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lip sync out in in dvd flick

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  1. english51

    english51 Member

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    hello

    i have put 2 avi files through dvd flick but when the dvd is finished the audio is out of sync what have i done wrong
     
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    Is it aout of sync all the way through? Did you watch each Avi before you convertd to DVD? Forward through the beginning, middle and end of each avi and see if they are in sync. Or better, run them through Avimux to see if there is any problem. load them and click generate data..
     
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  3. english51

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    hello

    yes i checked before i durnt but i also tried it with another film and that was out also
     
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    Hmmm...I never had any issues with DVD Flick. What version do you have installed, the last stable one or the 1.3.00 beta version?
     
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    the beta version
     
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    I have same problem - it's not just lip sync issue - the sound track is a good 5 minutes out of sync

     
  7. skidrowe

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    I, too, am having the same problem using DVD Flick version 1.3.0.0 beta, build 488. So far, I've seen the problem every single time, using either flash video (.flv) or Windows Media Player (WMV)source files. Video and audio are in sync in source files, but audio leads video by a good 5 minutes in burn images on hard drive, as well as on burned DVD. DVD Flick logs contain arcane audio encoding warnings, but don't know what they mean. This would be a terrific program, if not for this nagging problem.
     
  8. Rotary

    Rotary Senior member

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    hmm could be a codec issue, what codecs you ALL got installed?

    another little thing, some 2x avi to 1 film need jionning to stop a slight delay in ms
     
  9. skidrowe

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    Thanks for the reply, Rotary. Below is a list of my installed codecs. I used Sherlock codec detective to discover the codecs. Sherlock flagged several video and audio codecs as being "broken", including an 'FLV read codec'. However, I would think that I would not be able to view AVIs and FLVs in native format if the codecs were hosed. But, fact is, I can view them in native format. In any case, I will work on fixing the 'broken' codecs before posting here again. Also, thanks for the comment "some 2x avi to 1 film need joining to stop a slight delay in ms". But the delay I'm seeing is in the order of many seconds, not milliseconds.

    Codec Reporting Utility Output Text
    -----------------------------------
    Date and Time: 18-Feb-2008 16:11:56

    System Information
    ------------------
    Operating System = Microsoft (R) Windows XP Professional (5.01.2600)
    CPU Descriptor = Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.60GHz
    CPU Clock Speed = 1596 Mhz.
    Total Memory = 503 Mb.
    DirectX Version = 9.0c
    WMI Version = 2600.0000
    ACM Version = 5.00.0

    Video Codecs
    ------------
    AVI Decompressor
    AVI Draw
    Bicubic Video Resizer(flagged as broken)
    Cinepak Codec by Radius
    CoreAVC Video Decoder (flagged as broken)
    CyberLink Video/SP Decoder
    DivX 5.0.5 Codec
    DivX Decoder Filter
    DivX Decoder Filter
    DV Splitter
    DV Video Decoder
    DV Video Encoder
    ENVISION V-CAM
    FLV Video Decoder (flagged as broken)
    Helix I420 YUV Codec
    Helix YV12 YUV Codec
    Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter
    Indeo® video 5.10
    Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter
    Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter
    Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
    Intel Indeo® Video 4.5
    Intel IYUV codec
    LEAD MCMP/MJPEG Codec
    LEAD MCMP/MJPEG Codec (VFW)
    MainConcept (Muvee) MPEG Video Decoder
    MainConcept DV Codec 2.0.4
    MainConcept MPEG Video Decoder
    Microsoft H.261 Video Codec
    Microsoft H.263 Video Codec
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V3
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor
    Microsoft RLE
    Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor
    Microsoft Video 1
    MJPEG Compressor
    MJPEG Decompressor
    MPEG Video Decoder
    Mpeg4 Decoder DMO
    Mpeg43 Decoder DMO
    Mpeg4s Decoder DMO
    MSScreen 9 encoder DMO
    Nero DVD Decoder
    Nero InteractiveGraphics Decoder
    Nero PresentationGraphics Decoder
    Nero Thumbnail Decoder
    Nero Video Decoder
    QT Decompressor
    Radlight Theora Decoder
    STVCOL Transform Filter
    Subtitle Mixer (flagged as broken)
    TrueMotion RT 2.0 by Duck
    USB Dual-Mode Camera
    VBI Surface Allocator
    VDOnet VDOWave
    Video Port Manager
    Vivo H.263 Video Codec
    Windows Media Video Decoder
    Widnows Media Video Decoder
    WMV Screen Decoder DMO
    WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO
    WMVidoe8 Encoder DMO
    WMVidoe9 Encoder DMO
    XviD MPEG-4 Codec
    XviD MPEG-4 Video Decoder
     
