after birth due to head injuries. Child abuse can sometimes be a cause. I'm curious though, so I'll ask gerry's question, what did the lawyer find?

    Surgery is done to relieve symptoms of spastic cerebral palsy. Is that the type you have, or one of the others, or a mix?
     
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    the surgery was on my legs but the cp affected mostly my left side of body including speech. the speech is at normal now like most normal adults. some people notice my left arm whereas others see how i walk especially when tired.
     
  13. brobear

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    You made me curious, what did the lawyer find on the C-Sections?
     
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  14. gerry1

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    @garmoon... I've been taking such meds for a long time now so I guess I've just acclimated. Brobear was right but only in part. Like many, I use to think that because I wasn't getting "high" any more that the oxycontin has lost its effectiveness. On a number of occasions, I just stopped the medication saying to myself that "well...the pain seems to have calmed down some and the oxycontin doesn't seem to be effective anymore, so I might as well not take it anymore". BIG MISTAKE! The first couple of days, the pain increases only slightly but rapidly escalates until its out of control...then, it takes weeks before getting back to the status quo. Just because you don't get high anymore, doesn't mean its lost its effectiveness. For obvious reasons doctors start with the lowest dose; the people brobear knew probably acclimated to the "high" before they reached an effective dose. I take the oxycontin three times a day (its suposed to last 12 hours but 6-8 is more like it...for me anyway). The oxycodone, I take for "breakthrough pain" so I don't take that everyday; when the pain is "status quo"...the usual 24/7 variety, I don't take it but when it starts "acting up", then I take one or two percocet every four hours in addition.

    I consider myself fortunate because my pain is well controlled...I've got my medications, I got specific exercises to do, I follow a schedule with a tens/ems unit and quaterly cervical epidural steroid and trigger spot injection. It works remarkably well and that makes all the difference because when its out of control, there is pain and nothing else...the rest of life happens in the perifery. I'm really quite lucky compared to some.

    @brobear...."Poster-boy for health and vitality" huh??? When I chase you around the block waving my cane at you, I'll show you what vitality is ...you young whipper-snapper you LOL!!!
     
  15. brobear

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    Gerry
    I only gave the short version, your longer explanation goes to more detail. The lower dosage start and gradually increasing dosage is the typical approach. I didn't mean to imply that the meds lost their effectiveness, but as the tolerance increases, in many cases the dosage has to be increased to realize the same analgesic effect as before. Getting past the high is just part of the system getting used to the med. Seems the human body can get used to a lot of things.

    As for your catching me with your cane, not likely if I'm on my bike. ;) I've not done much running since track in HS. I'd probably concede the footrace. LOL
     
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  16. gerry1

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    @brobear....Ah, my apologies. One thing I have noticed is that you always know whereof you speak or you don't speak it! (Actually, I'm a CIA internet spy and I see you googling between our exchanges LOL). I brought it up because its a common, perhaps even logical mistake. "I'm not getting high anymore so it musn't be working like it did" is what most people think; hell, I did the same. (And as I mentioned in another post, I tend to ramble...at least I can't be accused of leaving out the details LOL!)

    I envy you my friend; Lord how I miss riding a bicycle! I would never ride a bike living in downtown Philly but have thought of getting one for the parks; we have some large parks with great bike and hiking trails but I could really hurt myself if I fall and falling is likely sooner or later. I'm thinking of joining this hiking and camping group though...it was a passion of mine for years. I'm going to put a light backpack together and try it with a friend just to see if I can still do it. Just something light and easy for an afternoon try. Have a good night brobear; I'm hitting the hay early!
     
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    brobear, just that he found just as many cp's thru c-sections as there was thru normal births. the only conclusion than that the cp was caused before birth either thru c-section or normal way. when you think about it cp is the infant version of what happens when an adult has a stroke. mild stroke little or minor damage, major stroke major damage to the brain.
     
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  18. brobear

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    Gerry
    You're "dead on" on the bicycling. I lived in Lexington, KY a few years ago. Plenty of places to bike, bike routes, trail sections in parks, the works. You can ride downtown there. It's a bike friendly city. Almost has to be with the majority of college kids biking around. UK and Transy are only a few miles apart. It was easier a lot of times to bike instead of taking a car, if the trip wasn't over a few miles. Long story short, one icey day I took a turn onto a drive that had a slight ridge. Good thing I wasn't going fast or it would have sent me to the hospital; but the fall alone triggered acute back pain. So I don't bicycle as much nowadays and when I do I'm more careful.

    I live in the country now. You wouldn't believe all the natural beauty I have around me. Mountains, rivers, lakes, deer, elk, bears, bears...bears, LOL. Actually not as many places to safely ride a bike as in the city. Now my biking is with a motorcycle. If I'm tooling around on my motorcycle and take a fall, I'll more than likely end up in the hospital. ;) Sorta arse backwards of me moving toward the more dangerous. The wife thinks I'm crazy sometimes. Hell, the way I see it, you only go around once. The other old dogs and I like ralleys and plan on attending more this year. We're nice though, we let younger guys ride with us. LOL

    I'll match my cycle against your cane any day. Still no footraces though. LOL Catch you later (if you'll not speeding around).

    Have a good one.
     
  19. brobear

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    ddp
    I thought the lawyer might have found something out of the ordinary. Percentage wise though, if one takes into account the various causes of CP and how C-Sections come about, it makes sense that the levels would be close. You're "right on" about CP with children being like what happens with adult stroke victims. Both result in damage to brain tissue and that can't be replaced or repaired. The damage is permanent. Your analogy of the extent of damage gives a clear take on the range of damage as well, from minor to major.

     
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