Nvidia vs ATI

I can't believe this "console vs. PC" debate has gone this far.

There is virtually no argument as to which has the better graphics and performance. How about a nice little analogy

Consoles are like a Mustang GT, a very good all around fast car but it's made for mass consumption. Performance gets sacrificed to meet a specific price point in order to guarantee a large amount of sales. It's "good enough" for most.

High end PCs are like a Ferrari. Nothing is sacrificed in order to reach a pinnacle of pure power and performance. Sales aren't going to be anywhere near the Mustang's numbers but Ferrari knows for a fact that there are more that enough people who want the best performance available to make a profit.

 

LOL

Somebody correct me here because I'm just guessing .... 20GB 5400RPM 2MB ~ATA66 with 32MB of memory (plus 32MB for the XGPU) .... compare that to a ... computer? Seriously, NOT a chance ... hell , we can even up the ante: 160GB 7200 8MB ATA133, 256MB of memory -- i dont think even after modding we'll find a configuration like that -- but even still -- it sucks the big one next to a decent computer -- with a computer, sure you fork a lot of money but (a) you get much more use out of it and (b) even just for gaming, the PC, spec for spec, owns the arena. Furthermore, you've essentially just said that the Xbox is a computer -- harddrive, ram etc -- and as far as computers go -- it sucks the big one

Nephilim makes a good point -- PCs are for everyone either because of cost, "coolness" however if you want performance, PC is the way to go.

 

If you are suggesting that PC graphics are just a "little" better than console graphics, have a read at my previous two or three posts. Now unless you've got some undeniable proof (either by spec or real-world) we can look at, PC's do kick the console arse -- that was, actually, the role of the modern console -- to be a cheaper gaming platform.

 

DAMMMMN! Now we're talking heehee -- ok so I think the issue about "average Xbox owners" is settles (i.e., avg meaning people without those ultrahigh-resolution TVs). Heehee, moving on:
- For those who have those fancy ass TVs keep in mind you can also output your PC to it at whatever resolution it supports
- Again, spec for spec, the PC still wins --- and especially so at those insane resolutions -- unless the games (i.e., Doom3) come pre-crippled so that consoles can crunch through it. Like I mean, just stop and think about it: Xbox is what: 733Mhz or something? My system here in the 2.2Ghz ballpark with 32 times as much memory and a superior video card can, at the most, get roughly 20fps off Doom3 (all the way down to -8fps) -- all at 800x600 -- there's no way in hell the Xbox will be able to even hold a candle to a computer -- especially when one starts crunching the resolution up towards 1920x1080 -- I would hazard a guess that anything short of an FX53/P4EE+ and a 6800/X800 will have incredible difficulty playin in that ballpark of a resolution.

 

Backpedaling now? Very reminiscent of the factory PC thread you started.

It was a frickin' analogy for crying out loud.

 

Well if you look at things literally - every single analogy in the world is "bad".

About par although I would imagine the NV35 has a bit more headroom since its running on a smaller process

 

And this is coming from the guy that has yet to start a coherent and useful thread. I'm heartbroken.

 

LOL play nice Of course JSrife, you gotta slow down a bit heehee (i.e., you prolly have 7 different topics in the last 10 posts here or something like that -- dont get picky with me im just conveying an idea haha) ... let's spend some time on a topic or two and develop it

Cheerios

 

Very true but let's try to keep them in Safety Valve okay? I have a hard enough time keeping this area "clean" and "pretty"

Cheers

 

Yes indeed but it takes away from the depth of the thread when every other post is either (a) a snippet comment (b) a reply to a snippet comment or (c) and offtopic post or (d) a reply to an offtopic post or (e) Having to re-explain something over again. This is a good thread indeed, but let's try to keep some degree of substance and depth and contribute to the thread

 

Yep! I think we are beginning to see a trend in games themselves rather than hardware: it used to be that the gaming hardware determined how well we could play a game but recently its become more of a, "if you want to play this game you need a certain hardware platform" ... like i mean games have always had hardware requirements but they've never been seriously enforced