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my coolsat 6000 was acting up early this week...thought BIN 170 was down,,its doing the same thing again,,,is anyone else getting SCRAMBLE CHANNEL,,,or did the bin give up the ghost

 

bin 170 is not working.but you put keys manually.get keys from tvkeyz.com it will work.

 

CoolSat 5000 doing the same thing....be sure to turn off autoroll!!!

 

thank you guys for the help,,have a SAFE EASTER WEEKEND,,,

 

i read somewhere auto roll is working now,so turn autoroll on and try,

 

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,,,working fine again ,,,thanx again

 

Hey Breck/Jerry,

I need help for the switch which is compatabile for the dish network's receiver and also the coolsat 6000. I have tried the radioshack Satellite Passive Multi-Switch Model: 16-2571
but it did not work for me. Can you please help me so I can hook up both receiver at the same time and get all the channels? I would really appreciate your help on this.....

Thanks

 

Use DiSEqc switches, if you have dual output lnbs you can get 4 sats to 2 receivers

 

Coolsat switch is compatable.
A lot of people suggest the Chieta Heavy Duty.

Some available at xxx.stuffupforgrab.com - shipped anywhere.

 

hi,
i think bin 170 is done for cs 6000

 

i do believe you are right

 

Yep - waiting for new updates.
Had to figure it was time.
Wrestlemania is on Sunday.

 

they timed it just for that,,ironic i have tickets,,im 23 miles from ORLANDO FL.got some FREE tickets compliments of,,,my job,,I believe i would rather watch at home,,lot B.S. going to those things traffic, beer, crowds, beer, high prices on mixers ,,i mean refreshments, beer,LOL you guys have a good weekend,,has anyone turned of aoutoroll to load keys manually ,,

 

Its ECM in pid 107, new bin required.

 

i heard new updates are out for cs6000

 

Hey Blnkstare,

I need the DiscEsq switch 4x2 with two output to the two different receivers....i looked the stuffupforgrab site for that but all i could find is that Cheita havey duty 4x1...can you help me to get 4x2 somewhere...

Thanks

 

I checked but all I could find are 3x8 multiswitches. Not sure if it's the same as a diseqc switch.

Can't find a 4x2. Don't think they exist. You should be using 2 4x1 switches for each receiver. Your lnb's should have 2 hookups for to receivers. If not you may want to upgrade.

Unless someone else knows better.

 

Thats correct there are no FTA 4x2 switches but you have options. you can get a 3x8 multiswitch but they are expensive to buy and replace. If your lnbs have dual output you can take Brecks suggestion which is the cheapest and hook up each output to a DiSEqC switch and you can up to 4 sats to 2 receivers.

There are sw42 switches which are 4x2 switches but unless your using DP or DPP they wont work.

c/p

What are switches for?
There are two reasons to use multiswitches.

To combine the signals from one or more LNBs aimed at different satellites (like on a Dish 500) to feed a receiver. Each satellite operates at the same frequency range, so the signals can't be combined, they must be switched.
To feed more than two receivers. To change channels, the receiver supplies a voltage to the LNB changing its polarization depending on the transponder the channel is on. Additional receivers can't be fed via simple splitters because the LNB's polarization may be switched when another receiver changes channels.
What's the difference in all these switches?
There are six different switches is general use:

SW21 connects 2 single LNBs to one receiver.
Two SW21s can be used to connect 2 dual LNBs to two receivers.
An SW21 allows receivers that support cascading to see an extra orbital slot when used in combination with a Twin, Quad, SW42, SW44 or SW64.
Cascading an SW21 to another SW21 is not allowed.


SW42 is exactly equivalent to two SW21s except that it uses different switching codes. See note below on cascading.


SW44 connects 2 dual LNBs to (up to) four receivers. The receiver may identify it as an SW42 as mentioned in the manual. Except for the missing third LNB inputs, it is similar in operation to the SW64. See note below for more info.


