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Nero8 Burning ROM doesn't work with DVD Shrink

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by PacMan777, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. PacMan777

    PacMan777 Regular member

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    I hope the mods don't get angry with me for double posting, but this effects both the Shrink and Nero forums. The title says it all. Automatic burning with Nero8 as a supported burner in DVD Shrink will not work until repaired, at least not the version supporting ImgBurn. The problem is the Video_TS folder isn't written into the output going to the DVD. Open the DVD and all you get are the BUP, IFO, and VOB files. The files play fine on my PC playback software. However, without the Video_TS folder, most standalone players won't open the recorded DVD because of the incorrect DVD structure. Burning the output manually using Nero Express from the Nero8 suite works. So, you're not left without burner ware. You have to save Shrink output and burn manually though.

    Update: After using the clean tool and reinstalling Nero 8 the Video_TS folder showed up the way it's supposed to. Unfortunately DVDs burned with the Burning ROM still won't play properly. The video doesnt start right and then goes to a track and starts looping. Some people say theirs start in the middle and jump to the end. It acts like the structure has been altered. I tested with older discs with light copy protection to take copy protection out of the variables as much as possible. Shrink handled them easily when using the Nero 7 burning ROM. Changing to Nero 8 and leaving everthing else the same, the discs came out flawed when auto burning with the Burning ROM. The problem discs won't play on my standalone players but will on my PC. Some people say even the PC playback fails.
     
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  2. BigDadE

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    I have the trial version of Nero8(b) and I'm having the same problem. Do you have any suggestions on helping me fix the problem? The bundle comes with "Nero Home" and "Nero Smart Start". Thx
     
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    revert back to nero 7 BigDadE
     
  4. PacMan777

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    You can still record the output to the hard drive and burn manually with Nero Express while waiting for the problem to be resolved, if ever. The other options are to revert to an older Nero version or another supported burner.

    I went back and reloaded 7 and then 8 again and still the same problems with the Burning ROM with Shrink. The second time with 8 I got the Video_TS folder, but the play in a standalone was still bad. Playback on a PC is okay, but the errors occur with standalone players. So members shouldn't assume there's no problem until having checked the burned DVDs on a standalone player.
     
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    Right on. Do you guys know a reliable site to buy Nero6 or Nero7 online or a Comp store. Thx.
     
  6. PacMan777

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    The cheapest is usually the variety stores like Wal Mart, if you're lucky enough to find a copy on hand. There's a download from the Nero site. I don't think they're selling the older versions though.
     
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    I have an older version of Nero 4 & it works great. I can generate chapters,have animation in the backround etc.. It like it cuz its user friendly.My problem is that I am trying to burn this movie and the format its in says LPCM. Tried to convert with convertX to DVD & AVS video converter.Problem with these is that I have to burn them once they're converted because even after its done converting it, NERO won't take it.I just need to be able to make a menu with this movie file with NERO so I can be able to have my menu and so forth.
     
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    The early Nero 6 had problems with XP compatibility. Nero 4 might work for simple burns, but I wonder about overall compatibility of the programs with later operating systems. Did Nero 4 support burning DVDs? I never had a version that old. Also, a lot has been added. I've owned Nero 6 and 7 and now 8. I reinstalled 7 until 8 gets some more of the bugs worked out. I don't need the Blu Ray and HD support yet.
     
  9. aegashira

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    PLEASE HELP ME!!! i'm trying to copy a dvd, and i'm using mediafork to rip it. then when i try to burn it (using toast), it says that the dvd is too small (4.9gb needed, only 4.4 available). what can i do?
    PLEASE HELP ME!!
     
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    @aegashira
    Wrong thread. Sounds like you have a Mac. Post your query in the Mac forums.
    Oh and welcome to aD!
     
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    oops. PLEASE E-MAIL ME A REPONSE AT: nomemailsallowed@theblackhole.com
     
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    Hi... i have nero 6 and just within the past 2 days i have had a problem burning with dvd shrink..this is the entire error message that pops up:
    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 5/28/2003 6:53:46 PM
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 12:35:32 PM
    Nero API version: 6.6.0.8
    Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
    Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
    Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D>Version: 1.08 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2000kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 E: CDRom0
    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D D: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 254MB (261100kB)
    Free physical memory: 86MB (88576kB)
    Memory in use : 66 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    15.11.2007
    NeroAPI
    9:01:32 AM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    9:01:32 AM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    9:01:32 AM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files sorted

    9:01:34 AM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    9:01:34 AM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D running

    9:01:34 AM #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
    DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
    DRM: Beginning burn process.

