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Nintendo DS vs. Sony PSP

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  1. Mr_Del

    Mr_Del Regular member

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    Just an inch bigger???. You must not understand wide screen measuring. Look at this: http://forum.lik-sang.com/other/psp-release/psp-release6.jpg . That must be one huge inch. And when your GBDS (Iwill call since it is still a game boy) Was first designed it did not have internet WIFI. It was only going to suport wireless gameing between people in the same room. I was unaware they changed that since the release. I guess they knew what PSP was going to do and got scared. Now look at those GBDS game titles being thrown everywhere. How many of those are not N64 ports with slight improvement? Maybe 3. Like I said before if your a kid get the GBDS since the PSP Would be to much manpower for you.

    PSP out of the box -->Play movies on memory stick or the new disk format, Internet WIFI, Able to comunicate with other PSP without internet, Play MP3, View pictures, USB connection to the PC for updates. $250 US.

    GBDS out of the box --->Internet WIFI, Stylus, Microphone, Metroid DEMO, internet chat, Two screens. $150 US. Hmmmm Short list. But really who wants a game system so you can internet chat. Ill be busy draining the batteries on games.

    -Del

    I have no idea why some links will not work in After Dawn. The link I gave does not work for me if I click it. The adress is valid. You may have to copy and pate.
     
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  2. Alien13

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    Hi does anyone know approx how much the psp will cost in Australia coz it aint out yet dont think?
     
  3. Alien13

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    These r some of da games i found:

    Ape Escape: On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment
    America

    ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin' Trails, Sony Computer

    Entertainment America

    Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower, Capcom

    Dynasty Warriors, KOEI

    FIFA 2005, Electronic Arts

    Gretzky NHL, Sony Computer Entertainment America

    Lumines, Ubisoft

    Metal Gear Acid, Konami

    MLB, Sony Computer Entertainment America

    MVP Baseball, Electronic Arts

    NBA, Sony Computer Entertainment America

    NBA Street Showdown, Electronic Arts

    Need for Speed Rivals, Electronic Arts

    NFL Street 2 Unleashed, Electronic Arts

    Rengoku: Tower of Purgatory, Konami

    Ridge Racer, Namco

    Smartbomb, Eidos Interactive

    Spider-Man 2, Activision

    Tiger Woods PGA TOUR, Electronic Arts

    Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix, Activision

    Twisted Metal: Head On, Sony Computer Entertainment America

    Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online
    Entertainment

    Wipeout Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America

    World Tour Soccer, Sony Computer Entertainment America
     
  4. Taranthil

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    There are games on the DS where you have to run your THUMBNAIL across the touch screen. I've done it. It left NO mark. How does it 'get easily scratched

    I've seen more scratched (Broken, useless square-buttoned, shattered, etc) PSPs than I have DSes. My DS took a thick block of wood (30 cm by 30cm) on top of the OPEN SCREENS, and it left a small scratch on the plastic. I've knocked it, dropped it, and even tossed it many times.

    Whereas my friend got his shiny new import PSP, and dropped it. Once. It broke. And never worked again.

    I mean, sure it isn't a toy, and adults should be careful. But accidents are sure to happen, and when they do, I'll be sitting around playing Hunters and Mario Kart, while you look at the shattered remains of your console...

    (Yes, I am slightly biased. However, my judgements are only made from my own experience, not from what someone else said, or what some site says.)
     
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    Hmmmm...... Aint right, sorry.

    "Able to communicate with other PSP's without internet. Hey! The DS does that! Whoa!

    Del: Oh well, I'll just omit DS features to make the PSP sound better. It's not like I'm a fanboy or anything.

    Mp3:Erm.... you actually have to buy Mp3s (PSP doesn't actually use the MP3 format, so they aren't Mp3s)

    Internet Wifi: The DS already uses the Wifi. Give me an example of the PSP doing so.

    USB connection to the PC for updates.... OK... If you have broadband to waste you bandwidth on, more memory sticks to store these'updates' on, oh, and if you have broadband and a PC, why the HELL are you using it to update your PSP. You'd be playing the huge range of excellent PC games....

    The DS has a demo out of the box. I don't see a single game or even a pitiful demo for the PSP. Strike one for the PSP.

    It can play UMDs out of the box. Ok. Not mentioning the fact that Sony probably haven't translated any movies into UMD format, they'll cost $30-$40 each.
    I can get a portable DVD player, which looks better, plays better, is cheaper, and plays DVD's which I can borrow from my friends (Assuming you have any), video stores, and I already own quite a few.

    Strike 2.

