I didn't realize Temple has an open admissions policy. Now I believe what you were saying. Temple is merely an extension of the problems seen in the public school system. Luckily that isn't the case in most schools, or at least those trying to keep some semblance of quality. Is that open policy only for in state students or does that apply to anyone applying? I wonder what percentage of new med students are Temple undergrads? I haven't researched the schools, but I remember the ones family members, my friends, and I applied to required solid SATs or you didn't get any consideration. So, as far as major colleges and universities, Temple appears to be an exception. Degrees don't insure jobs. Your "fries" joke about Temple graduates show the school's problem isn't a secret. Other than the grad programs, Temple isn't the respected school it once was. The school lowered its standards and in the process lost its reputation for quality. I suspect the professional schools (Medical, Dentistry, ...) didn't lower their standards to reflect the undergrad policy, at least I hope they didn't.