movie shows twice during encoding

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  1. ms_twana

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    Once again, thanks Flip. I think you are my dvd burning guardian angel.
     
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    I seemed to have the same issue as ms_twana and you all seem to agree, "remove the tick from deep analysis" to stop what appears to be double work. However, I can't find this in Shrink 3.1.7.6 under the preferences. Can anyone tell me where it is? Thanks
     
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    Unchecking "perform deep analysis" will NOT stop the so called double work. Shrink will analize the disc or file upon opening, then it will analize again, then it will encode.

    When you open Shrink, Click "backup!", I think its the third tab :)
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    Once again Flip218, thanks. But...I did go to preferences and I looked at least 3 times. I didn't see anything regarding "perform deep analysis". There are 5 tabs form Preferences to File I/O (I even looked again as I typed this out). No such thing. I don't even mind that it encodes it twice, but it takes 1-2 hours each time and my system isn't that slow. I have a PIII, 966 mhz, 25 gig free HDD, 512 memory etc. I am just trying to avoid the 3-4 hours of time it takes to get it on the HDD. The initial analyse takes 3-5 minutes. I choose what I want to keep, click on backup, then the analyse kicks in again for 1-2 hours, then the encoding for another 1-2 hours then the burn which takes about 15 minutes. Does this sound right? From all that I have read, it seems excessive. So...I went to look for the "perform deep analysis" which I thought was surely the problem, but here I am, can't find it. Thanks in advance for your help.
     
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    I still use DVD shrink 3.05 beta for alot of back-ups. It is less complicated for the beginner. It does give you the option of performing "deep analysis" when you go to "back-up". You do want to perform "Deep Analysis" whenever you are going to have to compress the movie down to where it will fit onto a DVD 5 disc.

    Playing around, you can figure out the DVD Shrink options and what works for you and your computer. Keep in mind that shrink 3.1.7 also let's you run it at a lower priority so that you can multi task. In other words, use your computer for everything else while you are using it to back-up your DVD.

    1-2 hours for analyisis and the same for encoding is way too long. Perhaps changing settings for the hardware are in order. Also, how the hardware is connected to the MB could be contributing to the slow speed.

    Let's look at hardware configurations also.

    What do you think Flip?

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    Not sure if this is a factor -- but do you have an external burner with a USB 1.1 connection? When I had that set-up, encoding would take 2-3 hours and burning nearly that. When I upgraded to USB 2.0 it cut both encoding & burning times drastically.

    Although -- you say it only takes 15 minutes to burn so this probably isn't it.

    Very weird ... sorry I can't be more help.
     
  7. kbm

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    In DVD-Shrink After you choose Open Disc, and then Back Up, the backup window will appear. Click the backup options tab in the back window. Make sure Preform Deep Analysis Before Backup To Improve Quality is unchecked.
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    I'm all ears guys. I agree, it is taking way too long to do my backup's. What can I do with the hardware issue. Maybe this will help, but I don't think so. I am using an external Maxtor 40 gig hdd for the backup, NOT the main drive of the computer as there isn't enough space. Would this USB 2.0 connection be the issue? Another reason I don't use the main HDD of the computer isn't just because I only have 11 gig's available, but also because the main HDD is a FAT32 vs. NTFS which the external does have. Does this shed some new light for the dog backup's that I have been experiencing?
     
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    You're connection will certainly make a huge difference on your transfer rate, also You have to have NTFS to handle the large files, so u should be alright there. I do all my video work on an external 80G HD, USB 2.0-60MB/S, USB 1.0-1.5MB/S.
     
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    Buik is right... Did and edit..

    Hrdbawl, you need to click "backup!", third tab.
     
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    I finally got it! I couldn't figure out how to turn the "deep analysis" off as I thought it had to be done "prior" to the actual backup. In fact, Buik tried to tell me it was durning the "backup" stage that there are other options for the backup and that is where I found the check box. Now my analyse is 5 minutes, my encoding is about 1 1/2 hours and due to having unchecked the "deep analysis" box, it goes right to a burn which takes all of 15 minutes. Wow! What a difference. Hope someone can learn from this one. BIG DIFFERENCE!

    P.s. By the way, I just got the Ritek Branded G04 DVD-R 4x disks and have backed up 6 movies and 1 game and they all came out perfect! I am definitely a Ritek fan. Amazing how many different errors and issues come up with media that doesn't fly. Without this forum, there is no way in hell one would know this was the reason. Thanks everyone that participated. I will now look out for people that have some of the same issues as me so I can help contribute too, you know, put in what I got out!
     
  12. Buik

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    hrdbawl

    Glad we were able to help you. And, yes, if you visit often enough you too can help someone.

    I will say, "Use Deep Analysis" when ever you have to compress your back up file. Using that feature should give you better video output.

    Next, do not be afraid to back-up only the main movie file(s). Hate having to click on functions & features when you just want to watch the carnsarned movie? Use the re-author mode. You can also edit out frames from the begging of the movie and all the credits at the end. It all helps give you the best video that can be burned onto a DVD 5 disc.

     
  13. Buik

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    Hey, has anyone noticed that the gods up on Mount Olympus have let us mortals sort this out?

    Not to be taken offensive, please.
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    Is it possible that you are just seeing it 2x in the preview when it reads though the full screen and wide screen version of the movie?
     
  15. michigan

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    I don't know about the "Gods" but I answered the question on the first page 4th post.
     
  16. bigorange

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    Hey michigan, does that mean I answered it in the 3rd post? heh,heh
     
  17. michigan

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    Yep thats right. So we must not be the "Gods" eh?
     
  18. flip218

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    It had nothing to do with "deep analysis". In shrink whether you use deep analysis or not... Shrink will analyize twice(once upon opening the disc, and again before encoding). ms_twana mistakened the second analysis for encoding.
     

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