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NERO turns the VCD picture upside-down!?

Discussion in 'MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 encoding (AVI to DVD)' started by Bonusbent, Feb 3, 2003.

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  1. robwau

    robwau Member

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    Paul,

    Everywhere I look I see youre 'friendly' messages to all te newbies who try to convert with Nero. You seem to think we're all acting very stupid. But the thing is. Your solutions aren't solutions at all. When I try to run tmpgenc it won't work in the first place. I've downloaded an older version. This one works, but after converting Nero still doesn't burn this file correctly.
     
    robwau, Feb 9, 2003
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  2. loaded

    loaded Moderator Staff Member

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    No, that's wrong, I don't think you are 'acting'

    Here is the thing. Regardless of the size of your avi file, Robwau, the LENGTH of the movie is what is important. If this movie plays for more than 75 minutes, you will almost certainly have to split it into two discs when you make a VCD. This is because the size of a VCD is proportional to the length of the movie you record, regardless of its quality, I hope this makes sense. This problem will be exacerbated by the use of SVCD (which I don't recommend anyway, as most avis when converted might as well be straight into VCD for all I care) as SVCD will only fit about 35-40 minutes on a standard CD. This is why your file is 3GB, which does sound about right for a long movie, maybe 4 discs worth!

    THIS YOU CANNOT CHANGE IN VCD. SVCDs can be made to fit upto 74 minutes on a CD by lowering the bitrate, but the only reason for doing this (as it reduces quality) would be for subtitle selection and other features that VCD does not have.

    With regards to Nero, we love that software here, but they put in a wizard and an encoder to make the software 'newbie' friendly. This causes more problems than it solves, as the encoder is pretty poor in quality and leads to problems, like the inverted video.

    Summary:

    I recommend the conversion of a avi into VCD if you do not have a DVD burner, as the VCD is compatible with most things, including most standalones. I recommend you do this with TMPGEnc and use Nero to burn. I also assure you that you will need 2 discs, possibly three if the movie if longer than 150 minutes.

    Good luck and keep me posted on the results.

    Paul.
     
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    loaded, Feb 10, 2003
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  3. absoftab

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    There is a plugin called Kolby to fit 90 min or more on 1 CD. Don't no were to find it.

    The upside down prob can be fixed with a special codec. I don't know which one, but when I installed ACE Mega CoDecS Pack v5.00 (ace.subpage.net) that prob was gone!
     
    absoftab, Feb 20, 2003
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  4. darthjimm

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    You want to watch the movie on your tv...get a video-output card, you can watch it on your tv, and record it to VHS...its a much simpler problem and you don't have to mess with converting or burning.
     
    darthjimm, Mar 1, 2003
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  5. Taurolyon

    Taurolyon Guest

    YUCK! convert to an analog magnetic tape!?!? Why, when it will be junk in less than 10 years?!
     
    Taurolyon, Mar 1, 2003
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  6. Rodgers

    Rodgers Guest

    Good idea for an alternative I think, then you could take the loser magnetic tape and transfer it to an optical disc for a real reproduction eh?

    Best to All,
    Rocgers
     
    Rodgers, Mar 2, 2003
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  7. Rodgers

    Rodgers Guest

    Good idea for an alternative I think, then you could take the loser magnetic tape and transfer it to an optical disc for a real reproduction eh?

    Best to All,
    Rocgers
     
    Rodgers, Mar 2, 2003
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  8. Taurolyon

    Taurolyon Guest

    Is there an echo?

    But you'll lose some quality in the recording and the playback/recapture.
     
