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Lets Paint The Kettle Black,Do You Have A Bitch On Whats Going On Around The Site Or Any Thing Negative To Report

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by ireland, Mar 28, 2006.

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  1. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    My boy just turned two, the boys who knocked him down were probably about eight. My boy will be taught manners or it will be his ass that is red. My parents weren't strict but I knew what respect was and how to be polite. Saying "Thank You" and "Yes Sir", "Yes M'am", "No thank you" are easy things to do, I don't see why parents don't teach this kind of social ettiquette their children these days. It makes soceity look bad and gives alot of people a reason to be disrespecful to many people.
     
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    There was very little physical discipline, when I raised my kids. But I taught them respect for others, and they in turn are raising their kids the same. Supposedly, according to my old college prof, people obey laws/rules for two reasons either love or fear. Since my kids didn't fear me I guess it was love with them. Wonder if that holds true for todays generation.
     
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    it's not just over there i'm afraid
    it seems that the parents are scared of their kids now a days
     
  4. arniebear

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    Maybe it is because kids have so much more nowadays, and feel entitled to it. Used be you dreamed of Xmas and that gift you were gonna get, now it Xmas everyday. No goals to reach, they don't seem to be needed.
     
  5. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    I think today it would be love and only love, because if the kids fear you they will just call the cops. I won't physically discipline my boy, what I said above was a figure of speech. I hope that he is well behaved enough that spanking won't be an option. Time will only tell what our child rearing skills hold.
     
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    That is the key, if they love you, they don't want to do anything to hurt you. My thing has always been that you really need to take the time to listen to what your kids are telling, even when you want to scream in pain, because somewhere in all of it is something important. You need to really know what is going on in their world, otherwise you won't know when something is wrong in it.
     
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    Bringing up children
    Reviewed by Stuart Crisp, paediatric specialist registrar

    Raising a child is one of the hardest, most responsible and satisfying tasks a human being can face. It is also the job for which people receive the least formal training.

    Each person's knowledge of how to bring up a child usually comes from their surroundings and their own upbringing. This may result in patterns from the parent's own social experiences being repeated and passed on to their children.

    Parents are role models

    Parents are the most influential role models children are likely to have. Parents who pay compliments and show respect, kindness, honesty, friendliness, hospitality and generosity to their children will encourage them to behave in the same way.

    Parents should express their unconditional love for their children, as well as provide them with the continued support they need to become self-assured and happy.

    It is also important that parents set reasonable expectations for their children and tell them in plain words what they expect from them.

    Why is discipline necessary?


    Parents-to-be
    Before having a child, it's a good idea for both partners to understand each other's attitudes to parenting.
    You can do this by talking about the issues raised in this article.
    Discipline is important when bringing up a child. Through discipline your child learns that some kinds of behaviour are acceptable and others are not. Setting boundaries for children's behaviour helps them to learn how to behave in wider society.

    Discipline is difficult to deal with because it demands consistency. Being a parent is a 24-hour job. The rules have to apply every day.

    Inconsistency and lack of discipline create confused and rootless children who will test their parents constantly to find out what the world is all about.

    Spending enough time with your children

    Finding time to spend together as a family can be difficult. In many households, parents have to go to work, which limits the time they have to spend with their children. In addition, children are involved in school and other activities.

    Try to arrange a time each day, such as during breakfast or dinner, when the entire family can be together. Fixed routines are important for children.

    It's also a good idea for everyone to get together and talk. Mealtimes provide a perfect opportunity to chat about the events of the day. Everybody should take part in the conversation: parents should pay attention and show interest in whatever their children say.

    Children like to have special days reserved for special activities. For example, Thursday afternoon at the library with Dad, or Friday night swimming with Mum.

    Encourage your children to take part in planning activities. It's good for a family to do a variety of fun things together, such as playing games and going to the movies or concerts.

    What will good communication teach children?

    Offering explanations will help children work matters out for themselves. Take time to point out how things are connected, for example, in terms of cause and effect.

    Parents who think out loud with their children will see them develop a similar train of thought. They will learn to talk and think in a more sophisticated way.

    If parents express emotions and feelings, their children will learn it's okay to do the same.

    When your children want to talk or ask questions, encourage them. If you are dismissive or always say you are too busy, they may express frustration and stop wanting to share their thoughts and feelings.

    If the family has a problem that concerns your child, involve them in the discussion. Try to find possible solutions together with him or her.

    When discussing options, also talk about consequences. The possible outcome will influence your final decision. Be open to the child's suggestions. Let them take part in the negotiations and the decision.

