New Hard Drive Added but having problems!

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imageshack was working... what about this one?

 

theyre the same

 

blue connector at the end of the one going into the mother board (HDD 1)

 

Hi there, i've had trouble similar to this in the past, dunno if this would work for ya, but you could try installing the winxp drive to the primary ide as master and place your cdrom and win98 drive to secondary ide , leave out your dvdrom for now so you should have only 3 drives connected, in this order, winxp drive primary ide set as master, secondary ide, win98 drive set as master and your cdrom set as the slave. should this setup be detected correctly , go into your bios and change the boot sequence and boot from the cdrom, try placing your winxp cdrom in your cdrom drive and reboot , if setup correctly then you should be able to format the win98 disc, or your newer hdd if you wish.
then if that works for ya, add your dvdrom as a slave to the primary ide. you should then be able to use all 4 devices.

 

Just that one ddp...

I will have to buy new IDE cables since these are too short. Which ones do you recommend for HDD 1 and HDD 2?

My HDD 1 cable has a blue end connecting to the mother board

 

Your right ddp heh.

Can i use a 80 wire 40 pin for both HDD 1 and HDD 2 ? If so i might buy this one: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.a...11452&Type=PE&Category=Comp&Gad=0&dcaid=17379

 

alright thnx for your help. really appreciate it and sorry for not knowing that much

 

Soory about misunderstanding your problem. You should be able to boot WinXP fine as long as you can make XP your default OS.

I was thinking, doesn't connecting a HD and a DVD/CD Drive on the same IDE channel slow down your HD??? I connect both my HD to IDE Primary. I set one to master the other to slave. On my secondary IDE channel I connect my DVD-ROM as master and my DVD+RW as slave. I am bad with diagrams, but that is what it seems that your diagram was showing.

As for booting Windows XP you need to a "Quick Boot" disc. It should have the following 3 files:
NTDLR
NTDETECT.com
Boot.ini

You can try this: http://1gighost.net/ohioman/xpquick.zip

if this doesn't work go here: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

WHat you need to do is unzip the file and put them in a formatted floppy. Then set your BIOS to boot from Floppy first. Insert the floppy and restart. Your PC will bypass the normal windows boot and boot directly to Windows XP.

You can go to msconfig and look at the boot.ini to see if it is correct (it sees that you have WQindows XP installed or that it is your Default Boot). You will probably want to make it default, but wait for more responses before messing around.

 

I only have the CD-RW and DVD-/+RW connected to HDD2 and the only haddrive on HDD 1

 

Anybody disagrees with JaguarGod ?

 

Hi jBoRiCuA8,
reall don't want to confuse you further.... have you installed XP on the new hard drive? I would suggest you start from scratch. disconnect your drives and set up the new one at the end of the cable! (often the bios will make the "cable select" descision on which HD is the master instead of the jumper position but best to do both to be sure.) Then install XP on the new HD, the disk wikk format to NTFS all by itself and install. When that is done you can shudown and place the 2nd HD in the middle cable plug (making sure the plug is the right side up) and install the jumpers appropriatley as master on the XP, and slave the old one. Then start the system. During startup press the prompt for set up and make sure that the boot sequence is: 1st removable device (cd-rom) 2nd device your new HD. then select save changes and exit and it will restart. Once you restart you should boot to XP. then you should be able to format your 2nd HD as a storage device.
Good luck, it's just a step by step process. but... your CD-rom SHOULD NOT be plugged in with the same IDE cable as your hd's. what make of HD do you have? most manufacturers sites have set up programs you can download from them to set you hard drives up the way you want them.

 

I think Hogger74's advice will work. However, you should not have to do all that. I swapped Hard Drives at least 100 times these past two months. I did not have to do anything special, unless if there were two OS (one in each drive). Also reinstalling Windows XP and getting it up to date will take you at least 2 hours.

I don't understand why your Windows XP is not booting. Did you try the links I posted? The only way those files fail is if Windows is corrupted, which I know yours is not since you used to be able to boot it.

