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NAGRA 3 Rollout In Ireland - Channels Affected So Far

Discussion in 'Digital TV - UK & Europe' started by Evastar, Mar 16, 2009.

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  1. EDCA5E

    EDCA5E Member

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    I seriously doubt the people behind the KV box will release this information.

    Choices are:
    Hack an N2 card and dump the keys.
    Disassemble KV firmware.

    edc
     
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    Eva, dont think thats the case as Setant* Ireland is still available.
     
  3. teveth

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    As far as i know setanta ireland is a free to air channel while setanta 1 and 2 are both subscription channels. So it may be a case that upc have not paid for their subscription channels , Is setanta golf gone as well?
     
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    all setanta channels still working on chorus mmds in ireland
     
  5. MrTrebus

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    there is PLENTY of information about cardsharing available.
    google is a fantastic tool !!!

    what a lot of people dont realise is that you have to provide your OWN legal card BEFORE you can join a card share group.
    So, the question remains then, is it worth joining a cardshare group if all you have is a sly card, for example, and no motorised dish ???
    you wont get anything extra from it without the motorised dish and you are already paying for your own subscription !

    as for the current situation, I'd suggest people sit back and relax and stop panicking about it for now.
    We still have most of the channels and you can be certain sure that somewhere someone is working hard on a "crack" !!!!
     
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    also reading on the kryptview threads,the latest fix is bringing in all channels, so i dont think its about upc not paying their subscription to setanta
     
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    As i said, it was just something i was told, that's why i was asking did anyone know for sure either way.
     
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    Is this the truth?Would be great if it was, playboy,the adult channel etc are still workign on ntl mmds so maybe there is a bit of truth to this. I cant see a big compnay like UPC not been able to pay setanta though.
     
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    This is not true, why do you think there is a fix out on kryptview and anyone actually paying for setanta/adult/etc has received new card and are receiving channels
     
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    When do we think that a fix similar to the one for krytpview will be out for replay lite,eurovox etc.?

    Im thinking that it may take them a further 3/4 months to switch off the N2 nad N3 streams,so if someone comes up with a fix it may last us a bit longer.
     
  11. fergusrb

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    Hi Eve

    that is totally untrue all them channels that have been transferred to n2/n3 are all working 100% on the Kryptview box

    as for other makers making a fix well all i can say if the LINUX boxes dont have a fix yet i would not hold my breath for the other boxes for a while to come

    I am really surprised that the open scourse of the KING of boxes dont have nothing as yet in place for their boxes its a bit of a joke really saying they will be the only boxes to survive a n2/n3 hit just goes to prove them wrong when a cable box is first up best dressed in this case and of course the DEC hit as well

    What i will say is that the Kryptview Box is prob one of the best supported boxes out there now out of any of them as you can see first for the fixes first on the last two occasions
     
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    Its absolutely pointless people posting "when will there be a fix out[/]"
    it will be here when its here and not before hand.
    just be patient and wait for it.
    there is/will already be someone working on it right now !!

    its not like EVERY channel is gone already !!
     
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    here here we just have to wait and see
     
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    The linux boxes are easier to implement a fix, if the kryptview was open source we could all have the fix.

    But people would rather get paid by kryptview and implement on a exclusive basis.

     
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    Can confirm that all the channels listed above are gone along with Setanta Sp 1 & 2 in Galway.

    The blighters.....they cannot beat us this way....heard there might be new codes on the way for Nagra 3...

    Will let know if i get.
     
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    Thats not the case, when is the last time anyone saw the sourcecode for a cam from a linux box?

    When the keyrolls changed in the UK to defeat the emulators, the linux boxes where knocked off just as any closed source boxes and without any cam sourcecode it was impossible to fix in the correct manner.
    Users of these boxes were VERY lucky that a few coders that actually understood the implementation of the N1 system where able to patch the rom bin files in such a way that allows the linux boxes to continue working at all!

    The actual softcam in linux and non-linux boxes are both closed source, the linux boxes do allow cosmetic changes and some extra functionality - but whatever box you have you are ultimately relying on someone else to fix it (unless you know how to do it yourself).

     
  18. yvry

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    This is not true the source of mgcamd was publish long time ago, and you can find it any where on the net, the only thing that it will be no fix for nagra 3, there is not a known hacker that is capable of resolving the logarithmic functions of the nagra 3 and there subcomponetns of protection. there are encrypted and therefore the first step will be to descrypte the first encryption (the antihack) and then the actualy algorhytme of the code that it send it nagra 3, there is not even sure that the actually provider id given by nagra 3 is actually the right provider or just also encrypte, also the caid are changing constant so if you want to contribute to the nagra source start log the nagra codes and read a lot off in stead of acussing that everything is close, the source are there, the log you can create, but your head is what you need to resolve this.
     
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    the way i see it if ntl add a new encription without changing any of their boxes , then the dbox can still be used craic the signal down the line ... the end of the dbox and the like will be the day ntl start issuing their customers with new subscription boxes me thinks...
     
  20. EDCA5E

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    If what you say regarding the cam source is true then why did nobody fix their emulators in this way when the UK keyroll changed to one that tested the attributes of special function registers?
    The answer is either:
    1) They couldnt obtain the cam source
    2) They didnt understand the nagra system and how the keyroll worked
    3) They didnt have the knowledge to edit the source

    Whatever way they still relied on someone else fixing it (therefore defeating the object of having a supposedly open source box rather than a closed source one).

    Dont get me wrong I am not criticising the linux boxes they are very nice pieces of hardware im just stating that when it comes to the crunch they have no advantage whatsoever over a closed source box.


    As for N2/N3.. until a few days ago people thought that the N2 system in Ireland was secure.
    What I do know is this - if everyone just sits around waiting for a fix nothing will ever happen - people need to understand how these CA systems work and get stuck in!

    Who knows what the future holds.

    edc
     
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