creaky- I agree 100%. I'm also glad I build my own machines. That insures that I will never have that OS. Of course maybe in a year or two after all of the updates it may be okay, but I'm probably going to switch to Linux before that time comes! Side note: About the burners. I have a lite-on that Nero does not recognize. I've not been able to figure it out. It is an internal drive with the latest firmware update. My other drive works, but if I want to burn with the Lite-On then I have to use ImgBurn. It's kinda weird. I'm in the process of putting a new server together and I think I'm going to put the Lite-On in the server. Maybe after I install Nero it will recognize it. I'll let you know. The only thing that I can think of is that the 6.6.0.18 was on the machine before the Lite-On. That really shouldn't matter, but I don't want to remove Nero and re-install when the drive is not going to stay in this machine anyway! TTYL!