I think it is easier to just start out with both Hard Drives on the same IDE channel. Just set the Jumper to Master on the XP and Slave on the Win98. The way it will be connected is, Blue goes to the motheroard, Gray to the Slave, Black to the Master. The same goes for your CD/DVD drives on your secondary IDE Channel.

the way the wire is set up is:

=------------=------=

Motherboard /SLV / MSTR

the "=" represent the connectors and the "-" represent the wire. Notice the different distances between "=". The one that is on the left will go to the motherboard. This will be the Blue one. From there, moving right, will be the slave and the last one on the right will be the Master. You can wire your CD/DVD drives the same way to your secondary IDE Channel.

Since there is little wire between the Master and Slave, it is better to have these two close to each other. I have a rack which allows for a floppy and two hard drives to fit. You can look into something like that if you are having trouble with wire lengths. It is not good to get longer than 18" wire, because then you will start to get signal loss. Only SATA wires can be longer.

If you are planning to start over (format and reinstall WinXP), you will lose info unless if you do a Repair install. I do not know if this is possible with OEM restore Discs. Also, make sure you have your Windows XP key because you may have to reactivate Windows. Get a tool like "Magical Jelly Bean" if you do not have your Key written down anywhere.

Also, the last part of Hogger74's advice is Excellent. You should get the software for your Hard Drives, because it will tell you how to set up your drives including different jumper settings. Try to get a Windows install first, so you can look at the Diagrams and try different setups before you format. Then get the DOS application one. This will make a boot disc that will allow you to boot into an application that can format your Hard Drives. However, DO NOT Format unless if this is a Last Resort AND you are certain you can reinstall Windows.

Oh, just to be safe.... When I used to screw around with Windows ME (Windows 98 will be the same), I found out that you can reinstall the OS without any installation CDs. First things first, get your Windows 98 Key. Click on the start menu and select "run". Now type in "regedit" without the quotes and hit enter. Expand "HKEY Local Machine". Then Expand "Software". Scroll down to and expand "Microsoft". Scroll down to "Windows and Expand it. Now click on "Current Version". Look to the right and there will be a registry value named "product key". Write this down. This is your Windows 98 product key.

Your next step is to make a windows 98 boot disc. Go to Control Panel and double click add/remove programs. There should be a button for a startup disc. This is what you want to do.

Last is to back up your Windows 98 installation files. Go to C:/windows/options

You will see a folder named "CABS". Take this folder and burn it to a CD-R. Inside this folder will be your setup.exe and all your setup files. If you end up formatting and something goes wrong, you can always go back to using Windows 98 untill you figure things out. Boot your system with the Windows 98 boot disc, but also have your CD-R inserted. Then when you exit you will be in DOS. You will need to navigate to your cd (I assume e. Then type cd cabs. Then setup or setup.exe. This should start your Windows 98 installation.

Somebody please confirm this as I no longer run Windows Me and have not for a long time. This is all coming from my memory which could be off.

There is no way to do something like this with Windows XP, so you actually need your Recovery Discs to reinstall Windows XP.

 

To the original poster:

Your dilemma: You got a PC with Win XP and want to add a spare harddrive. But after doing so the OS on the spare harddrive is booting up instead.

Before going any further, make certain that in your PC's BIOS, all 4 IDE ports are set to AUTO detect.

I'm assuming you are connecting the spare harddrive on the same ribbon cable as your existing hardrive. If this is what you have done then your spare harddrive is not compatible with your existing harddrive and is assuming the MASTER role and your existing hsrddrive automatically becomes the slave.

Fixing this is a little tricky.
First, set the jumper on the existing harddrive to MASTER and the spare harddrive to SLAVE. MASTER/SLAVE jumper positions are usually described on the label of the harddrives.

Second, if after doing this, your spare harddrive is still booting up instead, try setting the spare harddrive jumper to Cable Select instead (CS).

Third, if your spare harddrive is still booting up instead of your existing harddrive, plug out your spare harddrive and toss it into the trash bin and save yourself any further trouble.

 

If u havn't fixed your HD problem I can help u. E-mail me or just respond back and i'll help u. brad31365@yahoo.com