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NAGRA 3 Rollout In Ireland - Channels Affected So Far

Discussion in 'Digital TV - UK & Europe' started by Evastar, Mar 16, 2009.

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  1. mgb17

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    The linux boxes would need only 2 keys for N2. A 64 byte one and a 16 byte one.
     
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  2. fergusrb

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    LOL someone better tell SATMAN this as he is pulling his hair out right now

    and if there coders cannot get it right for itgate what does that tell ya
     
  3. alfredous

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    In reply to Fergusb: thanks for the clarification of the law (as it is written).

    This may sound more than a little defensive but...

    the "ex-schoolteacher" who was recently prosecuted fell foul of the law, not because he sold said boxes, but because he equipped boxes with the data necessary to decode information which is protected under various laws protecting intellectual property and performance rights.

    If you note the date (1990) of the quoted act, it would have been outmoded at the time it was written (as are most laws, but particularly in relation to ICT).

    There is too much money at stake. Money buys ingenuity in the interpretation of law. If the large corporations could not strangle the distribution of these machines at birth, never mind intimidate individual owners in a very public way, you can be guaranteed that you are not currently at risk and - as was the case with that famous music-sharing facility - when the assault comes, it will be loud, clear, and very public.

    When I become aware of a solitary citizen being convicted for possession of a device such as those we (presumably, on this forum) are familiar with, then I will accede that my (our) possession of such a device is somehow in contravention of the law and that I (we) am engaging in an illegal practice by virtue of my possessing such a device.

    Me, personally, I only use this device because it gives a much better picture (via the Digital Kaos image) than the standard NThell box!
     
  4. fergusrb

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    there is an amendment to that act but i just cant put my finger on it now

    ido know it is a new section they have put in section 7 was amended to stop all boxes from been plugged into any cable feed
     
  5. mgb17

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    There is nothing to code to solve the N2 problem at linux boxes. The right keys from a cracked card are needed. The linux emus are able to handle N2.
     
  6. alfredous

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    Seriously, I wasn't being smart with the repeat performance - I reckon it's time for bed!
     
  7. fergusrb

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    not a bother mate no offense taken
     
  8. magling

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    Noticed before channels started to dissapear ntl broadband was also gone for a while in Waterford.
     
  9. ciskz

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    Fergusrb is your whole objective just to make people believe linux boxes are crap.

    People did say they would be the best way to go but that was only as there are already N2EMUs ect available.

    And as MGB17 said all thats needed is the keysets form a N2 card, the problem is locating one and dumping it REVA05 only, Which is hard as the satman is in the UK ect.

    Dreambox is german, dbox is 3nd german cable equipment.
    But at least if one linux box get a fix they all get a fix.

    The Kryptview is a bit of an exception as ive said before you tried to dismiss it, Kryptview have an active team working and supporting there box currently and this is why they have they N2 keysets and are keeping them.

    I very much doubt we will see starview, eurovox N2 fixes, at least not before the linux ones are up and running.
     
  10. fergusrb

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    i never said linux was crap all i did say is that people believe that the linux boxes are the be end of all boxes that has now been proven that there not thats all im trying to say


    correct i agree with you on that one

    but they could if the powers to be wanted them to be fixed ;)
     
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  11. ciskz

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    True but unfortunately the main man behind all the recent starview, eurovox fixes has left the game.

    But you never know.
     
  12. fergusrb

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    yes i am aware of that all right but never under estimate people gone today does not mean gone forever
     
  13. Inquitus

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    So cryptview has eeked a few extra months out of the temp N2 streams pending the full upgrade to N3, it's still in all likelyhood a doorstop until N3 is cracked if not forever. I certainly wouldnt buy one at this juncture when paying for subs would in all likelyhood work out cheaper than buying the box for just a few months use.
     
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    i know that other box gives ya an extra few months but is it really worth it? surely we can survive without one until somebody sorts out n3
     
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    fact or bull??
     
  16. EDCA5E

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    re:N2 just needing keys - either for linux or otherwise, whilst this is the case at the moment the game could change very rapidly.
    You would be amazed at what they could do to beef up security.

    I have no doubt that the linux people will obtain the operational keys from an A05 but this wont last long you will really see who knows what if the keys start rolling!
     
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    Am I getting this right. In the past I flashed a new image or keys or whatever I was advised to do onto my DBox2 and all was solved. Many thanks to all of those who have the knowledge to do this kind of thing by the way. So in the situation we now face someone who has a Dbox must also be subscribing, get a n2 physical card from for example NT*&*, break it and then send the solution out to the rest of us novices. Well hats off.

    I'm just hoping that teh main Dbox problem solvers haven't moved on to Kryptview. While I have figured out how to type on a computer it took me ten years to figure out how to turn it on in the first place. I am very dependent on the skills and generosity of you all. Many of the senior guys deserve a big Clap on teh back. Thanks again.
     
  18. ciskz

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    Apparently the N2 keys have never rolled, at least not in a long while, but if they get news that the boxes have a hold of em im sure they will start rolling.
     
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  19. joeywalsh

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    in dub most sports channels,po*n channels and music channels gone.Also if any one has any broken boxes for s**e could ya let us know as i need panel.thanks
     
  20. gleneasto

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    all my channels are gone in leixlip any suggestions out there pls missing them already
     
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