    Also, you said "Who wants a game system so you can internet chat."
    Actually, being able to pictochat during a game would increase the social element. You could draw rude imagery to insult your opponent, insult them with words, or congratulate them. And who wants to play movies on a tiny battery? I'll be too busy using my HUGE amount of battery power on excellent DS games. Instead of sitting at home, playing through the adaptor.

    Strike 3 for the PSP.

    Essentially, you complained about a demo, then said you'd be busy playing games. Perhaps it did not occur to you that you can play a demo. Also, all the features you listed had NOTHING to do with games. And yet you made that remark, which simply made you sound uneducated.


    Microphone. If you can talk via Ps2 style headphones, so much the better. Although it is not very functional at this stage (34 metres(max me and my friend could get to) doesnt really require a microphone. But, if they get an add-on to extend the range (possible kilometre, it would be handy.)

    Though the PSP has its good points, the dismal battery life, fragility, new format movies/music and no touch screen just doesn't cut it for me. (Guess who uses a laptop with a touch-pad).

    And please, Del. Make reasonable informed posts next time you post. You only embarrass yourself.








     
  6. Mr_Del

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    Tarinthil, With you all I can do Is agree that we will dissagree. I Myself prefer the PC Gameing since the games have much more functionality. You can update them often and even MOD them. But maybe one day I will go on a trip and might want a hand held system. Yes I have always been an enemy of Nintendo and wish they would die. All wishes do not come true. It thrills me to see that a new system comming out may be able the shut up GB systems.

    All facts I have listed can be found on many web sites. But lets look at this. GBDS $150 US descent porptable DVD player $160. Total of $310. Thats a bit bit higher than $250 for a PSP. UMD is not a PSP only format. It is already being used on portable media centers in other countries. Systems not even made by sony. Technicaly the PSP is a Portable Mulitmedia Center that plays games. Now the memory stick is a PSP only thing. UMD is an infant and may one day be just a big or kill the DVD market.

    Many movie companies are alreay releasing current movie titles on UMD. And get this. Nintendo has announced it will release an adapter that can play UMD.Probaly for $90 US. Guess they got scared again.The only thing that has kept Nintendo as long as it has been is there excelent marketing. Where the Machintosh failed Nintendo succeeded. Mac had all the schools use thier systems. All the kids would learn how to use the Mac. The theory was that all the kids would then purchase a Mac when they get older.It did not work.

    Nintendo targeted the kids as well. In the begining all there games had cute little animals in it. Nothing was killed. Kids loved it. So as that generation got older Nintendo would alter the games to fit the wants of thier age group. This kept the kids hooked. Then the age of portable gamming was arround. Even though SEGA and turbo graphics had a far better portables, The nintendo generation was huge. So the monochrome system out sold the full color system. Anyway as time marched on more adult type games showed up on the market. Nintendo again focusing on that first generation. And all this worked. I have to admit it is a geniues way to market a new system. So all game types where kept to continue the appeal from children and hopefully older. SEGA had a bad marketing plan and thats why they failed. Turbo graphics handheld would play the console games as well. That is something never again repeated. Very original. But turbo graphics is dead now.

    Why do I hate Nintendo? Every new system to hit the market will not play the prieviuos systems games. Nintendo games seem to be to easy and can finish them fast. This demonstrates that the company realy does not care about the consumer. Thier main focus is money. Look at how much richer they get when a new system comes out. You have to rebuild you library in its format. The games are repetative an re-released way to much. How many time does mario cart have to be released? The company its self lacks originality. Only the 3rd party games seem to be something new. Most 3rd party release in multi platform.

    SONY is smart. All the new consoles will play all the old consoles games. they can even use the older controllers. SONY its self does not realy make any games but does have input on the games that come out. There is not repeat release of any game. There may at time be a sequel But it is not the same game. SONY is realy attention to detail on graphics and muti use of the counsole. What Nintendo can play game and DVDs. What? I din't hear anything. OH thats right, None.

    Bottom line on this topic though. both PSP and DS have many features but not all the same features. And yes the PSP plays in MP3 format. The number of features are not much more from one to the other. There is no way to deny the superior graphs that the PSP has over the DS. Like I have been saying before you are going to get what you feel is the best. For me its PSP you its DS. So be it I really dont care. I will have something I feel is the best and so will you. But you have to admit the PSP screen is lager than half the DS system. Im sure both can get scratched and if dropped hard enough they will break. But thats part of ownership. If you never take that risk then you will never be playing with the system. There is no need to get hostile on this topic. That in itself is childish. PSP vs DS could be interprated as democrate vs republican. I'm sure you will pluck stuff out of this post and claim I said things I didnt. Thats your poragative. It does not make me mad one bit. Infact I enjoy the laugh from it. I do not think the rest of theese readers care to hear it. Correct me if you must but try to do it tactfully so you dont look like a jerk.

