Cheers for all the help people but ive sorted it now.It wasnt anything you advised afterall although it took your advice for me to find the fault,i just installed a copy of a dodgy update that was in there and it was solved,Thanx again.
Missing files, i dont know what but i noticed certain menu functions missing,trivial stuff like menu and button templates and as a final straw updated nerovision3 and up we went!Thanx anyway mate your time and effort is appreciated.