I agree. Nero is nice and I like having all the capabilities, though I don't use them all the time. In fact, some I never use, like MediaHome. With the more elaborate photo apps available, I don't use Nero much for that either. But for burning, transcoding, conversion and the like, Nero is hard to beat. For those wanting a package and not particularly wanting to invest in separate programs, Nero supplies a fairly comprehensive suite. Nero Express is probably the most heavily used app in the suite for me, seconded by Recode2. Doing a lot of backups, it's only seldom the other apps are called for. The Burning ROM is an elaborate burning tool, but for most tasks, the Nero Express wizard will do the same thing with fewer steps and less input. I go for the easier interface. I'm starting to sound like a commercial. LOL For real ease of burning, try CopyToDVD from VSO. That app puts a burning option in the right click menu from the mouse. Now that's fast access to a burn. Guess you can tell, I'm one of those people who likes having multiple apps when one will do. LOL Again though, Nero is the more elaborate when it comes to tweaking settings and will give burn options when CopyToDVD will deny due to warnings. I like the way Nero gives the warning but allows the option to burn in some cases.
@brobear I too have CopyToDVD and enjoy the program, it has burned files that were done by Xcopy Platinum when Nero wouldn't. I have also done some DL backups with this program and they all came out well. It is nice to have another all purpose program, too bad the French want to put in laws that will basically make this program illegal.
That would be strange. None of the other countries I've noticed are being that strict. There are a lot of recording suites capable of transcoding and/or burning DVDs. The trick is they don't have decryption software. Last time I checked, CopyToDVD didn't have any. They have the disclaimers that the app isn't intended for purposes that involve copyright infringement. The software can be used for many purposes besides backing up DVD movies. Sonic-Roxio and Nero do the same thing as most of the other retail transcoders, no decryption. That's why the government chose the 321 XCopy software as a test case in the US, it was the most visible and had decryption software. It was specificly intended for backing up encrypted movies. If you're keeping track of the situation, let me know how it plays out.
Wow! Thanks, guys! My questions thoroughly answered and a Nero history lesson, as well! Well, I've got the download of the new DL12 firmware to update my DL11 on the 4167b. I'm a definite newbie, so just one question: my NEC DVD reader AND my 4167b burner are both on the secondary IDE channel. Do I need to open up the case and physically disconnect the NEC drive before flashing firmware(so that it just thinks there's one drive connected)? And anything else I should do? Thanks again...
No you don't have to do that. When you run the firmware program, there should be a drop down box and you can select the drive you want to update and proceed accordingly.
Okay, but there is that element fo hype in the plea to rally to the cause. You get into interpretation and how the law will be interpreted. In the US and much of the EU, it is illegal to bypass digital encryption. That means no backups of protected digital media. So far the law is going after pirates, as the individual consumer is usually just backing up something he has already purchased the right to use. If interpreted to go as far as the limits of the wording, the proposed French law could ban the use of PCs and any digital recordable media. They're tools for recording movies after all. So, no PCs and DVDs in France, next they'll be powdering those wigs again. Arniebear, Just tossing in a bit of sarcasm as to the state of affairs. Thanks for posting the info. I'm curious to see what happens, keep us informed if you will. Seems if one country does something prohibitive, others like to jump on the bandwagon.
Creaky, just got back from holiday trip, so here's my late post: Success! My 4167b "booktypes" to my TY +R's every time with the newer Nero 6.6.0.18 update, so thanks again for your help!