  10. Rotary

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    in ms delay some figure like 345ms means a few normal real seconds delay 3 seconds real time etc a rough guide...

    also automated sync fix apps or built into converting apps can knacker a good file, seen this myself, an already good avi played as avi is ok, then when converted the app sees a ms delay which is reporting wrong and will fix it when it wasnt needed...

    check your avi in avimux gui first for a ms delay in relation to the played avi file is ok really as avimux can set the wrong ms delay to 0 as to fool the converting app not too correct it

    also i would uninstall all codec packs in this instance to eradicate this as an issue and only load the avi codec on its own, for xvids = http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/

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    sidenote:

    CoreAVC Video Decoder (flagged as broken) this caused me probs as a standalone install for HD files, so i took it out

    may not mean nothing here but never know?
     
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    Thanks again. Will take your advice and see what happens. Have also posted a query on DVD Flick homepage board, but no responses yet.

    Sidenote: As an experiment, I used the same video source files that DVD Flick rendered with audio/video sync problems and created a DVD using the stripped-down version of Sonic myDVD that came bundled with my HP MediaCenter computer. Sonic produced an acceptable DVD with no sync offsets. So, appears to me that the problem lies in my copy of DVD Flick and its associated codecs. But not ready to give-up on DVD Flick quite yet.
     
  12. Rotary

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    so the files that dvd flick made (WRONG) you burnt useing mydvd and it burnt ok? so that said the burning stage is wrong in dvd flick then? not the encoding part...

    funny i just got an avi with 336 ms delay reported, but i know playing this file is spot on as avi, now perhaps dvd flick has a sync app built in and is seeing a simarlar report on your avi? with mine i will input ZERO a naught 0 to the box and click start/save, and make new avi (only takes a few seconds)

    also to note audio sync correction in software isnt a codec problem, its sort of working correctly but avi file is wrong.

    check your avi and if it does have an ms delay, becareful if useing an app your not sure of, best thing is check avi playing and then check in avimux gui, only takes a few secs i test all mine, thats how i knew this one was wrong before wasting time encoding it wrong

    let us know how it goes ;-])

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. skidrowe

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    I appreciate the time and effort you are putting into helping me troubleshoot. I think you may be onto something. I reviewed the DVD Flick authoring and audio encoding logs. They don't tell the average person much, but I can deduce from some of the log entries that the encoder is encountering some type of audio timing mismatch (see red highlighted text in logs below). I'll look at my source files with AVImux gui and see what I can find. I'll be back with a reply when I have something.....