    9:01:34 AM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    9:01:34 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    9:01:34 AM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    9:02:11 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)

    9:02:11 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 271
    Write in overburning mode: NO

    9:02:12 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
    Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D, Media type: DVD+R
    Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
    Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7

    9:02:12 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 433
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL.)

    9:02:12 AM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    9:02:12 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
    Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    9:02:12 AM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files started

    9:02:12 AM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
    Cache writing successful.

    9:02:12 AM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files completed

    9:02:12 AM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    9:02:12 AM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    9:02:12 AM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8442
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 7 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC.MAG.
    Media type ID: M01
    Product revision number: 0
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D - 41 47 00 4D 30 31 00 38 ...CMC.MAG.M01.8
    23 54 37 18 00 3E 6E 00 - 70 62 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..>n.pb......
    01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    9:02:12 AM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 638
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    9:02:14 AM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
    09:02:14.390 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    9:02:48 AM #24 SCSI -1106 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x014A0000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x73
    Sense Qual: 0x03
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0E
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x73 0x03

    9:02:48 AM #25 CDR -1106 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Power calibration error

    9:02:48 AM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    9:02:48 AM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    9:02:49 AM #28 Phase 127 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Generating DVD high compatibility borders

    9:02:49 AM #29 Phase 129 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Generating DVD borders completed successfully

    9:02:49 AM #30 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    9:02:49 AM #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
    DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

    9:02:49 AM #32 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
    DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 9/3/2002 11:26:59 AM
    File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=5.2.0.91, size=23724 bytes, created 12/13/2002 12:11:28 AM
    File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 5/28/2003 6:53:46 PM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.42a, size=17184 bytes, created 10/21/2002 9:33:40 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  14. PacMan777

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    @amitx
    Just curious, you say you had a problem with Shrink. If you told us what it was, we'd have a better idea of what to look for in the log, though there are some obvious items to address. I saw 2 problems right off. You're using CMC Mag media (you're getting a media error), and your DVD ROM is stuck in DMA OFF (if available it should be on). Get good media and turn the DMA on.

    By the way, you're highjacking the thread on Nero 8 for a personal help problem with Nero 6. You could have started a separate help thread.
     
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    thank you for the reply...this is why i am a newbie....i dont know if it is nero or dvd shrink..i reinstalled both...do you have any recommendations on media to use and how do i turn the dma on. after this i wion't hijack the thread anymore. Thanks
     
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    You have 3 basic stages to doing a DVD5 backup.
    1) Decryption (bypassing copy protection) I'd suggest DVDFab HD Decrypter since it's good and free. http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm
    Version 4.0.1.2 is currently available. Shrink decryption software is obsolete.

    2)Transcode (shrink to fit DVD5)

    3)Burn That's when Shrink turns on Nero (or another supported burner) to record the output to DVD. At this point Shrink is done and the final phase rests with the burning process. Knowing at which stage the process failed tells us what we can exclude or include. Since you got a log, we'll assume Shrink completed and turned on Nero.

    Sony +R is an easy item to pick up at most retailers. Verbatim is another. Online Taiyo Yuden is available. Those are 3 of the better ones. Many members suggest steering clear of brands selling CMC if you're having problems. Any major brand made in Japan is usually good.

    You can turn on the DMA using DVDFab HD Decrypter. The function is in Common Settings, click the gear shaped icon at top right. Click General and look at the bottom of the window.
     
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    I was thinking of upgrading to Nero 8 but was wondering if Nero 8 had Nero Recode because that is the only program I use in Nero 7 and I really like it.If Nero 8 still has Recode is there any difference from Nero 7 to Nero 8? I mean quality wise and features wise. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Yes nero 8 has recode. nero 8 is more of an update for Vista. i don't have nero 8 but word is there are problems with it i would stick with nero 7 till the bugs are worked out
     
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    Other than the problem with autoburning with Shrink, I didn't see that much wrong. I tried Nero 8 for a while, but don't really need it yet. Some of the additional features need to be learned. I wonder if some of the problems encountered have been because the user didn't read the manual. Since the program of interest here is Recode, Shrink isn't a necessity. My suggestion is if you like playing with new software and playing with the bells and whistles, Nero 8 is'nt a bad choice. If all you want is Recode and don't want to play with the other toys, then save your money and keep Nero 7.
     

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