    -Del
     
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  7. Alien13

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    i hav a ds straight out of the box i put in a gba game and played it perfect. Can the psp play ps1 and ps2 games !?

    the only reason they put out game releases is because the games are a big hit and they add better features.
     
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  8. swillett

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    i think the ds is alot better than the psp because of the functions but i have to give credit for the psp and its graffics. here some news the nintendo ds has about 320,000 colours were as the psp has about 20 million colours.
     
  9. Mr_Del

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    Out of the box the PSP can not play PS1 or PS2. The PSP is not a console its a handheld. There are rumors that an attachment will come out to allow the PSP to play PS 1 games. I have yet to find any truth to those rumors. The PSP is capable of doing so it just needs media to do it. The Hardware may not allow for PS2 Game play. But who knows. If SONY realy wants it to play PS2 or 1 they would find a way to make it happen.

    Nintendo could give a rats Patoot if the DS played N64 or game cube games. Although it could be possible dont count on it. They would lose money since you could use your current library. They would rather see you spend more mooney to get those games in the DS format. Are you catching on yet as to why Nintendo games are Re-released way to much? Its a makerting money makeing scheem. This is why I'm amazed they allowed the DS to play GBA. Im really glad Microsoft hasnt release a handheld yet. This forum would on without end.

    -Del
     
  10. RIZZOMI6

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    The other day i had pre ordered mine and in te npapers the psp is cumin out in a few months:(.

    So today i cancelled my reserved psp and i am going to buy the bundle pack from estarland the pack inludes:

    Sony PSP Value Pack:
    PSP System
    32 MB Memory Stick Duo
    Headphones w/Remote Control
    Battery Pack
    AC Adaptor
    Soft Case and Cleaning cloth
    Movie/Music/Game video sampler UMB Disc
    First 1 million PSP from Sony will include Spiderman 2 UMD
    Twisted Metal: Head on
    Wipeout Pure
    Need for Speed Rivals
    PSP Starter Kit:
    DC Car Charger
    4 UMD Disc Jackets
    High-Quaility Earbuds
    USB Data Cable
    System Polish Cloth
    Screen Protector Film
    All-in-one Case


    for only $409 not bad ey...
    here is the website

    http://www.estarland.com/PSP.cat.HW.product.22477.html
     
  11. davidleal

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    i think that the psp is by far the dominent handheld in this situation unless you like to fall for the gimick of the DS's touchscreen and you enjoy playing games that r meant to be played by three year olds. If your looking for a gaming system that is powerful in the grafic department and games then you should clealy go for the PSP it may be pricy but look for all of the great stuff you get i mean its a no brainer but if you really cant mke up ur mind then save up ur money and buy both i dont think that its that hard of a choice really
    -Dave
     
  12. jwill247

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    Rizzom, yeah thats seems like an pretty good or ok deal, but any ways why do you just go to EB games and wait a few days for it to come out or have one on hold for you at some store, unless your'e going to go ahead and do that.
     
  13. slater999

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    This just shows how much better the psp is!!

    320,000 colours is nothing mobilt phones have more!!

    where as 20,000,000 thats alot !!







    PSP WINS BY A COUNTRY MILE!
     
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    hey i got a question on 12t person shooters how will u control it with only 1 analog stick
     
  15. NeoLance

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    Mr_Del, you've got to be the biggest Sony Fanboy ive ever seen on a forum. You dont like Nintendo? You wish they would die? Very close minded, and you dont realize that both machines have different capabilites. You hate all Nintendo Consoles because they are made by Nintendo. Boy, are you missing things. I dont know what you are talking about Nintendo taking your money, when PSP is SO much more expensive than the DS. Especially including all the add-ons. I just wanted everyone to know this fanboys comments are false. HAHAHAHA Nintendo taking your money...
     
  16. Mr_Del

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    Neolance perhaps you need to learn to read. Here let me quote myself.

    Bottom line on this topic though. both PSP and DS have many features but not all the same features. And yes the PSP plays in MP3 format. The number of features are not much more from one to the other. There is no way to deny the superior graphs that the PSP has over the DS. This was in the march 16th post. I seem to be acknowledeging That the DS has Features. Hold on here is another.

    on march 15 -->PSP out of the box -->Play movies on memory stick or the new disk format, Internet WIFI, Able to comunicate with other PSP without internet, Play MP3, View pictures, USB connection to the PC for updates. $250 US.

    GBDS out of the box --->Internet WIFI, Stylus, Microphone, Metroid DEMO, internet chat, Two screens. $150 US. Hmmmm Short list. But really who wants a game system so you can internet chat. Ill be busy draining the batteries on games.