    Just to clarify, when I ran the experiment with Sonic myDVD, I used this program to perform all processes....encoding, muxing and burning. The same flashvideo (.flv) video source file was processed by both myDVD and DVD Flick. MyDVD worked fine with this source file. DVD Flick introduced the A/V sync offset. In other words, I used both programs to perform all functions (encoding, muxing and burning) on the same source file. Below are the the DVD Flick logs (with apologies for information overload :>)

    dvdauthor log
    "C:\Program Files\DVD Flick\bin\dvdauthor.exe" -x "C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\dvdauthor.xml"
    DVDAuthor::dvdauthor, version 0.6.14.
    Build options: gnugetopt iconv freetype fribidi
    Send bugs to <dvdauthor-users@lists.sourceforge.net>

    INFO: dvdauthor creating VTS
    STAT: Picking VTS 01

    STAT: Processing C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\title0.mpg...
    STAT: VOBU 16 at 5MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 32 at 6MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 48 at 12MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 64 at 18MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 80 at 23MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 96 at 27MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 112 at 33MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 128 at 39MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 144 at 44MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 160 at 46MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 176 at 52MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 192 at 60MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 208 at 64MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 224 at 69MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 240 at 74MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 256 at 79MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 272 at 84MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 288 at 90MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 304 at 96MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 320 at 100MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 336 at 106MB, 1 PGCS
    STAT: VOBU 352 at 114MB, 1 PGCS

    INFO: Video pts = 0.213 .. 144.057
    INFO: Audio[0] pts = 0.213 .. 115.317
    STAT: VOBU 353 at 114MB, 1 PGCS

    INFO: Generating VTS with the following video attributes:
    INFO: MPEG version: mpeg2
    INFO: TV standard: ntsc
    INFO: Aspect ratio: 4:3
    INFO: Resolution: 720x480
    INFO: Audio ch 0 format: ac3/1ch, 48khz drc, 'en'

    STAT: fixing VOBU at 5MB (17/353, 4%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 6MB (33/353, 9%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 12MB (49/353, 13%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 18MB (65/353, 18%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 23MB (81/353, 22%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 27MB (97/353, 27%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 33MB (113/353, 31%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 39MB (129/353, 36%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 44MB (145/353, 40%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 46MB (161/353, 45%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 52MB (177/353, 49%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 60MB (193/353, 54%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 64MB (209/353, 58%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 69MB (225/353, 63%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 74MB (241/353, 67%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 79MB (257/353, 72%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 84MB (273/353, 77%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 90MB (289/353, 81%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 96MB (305/353, 86%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 100MB (321/353, 90%)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 106MB (337/353, 95%)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -8248 (vobu #337, pts 135.882)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -8482 (vobu #338, pts 136.466)


    WARN: audio sector out of range: -8716 (vobu #339, pts 137.050)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -8950 (vobu #340, pts 137.633)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -9184 (vobu #341, pts 138.217)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -9418 (vobu #342, pts 138.801)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -9652 (vobu #343, pts 139.385)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -9886 (vobu #344, pts 139.969)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -10120 (vobu #345, pts 140.553)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -10354 (vobu #346, pts 141.137)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -10588 (vobu #347, pts 141.721)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -10822 (vobu #348, pts 142.305)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -11056 (vobu #349, pts 142.889)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -11290 (vobu #350, pts 143.473)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -11457 (vobu #351, pts 143.890)
    STAT: fixing VOBU at 114MB (353/353, 99%)

    WARN: audio sector out of range: -11492 (vobu #352, pts 144.023)
    STAT: fixed 353 VOBUS
    INFO: dvdauthor creating table of contents
    INFO: Scanning C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\dvd/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO


    ffmpeg_audio_title0_track0_source0 Log
    "C:\Program Files\DVD Flick\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i "c:\documents and settings\hp_administrator\desktop\test_file.flv" -i "C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\0.0.m2v" -map 0:1:1:0 -acodec ac3 -ab 96k -ac 1 -ar 48000 -threads 1 -async 0 "C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\0.0.0.ac3"
    FFmpeg version SVN-r10629, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
    configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libamr-nb --enable-libamr-wb --enable-libfaad --enable-libgsm --enable-gpl --enable-w32threads --enable-swscaler --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver --disable-encoders --enable-encoder=mjpeg --enable-encoder=mpeg2video --enable-encoder=ac3 --enable-demuxers --disable-muxers --enable-muxer=ac3 --enable-muxer=image2 --enable-muxer=mpeg2dvd --enable-muxer=mpeg2video --enable-avisynth
    libavutil version: 49.5.0
    libavcodec version: 51.44.0
    libavformat version: 51.14.0
    built on Sep 30 2007 13:06:26, gcc: 4.2.1

    Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 15.00 (15/1)
    Input #0, flv, from 'c:\documents and settings\hp_administrator\desktop\test_file.flv':
    Duration: 00:01:55.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 64 kb/s
    Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 320x240, 15.000 fps(r)
    Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 22050 Hz, mono, 64 kb/s

    Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 29.97 (30000/1001) -> 15.00 (15/1)
    Input #1, mpegvideo, from 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\0.0.m2v':
    Duration: 00:01:55.0, bitrate: 8001 kb/s
    Stream #1.0: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, 8000 kb/s, 15.000 fps(r)
    Output #0, ac3, to 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\DVD\0.0.0.ac3':
    Stream #0.0: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, mono, 96 kb/s
    Stream mapping:
    Stream #0.1 -> #0.0 [sync #1.0]
    Press [q] to stop encoding
    size= 270kB time=23.0 bitrate= 96.0kbits/s
    size= 560kB time=47.8 bitrate= 96.0kbits/s
    size= 849kB time=72.4 bitrate= 96.0kbits/s
    size= 1135kB time=96.8 bitrate= 96.0kbits/s
    size= 1349kB time=115.1 bitrate= 96.0kbits/s

    video:0kB audio:1349kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.000000%
     
  14. Rotary

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    yeah looks like avi is reporting avi sync issue falsely...

    owait your avimux report....

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    edit

    i may of told you wrong inconjuction with setting 0 in avimux from 336ms delay when a file of avi sync is ok, this may make it go back 336ms to 0ms in effect making it backward out of sync...
     
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    Thanks for all your help, Rotary. Just wanted to let you know, problem solved. I posted my problem on the DVD Flick forum, and got some helpful advice there. The biggest help was finding out that the DVD Flick build was up to 592. I had build 488. The latest build exhibits none of the A/V sync problems I was seeing with the old build. The latest build also encodes much faster. DVD Flick gets my vote as one of the best free programs out there for DVD burning. Thanks once again for your help over the last few weeks.
     
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    Cheers for that last post, i didn't realise there were updates. i'm still using build 442, haven't had any sync or other problems yet, but i'll go look for the latest version just in case. Was just encoding a 2part movie with subtitles, will restart that if i can find the latest build
     
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    creaky:
    I had obtained the 488 build of DVD Flick via the SourceForge.net website, which I've always considered the "official" source for open-source software such as DVD Flick. Little did I know that there are other updates out there. I'm not sure that these are officially sanctioned or not. But, as I noted in my previous post, the version I have now is a great improvement over the 488 build. To find my copy, I did a Google search on "DVD Flick build 592", and got many hits for sites offering downloads of build 572. I downloaded from the first hit and, upon opening the software and clicking on "about...", found that it is actually build 592. Thanks for running a very useful and informative forum.
     
  18. varnull

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    Just my [​IMG]

    Why update software if what you have is working perfectly?? I'm still running things that are 4+ years old because they work flawlessly and I can't see any point in replacing them with betas that may have issues.
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    ..purely as there's loads of fixes listed, but mainly as i hardly use Flick , only for the odd 2part movie that also has subtitles for each part; i'd rather that ConvertXtoDVD could cope with 2part films plus subs but until such time as it can, Flick will do for me. So if it does a bad job i can just reinstall the previous build and re-encode. I keep all the AVI's for a while anyways
     
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    creaky?

    convertxtodvd does cope with 2 part films (merge function) then encode

    and subs...

    http://forums.vso-software.fr/guide-how-to-merge-and-join-video-files-together-t3080.html

    [​IMG]
     
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