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Most reliable high capacity HDD's??

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by mgray69, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. jony218

    jony218 Guest

    I have the vantec nexstar mx dual enclosure, I paid 39.00 (on sale). It's a solid well built enclosure and has a built-in fan. At first I put one 750 gb sata seagate in it, but I needed more storage and added another 750gb sata maxtor. To install a drive just remove 4 screws and the sata drives just slide in.
    Anytime I use it I always have another small fan blowing on the outside of the enclosure. This I do on any external drive I have, I never rely on the small internal fans.
    That's the enclosure I recommend, but it is large and heavy but having an option for adding another hard drive is a definite plus.

    As far as the most reliable drives, seagates and maxtors are the only drives that have never failed on me.

    http://www.vantecusa.com/front/product/view_detail/277
     
  2. mgray69

    mgray69 Member

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    Awesome, thanks again guys for the help.....another question tho;

    If I want to add multiple internal(enclosure) drives, is there anything I need to consider before hand? As in the dual drive enclosure that was mentioned above, does it still just connect via 1 USB cable, or is it going to be one USB cable per drive? Is there anything driver or OS wise that needs to be done to start running multiple drives? Or am I only limited by how many USB ports I have?

    Is that where RAID comes in(still don't clearly understand what it is)??

    I'm thinking in the near future 2 1TB drives is all I'll be running, but I'd like to keep myself open to add more. Just not sure if I need to consider things before hand to set myself up to run more than 1.

    Thanks again guys!
     
  3. jony218

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    On my dual vantec enclosure, it's just one USB connector that connects to the computer. It's plug and play on my windows xp (no drivers needed), I can connect it to any computer and it will be automatically recognize.

    The vantec, I just use it in the basic configuration. Each hard drive shows up with it's own drive letter when connected to the computer. But for those who want the "raid" configuration it can be setup that way, but I prefer to keep it simple.

    Theres really no limit on how many external harddrives or internal hard drives you can connect to the computer and run at the same time. As long as you have the available connectors and usb ports. On my media computer I have 3 internal and 2 external drives, sometimes I run them all at the same time with no problem.
     
  4. sammorris

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    Indeed that enclosure, or for europeans the IcyBox ST-3220 will do the same job. The IcyBox doesn't do RAID, but RAID for an external box is ludicrous, at 30MB/s it's only worth using RAID1.
     
  5. creaky

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    ..continued from here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/711055

    The 'e' denotes external. Other than that i believe the speed etc is the same as internal SATA. e-SATA ports are connected thru to the motherboard.

    I think i might have confused things a few posts up the page - i was saying that i preferred using internal SATA connections over external as the e-SATA enclosure i had bought, always required a reboot (after turning it on) before it would 'see' the disk. It did this on subsequent power-ons of the enclosure, i had no patience to research whether all enclosures did it or not. I sold the enclosure, moved it's hard drive internal to the PC, then i bought an e-SATA to SATA cable so that i could use an e-SATA port to run the internal disk - i had a spare hard drive bay but no free SATA ports on the motherboard you see, and i already have a PCIe SATA controller, which is cheapy and not as fast as it claims to be.
    (My motherboard has 5 SATA ports, 2 e-SATA ports, room inside case for 6 hard drives. I also have 2 SATA dvd burners hence the cheapy PCIe card that provides 2 SATA ports. One day i will buy a decent PCIe card that has 4 ports if such a thing exists (mine has 4 ports but you can only use 2 at a time, how crap is that).

    (There's also 1 internal IDE dvd burner and 3 USB2.0 connected IDE dvd burners connected to this pc).
     
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  6. mgray69

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    Ok I'm still confused tho. If the e-SATA connects directly to the motherboard, what make it any different from SATA? I'm sure the motherboard doesn't know/care if the drive is attached inside the case or outside. Seems the same as attaching a SATA drive, but instead of having the drive inside the computer, it's on the outside, but the connector is the same?
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    The connectors are different, i don't know why though.

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    P.S. That's the first picture i found, internal SATA connectors are also L shaped even though that diagram doesn't state it. Plus as far as i was aware, there are only e-SATA connectors on the outside of a pc case, but i'll gladly be proved wrong.
     
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  8. mgray69

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    Alright guys, keeping all in this thread I guess....

    I'm now confused with the WD and Seagate lineup. I think the latest models I should be checking out are the WD Caviar and the Seagate Barracuda. I'm not sure what models are the latest or best. Reliability is what I'm after.

    With WD, is is the Caviar black, or green that is the newest?

    With Seagate, is it the Barricuda ES.2, or the 7200.11 that is the newest?

    Also, I think I saw a Seagate drive with a MTBF of 1.4...but can't seem to find it again. Anyone know?

    Also, would getting a notebook 2.5 drive be more durable/reliable than a desktop drive?
     
  9. sammorris

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    Not read much about the Blacks, the Greenpower drives are the new energy efficient, silent ones, but probably won't match the Seagates for speed. The Blacks on the other hand are probably the faster ones.
     
  10. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Am just formatting my latest 3 WD drives that have gone straight into USB2.0 enclosures. They're WD5000AAKB drives, bringing the total of WD drives on this PC to 15. You'd never guess i like WD drives eh :p
     
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    AAKB? Aren't they the IDE ones?
     
  12. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Yup, i have 7 AAKB IDE's and 6 are AAKS's ie SATA, and a couple of smaller WD's
     

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