SW64 connects 2 or 3 dual LNBs to (up to) four receivers and is a "powered" switch. The power is supplied via an inserter, which can be placed indoors, near one of the receivers. It is inserted in the RG-6 coax line coming from the SW64 output port #1 (The one labeled "To Power Inserter"). The inserter must be inserted in the correct direction to prevent damage to the receiver. Follow directions and labels carefully, even a "pro" can make a mistake here. See: Stupid Installer Tricks.


Twin LNB has 2 LNBFs and integrated switches in a wide housing, outputs for only 2 receivers. No external switches are needed for viewing 110 and 119.
01/15/00 Since this item was originally posted, Dish apparently has started to ramp up receiver software support for the new "Twin" LNB.


Quad LNB is similar to the Twin but has 4 outputs.
I have a Twin LNB, how can I expand to more than two receivers?
Tough question, you'll have to get rid of your Twin LNB, since it cannot ever feed more than two tuners, and can't be connected to a SW44 or SW64 to provide more outputs. Dish has a Quad LNB which will provide signals to four tuners, or you can replace your Twin with a pair of Duals and get an SW44 or SW64.

If I upgrade to the 500 can't I use the one that comes with it?
Of course you can, but if you're planning to add more receivers, or another dish to see the 61.5W satellite, you might want to upgrade to the SW64 now, and avoid replacing your existing switches later.

Why do you need dual LNBs to use the SW64 and SW44 with only one receiver?
Because the SW64 and SW44 "hardwire" the polarization for half the dual LNB to right hand, and left hand for the other half. The switch then selects between the two LNBs internally to select whichever polarization is required for the desired transponder. Normally, in a single LNB single receiver setup, the receiver supplies a voltage to the LNB which changes the polarization of the LNB depending on the transponder.

With (as few as) two dual LNBs, you can feed (up to) four receivers using an SW64. Without this permanent polarization, this would not be possible.

This also applies to the new SW44 since it is also a powered switch.

I have 2 receivers. If I get the SW64 will the installer put it in for me?
Yes, but he might want some more money to do it.

Are there any cable length issues I need to consider?
Yes, Echostar's document shows the allowable lengths for the SW21, and SW42. See: Recommended maximum cable lengths for use with SW21 and SW42 switches

Where can I find additional documents to help me set up my Echostar system?
Dish TechPortal Legacy Page
DISH Network -- User Guides & Manuals
How do switches work, and what is the problem with cascading switches?
Current Echostar switches apparently use a pulse train to select different inputs, and this is controlled by the receiver software. While it may not always be possible to cascade switches, in certain cases it may in fact work.

Since Dish network continues to upgrade receiver software, the only way to know for sure if cascaded switches will work in your installation is to try it.

06/22/00
Recent discoveries have now made it possible to cascade certain Dish Network switches for coverage of an additional orbital slot. So far, the only combination that has been proved to work is the SW42 / SW21 combination.
The SW42 is used to combine the LNB signals from a Dish 500, and the SW21s are cascaded from the SW42 outputs to allow the signals from a third dish's LNBs to be combined. See: "http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/switchinfo/" (dead link) for a wiring diagram and more info. This technique will work only on Dish Network receivers which support 34 switch checks. This leaves out the 2000, 1000, 3000, and 4000, sorry. This combo seriously stresses the cable length, and total LNB power cabability of the receiver. It is not recommended, but has been reported to work. A few folks have reported problems using the SW42/SW21 cascade with the 5000, and D-VHS owners may also have problems since the D-VHS is based on the 5000 main board.

8/31/00
Dish has started to update receiver software in some receivers to 38 switch checks. Tests indicate that these receivers now support cascading on the SW44.

One of our contributors writes:
"The manual is cheaply printed, with a lot of ink bleedthrough from adjacent pages....but they should be readable...

The SW44 is quite a bit smaller than the SW64, just a little bigger than a SW42. It has large cooling fins cast into the housing, and an arrow to indicate the proper installed position. With the switch mounted, the inputs are on the right and the outputs are on the left. The heat sink fins are in a vertical orientation on the front of the switch.

This past Tuesday I noticed that 2700s are beginning to show 38-step switch checks, and I assume this is to support SW44 cascading."

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hey guys any news on the new CS bin file