    HMMM seems like I even know what those feature are. Look at this. I go and buy a PS3. Wow I can still play all the games I currently own. I can even play with the same older controllers. This is good since I can multi play without having to buy another controller. No need to imediately start a new library thus save money.

    Now I go out and get the next Nintendo Console whatever it is going to be called. Based on history this is what would happen. Dangit I can't play any of my current games on this system. I cant even use the older controllers. I now have to go out and spend money to have games that will work on this new system (here is the Nintendo scheem to get more money). If I want multiplayer I will even have to buy more controllers. This is unless Nintendo follows SONYs example of thiniking about the customer. I already know what your are going to say. I would already have the older system so I could still use it to play its games. This may be true but you cant move any of the hardware over and it will die eventualy. All electronics die. Your unit could have already died causeing you to buy the new one. Then its time to Ebay your currents games for 5 bucks a piece since you can no longer use them.

    Oh and those add ons you mentioned. Most of those are already apart of PSP. You can add onto the DS to make it do everyting the PSP can do but your going to spend a lot more than $250US to do it and still wont have an anolog stick. And dont forget PSP has has no need for add ons at the moment. Dang less stuff you have to buy. I guess that would be saving money as well. I am also confident that when the PSP2 comes out it will be able to use all the PSP media and games. The touch screen is the ONLY thing the DS has going for it. I have said in here that the touch screen is a nice addition. But since you can't read anyway I will let you find where I said that. Im not going to sacrifice excellent game play and graphics just so I can touch a screen. I have a Palm pilot for that.

    Bottom line. I like challenging games With good graphics and smooth gameplay. I have not ever and probaly never will, in my OPINION, find such a game on Nintendo systems. "Ohhh what about such and such game?" I thought you would say that. The only games for any Nintendo that come close to a challange are 3rd party. Most such 3rd party games are always released multiplatform. You probaly dont understand that last sentence so let me define it. Multiplatform means to release on more than one system type. So like I said to the other guy, go ahead an pluck things from this post and twist my words. I will enjoy the laugh. IF DS makes you happy then Enjoy. Its all about what you like in the end. I mean if your in 7th grade or lower the PSP is to grown up for you anyway. The hostility is not needed unless you are in 7th grade or lower. This is just a forum of opinion. Yes I made one wrong statement about the DS in the begining but I acknowledged it and corrected it. If only there was a forum here to talk about how companies make money. Put it this way. Nintendo could have sold the DS with all add-ons built in. Yes it would make the cost a little higher (not by much) but you make far more money selling things in pieces. Would you make more money selling a car as a whole or stripping it down and selling as parts. Its the same thing Nintendo has always been doing. Not to mention that Nintendo halts game production on Systems right when the next console comes out. SONY still to this day puts out PS1 games. So There you have it Neolance.

    -Del
     
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    i just got the ds during christmas and it is really inovative. although there are not that many games out for it yet. the psp is cool don't det me wrong but $250, thats alot of dough and most people don't have it so i would definetly recomend the ds.
     
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    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/kikoateneo410/dsvs.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

    i would say, the DS is a very unique system. and it's 100% original. who would use mp3 on a gaming system when you already have an ipod and who would wanna watch movies when we have dvd palyers? sony was so desperate to produce the ultimate handheld when the PSP's features aren't related to gaming, unlike the DS, they only added an extra recipe for us to enjoy gaming, that's the touch screen. my uncles would always tell me to buy nintendo stuff since in the early days, everyone would ask "what stage are you in on mario 64?" quite interesting, the butting in of the PSP was awfully wrong because, no one would buy it when they aready know that the games are just like the PS2's... i mean, get my point? the ps2 is already the king of the the big brother systems, why would some body buy a psp who's less pop than the DS. i have this magazine, the main headline of it was "DS vs. PSP" it was a tie, darn it, a 47/60 on both systems, but when i looked at the part where in they rated the games, the DS got a 9/10 and stated "ground breaking games, more mario and new unique games to come" where in the PSP only got a 7/10 and stated "no new games, only mini sized games for the PSP" :p it's just simple, the DS rules, you base you're bet on the games right? even though the DS has less better graphics than the PSP, everyone could still play the game right? let's face it, the DS is just simply the better system, cool new features and 2 screens, i mean com'mon, i have DS and the games are awesome, i'm planning to buy more games. ;)

    brainiacs, DS kills PSP, i'll bet on it. ;)
     
  19. Alien13

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    Why pay for movies you might already have just so you can have them on the psp? Buy a portable dvd player and play the movies you already have in stead of buying movies for the psp plus portable dvd players have a bigger screen.
     
  20. spazzim4u

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    I'm not sure if you know this already but it takes close to about 1 1/2 minutes to load games on the psp and thats while. This happens because sony used a laser and not a disk.
     
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