    Taurolyon, Mar 2, 2003
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  9. isepiq

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    Get the Nimo Codec Pack. Install the G400 Codec. Play the movie. While it is playing the G400 will show up on your taskbar. Open its settings panel and tell it to invert output. Exit. Now go and burn it with Nero and it will be correct. No problem, no hassle, no Tempgenc, no no no. Do Not forget to run a video again and change the G400 setting back to normal after you are done. This is why I put all my movies on CD-RW disk, eh. It works great and is EASY.
     
    isepiq, Mar 7, 2003
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  10. Rodgers

    Rodgers Guest

    Isepiq,

    Fine job and thanks for a real answer. Earlier someone said to remove the NIMO Codec Pack. I guess the G400 Codec that you refer to is the right track. Thanks for your explanation.

    Rodgers
     
    Rodgers, Mar 7, 2003
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  11. adder50

    adder50 Guest

    to help a newbe have uninstalled codecs reinstalled with just g400 codec
    now what prgram do i play movie with to be able to make changes and how do i make changes
    please
    am currently using wm9 and powerdvd for xp
    the player wont work for some reason
    any help will be great
    thanks
     
    adder50, Mar 19, 2003
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  12. kiddkoala

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    Got it sorted, install the XVid Codec from here http://www.divx-digest.com/software/xvid.html and there is a little program called AviC (FourCC Changer). Open the Xvid .avi file in this and change the 2 settings to Divx and burn in Nero, all the right way round, happy shopper!!!!

    Thank you and goodnight.

    Damo
     
    kiddkoala, Mar 21, 2003
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  13. adder50

    adder50 Guest

    many thanks to kiddkoala worked great and also helped me to help a mate who was having some probs

    thanks again
     
    adder50, Mar 23, 2003
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  14. spanks167

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    I dont want to repeat the past , but i have had this problem with mainly xvid coded movies.I also have the latest nero burner and plug-ins installed. I have tried Tpmc and still had problems.Since the last post has anyone come across a better software to use for such things ? Thanks for your help ...
     
    spanks167, Mar 25, 2003
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  15. Gumbie

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    This happened to me once, It was from the elecard mpg2 codec I installed. I un-installed it then just use my windvd player to play all vcd/svcd/dvd's now and have never had a nero encoded file upside down since.
     
    Gumbie, Mar 26, 2003
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  16. ReDeemer

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    I'm having a problem with TMPGenc. I'downloaded the trail version and succesfully converted various avi's to vcd. Now I've downloaded a couple of movies but TMPGenc does not recognise the audio threat. At first my mediaplayer would not play music on the movie either yet after downloading a update from nimo it did play sound. Is there an update available somewhere for TMPGenc that corrects this problem. (Nero produces an upside down image WITH sound)
     
    ReDeemer, Apr 1, 2003
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  17. djxedxd

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    ok i got the whole upside down thing corrected myself but some files i cant encode with tmpeg like the one cartoon file its a video clip and one movie thats a video clip is there a way to encode this type of file with tmpeg anyway . nero puts both of these upside down
     
    djxedxd, Apr 14, 2003
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  18. Shpongled

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    Alrighty, if I may just join the club of people with upside down VCDs. Mine happens to be the XviD code of Die Another Day, and like everyone else here, Nero does a very nice job, except for the little business of upside down video. Oh yes, and no audio (though the AC3 codec for the original AVI is working properly during computer playback.) Now I've been using TMPGEnc as long as I've been using Nero, but it doesn't recognize the audio track for this AVI for some reson, so it's usless for this one. Any ideas now?
     
    Shpongled, Apr 24, 2003
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  19. loaded

    loaded Moderator Staff Member

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    TMPGEnc should be able to read Xvids as well, you should have the reader already, if not, visit the homepage. You will need to adjust the priority settings in Environmental settings to get it to read the Xvid, then you should be able to convert the file into a VCD.

    Paul.

    PS : You must be missing the audio codec, you can download a piece of software called Gspot, which will tell you what you need and hopefully where to get it. Links for Pegasys (TMGGEnc) and GSPOT download are on this website.
     
    loaded, Apr 25, 2003
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  20. Shpongled

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    No, I know the audio codec is in, I used Avicodec to check that.
     
    Shpongled, Apr 25, 2003
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