i have that exact same BURNER the 4167b and i got the newer drivers DL12 but when i put in a burnt movie it doesnt read it and cnat recognize it and when i put in a burnt ps2 game it doesnt recpognize it either it only recognized 1 ps2game Those dvd movies which were burnt worked on another burner and theyw orked on a normal dvd player. im using nero 7.014 what do u think the problem could be?? Can you please help me out plz email or add me on msn Can any1 HELP ME
@baller3 - let's have LAST section of your Nero log which lives in C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\NeroHistory but DO NOT post your serial number which usually begins with '5C' or similar. You can differentiate sections via this section divider "====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======"
@creek hey man here is tha log history :: Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: - ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM NT-SPTI used Nero Version: 7.0.1.4 Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 4 Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B>Version: DL12 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ? CD-ROM: <SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM >Version: 2.7a - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.1.4 Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6L080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a vax347s Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B D: CDRom0 SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM E: CDRom1 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 511MB (523504kB) Free physical memory: 251MB (257468kB) Memory in use : 50 Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 13.1.2006 ISO compilation 6:00:25 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411 Iso document burn settings ------------------------------------------ Determine maximum speed : FALSE Simulate : FALSE Write : TRUE Finalize CD : FALSE Multisession : TRUE Multisession type: : Start multisession Burning mode : DAO Mode : 1 ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char) Character set : ISO 9660 Joliet : TRUE Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE 6:00:25 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525 ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory 6:00:25 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124 Reader running 6:00:25 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 6:00:26 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3342 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 6:00:26 PM #6 Phase 40 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1412 Aborted by user 6:00:26 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: 1589599 (353:14.49, 3104MB) 6:00:26 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 6:00:26 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578 Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer: OPTODI - SCR008 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 6:00:26 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 6:00:26 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 () 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 1589600 (1589600) = #1589600/353:14.50 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1589600 blocks [D: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B] -------------------------------------------------------------- 6:00:26 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059 Prepare recorder [D: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated Tracks 1 to 1: 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3255500800, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 1589600 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 6:00:26 PM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\scsiport.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=90240 bytes, created 10/9/2002 6:10:10 PM (Adapter driver for src) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) ====== *** Nero Burning ROM, History File *** ====== Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: - ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM NT-SPTI used Nero Version: 7.0.1.4 Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 4 Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B>Version: DL12 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ? CD-ROM: <SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM >Version: 2.7a - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.1.4 Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6L080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a vax347s Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B D: CDRom0 SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM E: CDRom1 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 511MB (523504kB) Free physical memory: 75MB (77424kB) Memory in use : 85 Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 13.1.2006 ISO compilation 7:04:15 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411 Iso document burn settings ------------------------------------------ Determine maximum speed : FALSE Simulate : FALSE Write : TRUE Finalize CD : FALSE Multisession : TRUE Multisession type: : Start multisession Burning mode : DAO Mode : 1 ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char) Character set : ISO 9660 Joliet : TRUE Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE 7:04:16 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525 ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory 7:04:16 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124 Reader running 7:04:16 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113 Writer D: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B running 7:04:16 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 7:04:16 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3342 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 7:04:16 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: 1795167 (398:55.42, 3506MB) 7:04:16 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 7:04:16 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578 Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer: OPTODI - SCR008 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 7:04:16 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 7:04:16 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 () 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 1795168 (1795168) = #1795168/398:55.43 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1795168 blocks [D: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B] -------------------------------------------------------------- 7:04:16 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059 Prepare recorder [D: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated Tracks 1 to 1: 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3676504064, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 1795168 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 7:04:16 PM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME 7:04:16 PM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Caching of files started 7:04:16 PM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4176 Cache writing successful. 7:04:16 PM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Caching of files completed 7:04:16 PM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s) 7:04:16 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 7:04:16 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2580 Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession 7:04:16 PM #20 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21611 Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON 7:04:16 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2735 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: Yes 7:04:16 PM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411 ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ---- Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33) Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h) Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW) End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB) Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h Media Specific [16..63]: 00 30 00 10 20 40 00 00 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .0...@.....!.... 00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 7:10:29 PM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116 <D: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1795168 (1B6460h), length 0 blocks 7:10:29 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 7:10:29 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2978 EndDAO: Last written address was 1795167 7:10:35 PM #26 Phase 133 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Writing short lead-out 7:11:10 PM #27 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s) Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\scsiport.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=90240 bytes, created 10/9/2002 6:10:10 PM (Adapter driver for src) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) ====== *** Nero Burning ROM, History File *** ======
@baller3 - - sufficient toal memory but you've got no free memory left; you need to close down more programs prior to ALL dvd work/burning to free up more memory - you're not finalising the disc, hence why it's not recognised in standalones - did you intend to do multisession discs ? - not very good quality discs - you're not finalising the disc, hence why it's not recognised in standalones - try 4x
Way to go Creaky. He's burning crap and not enough system resources. The first thing is to buy some RAM, which is dirt cheap these days; then use some good media.
~creaky Thanks alot mannn really appreciate the help. Yaa tyhose 2 burnt dvds were not mine they were a friends they didnt work on my burner but they did work on my brothers computer
baller3, Aside from bad media, and not enough memory, you have DMA off on your DVD-ROM drive, which could also effect your ripping process. Just in case, here's a how-to fix/check DMA. http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking DMA.pdf HTH, Rich