    A child who experiences this kind of communication will become very confident and learn the rules of good communication.

    Based on a text by Dr Stephen Collins, GP

    Last updated 04.01.2005
    http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/upbringing.htm


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    You's are so right I wonder every day what has happened with people raising their kids with no manners or respect for others. After being married for 23 years and back into the dating thing it's unbeleivable how 10, 12, & 14 year olds talk to their parents and others. My 2 kids would never have uttered the words I hear now. what happened along the way? And the parents just seem to have a blind eyes to it.Chris
     
  9. gerry1

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    Ah yes, but that scenerio goes both ways. Sometimes, whether in my office, on the street or on a bus, I can't believe my ears when I hear how some people talk to their kids...and the language they use when hurling obscenities at them.
     
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    I sometimes wonder if people want to be parents, or they want to be buddies.
     
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    Yes Gerry1 I left out that part to I never used those words around my kids or allowed it around them. I'm not a saint just a hell raiser with a double life. But you're so right on how I've heard people in the stores talk to their kids nowa days . Well as Ireland would say time for the mornin coffee and smoke at the local choke and puke . Chris
    Arniebear I wonder if parents want to be parents or Buddies

    I sometimes wonder if the parents don't want the kids at all and the responsibilitys of parenting that cuts into ther freedom.
     
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    My bitch this morning is that all that is going on in the Middle East is going to make me go broke, I see my gas prices going up to five bucks a gallon. Lucky I will be able to rent a DVD let alone buy one. Is it only me, or is the whole world becoming unstable, what with Korea and the Middle East. Not only that but the crime rate in the country is going up, what is going on?
     
  13. gerry1

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    Yeah, things are getting awefully screwy! A lot has happened in the last week.

    Strange you should mention the violence...they just had this thing on the news that twelve people were murdered in Philly just last night, there have been 930 shootings this year and I think it was 215 gun deaths. This morning, they were talking about bringing in the PA national guard into Philly to help the cops. Unbelievable!
     
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    The crime rate has been escalating the last five years, what does that say? Something is wrong in this country and I don't think there is enough being done to fix it, the nation's priorities are out of whack. Congress needs to get off it's a$$ and look at what is going on, they are so dam out of touch :(
     
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    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm thinking of moving to the country.
     
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    @LOCOENG

    What country? LOL The problem this country is having is the kids are NOT being reared to respect anything especially others. Just like your bitch in this thread with the kid and your son. It's Me Me Me.
     
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    LOL....Thee country, with rolling hills and no neighbors or subdivisions.
     
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    I want my own private caribbean island.
     
  19. gerry1

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    Somewhat off subject; or at least marginally related...this is my Dad's favorite story:

    When I was four or five years old (before the reaches of my memory anyway), there was a boy my age named Maurice...he lived in the next house and even at that young age, he'd learnt to be a bully just like his Dad.

    Without fail, every time I went in the yard to play, there was Maurice. Everytime I brought my toys outside, Maurice would show up; he would steal my toys and go home. This went on for a long time; I'd bring my toys outside, Maurice would steal my toys and I would run into the house and cry. Over and over again this happened...Maurice steals and I run in and cry. This really concerned my Dad; it bothered him that I should be such a whimp and come in and cry whenever Maurice stole my toys and threw his weight around. Dad, as dads are wont to do, decided that it was time for some fatherly advice so he took me aside and told me that it was time I started sticking up for myself; I should stand my ground and not let Maurice steal my toys. This seemed to mean so much to my Dad so I took his sage advice very seriously. Predicatably, as was his habit, Maurice came not long after our talk and tried to steal one of my toys. Dad said I had to stick up for myself; Dad said I couldn't let Maurice steal my toys so, when Maurice tried to abscond with yet another of my toys, I hit him in the head with a shovel. Mom and Dad having witnessed this from the kitchen came running into the yard ... with Maurice laying unconscious on the driveway and bleeding profusely from the scalp, I stood there, all smiles and proud as a peacock for sticking up for myself and not letting Maurice steal my toys. I knew Dad would be so proud!

    Maurice was fine after a whole lot of stiches to the head and we actually grew up to be good friends. I don't think Mom talked to Dad for two weeks though. For quite a while afterwards, I remember Mom telling my Dad ...."Don't you even start giving him any of your wonderful fatherly advice" ..and things of the sort.

    This is Dad's favorite story of me as a boy. Pity I was too young to remember any of it.
     
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    @arniebear

    You can get a cheap islet off the Louisiana Gulf Coast now for a song. It may be gone before you can move in. You won't get the oil royalties tho'!
     
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