Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution

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  1. Matrifart

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    Sony in debt?? Ok. i didn't know that, but it sounds faesible. However i hope sony wins this round. I dread to think what would happen if M$ got the largest slice here aswell. They already own the os industry.
    I really hate M$ to hell, not the xbox as much, but Micro ******* soft. hatehatehatehate.........

    Lots of reasons for it, but none that are very valid.

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    Gates, twice to be sure.^^

     
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  2. ashroy01

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    all 3 systems will do well initially because, let's face it, video gaming is huge right now. A drop off will occur in the years to come because in my opinion the peak was around San Andreas and Halo 2.

    The market is big enough for 3 players, playstation is the benchmark - ps2 outsold xbox 4:1 for every one xbox bought, there were four ps2s gettin' rung up as well. PS3 will outsell the 360 even if it's a slightly weaker product - and if it performs better AND competes in price - look out xbox - don't worry, Microsoft will be fine - I'll take those checks any day. Nintendo's cool - Yeah, it is!

    I'm not gonna feel sorry for anybody who falls behind in this market because they're fat NOW.
     
  3. flip218

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    Matrifart,

    watch the language.
     
  4. solargame

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    has anyone forgotten the revolution. im a sony fan boy but nintendo has a tendancy to make low price extremely high quality hard ware. and the games are simple fun and addictive. i saw x-play once and they were testing xbox ps2 and gamecube to see which is the most powerful (endurance of damage.)
    they had 3 test.
    1.drop from a 15 foot drop.(sony died on the first test.)
    2.hit with a sludge hamer(both GC and xbox survived.
    3. luanch the systems into a brick wall.(xbox did not start but the gc worked fine.
     
  5. Matrifart

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    Ok, sorry for bad language. Got this pent up rage on M$, hehe.

    I agree, they will probably survive, since there are "too" many hardcore ps fans out there.

    I think the revoltion will be wick and will have no problems, they are targeting the younger audience, and have close to a monopoly there.
     
  6. rap4life

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    the revolution and x box360 r going to be cheaper then the PS3 by 100 and 200 dollors most of america cant aford something $500. PS 3 and revolution will sale in japan, japan is the 3rd richest contries with a population less the TX, Ca, FL, or NY. Maybe the japanese think the USA cant make a console or still mad about the A bomb.um like i was saying with nitendo making something that could cost 150-200 will take money from and console sales from PS3 and Xbox 360. Xbox 360 will have japanese like games for japan Sony Buys. Japan agreed with Hitler. so if u buy PS3 its like saying Hitler was not wrong. Dont ride with Hitler
     
  7. rap4life

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    quote]Chances are that if PS3 doesn't do as well as PS2 did then they will loose a lot of money while most likely increasing their debt. Why do you think they are attacking xbox 360? They know that PS is their cash cow and M$ has proved that they are a credible threat and the mud throwing by both companies seems to indicate that this round will be dog fight where the consumer will benefit. [/quote]
    the PS2 made only like $1,000 they made too many. they only started making money last year
     
  8. mikey88

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    M$ were the ones losing money on the xbox. Playstations always made money.

    Lucky for us there's this console war... we can only benefit from it.

    Personally I won't touch an xbox because I'm not interested in it's games. I'm a final fantasy/tekken player and most other games I have no interest in. especially that overhyped, did-not-deliver, what-sort-of-ending-was-that game Halo 2, lame. my friend had that game on his Xbox, and if that's the best they have they'll lose this battle. Even he was sadly disappointed and he's a M$ fanboy.
     
  9. WVengence

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    Martifart:

    I will agree that the PS3 has more different imports. However, the Sony Memory stick & Compact Flash, but these are meant to use for pictures, music and the like. You can just as easily use USB for most anything that supports those formats (Like a Digital camera or MP3 player) on the 360. Again, it does have 4 more USB ports, but I could just as easily use a USB hub to expand the #.

    The PS3 does have 3 more controllers (There will not be 8. That is a limitation of Bluetooth and there isn't much Sony can do there), but how many people are really going to use 7 controllers. These don't really have anything to do with Multimedia and probably won't be used anyways. I rarely use 2 and 4 only on fighting games... Technically though, 360's wireless USB could support 255. While they have only supported 4, they could easily deploy an update through live for more if they really wanted.

    You could use a PS3 as a hub, but then most anyone that has Live also has a router and/or switch. It's a feature that I (and most anyone using a 360 online) would never need. However, that has nothing to do with multimedia.

    Next up is dual support with 1080P. Again, the 360 doesn't match this BUT do you have a HDTV with 1080P support? I'd be surprised if you did. Since HDTV's have approx. 10-15% market penetration most people don't have one (let alone two) HDTV's. You will have to spend $3000-$4000 to pick up one that supports 1080P and double that for two. While this MAY have some use several years from now, that remains to be seen.

    Blue Ray-Where to start with this... considering the fact that it isn't even a standard right now and may yet be unified or actually lose the format entirely (Betamax or Minidisc anyone?). Wouldn't it be great if you had to spend that extra $ to get Blue Ray and it becomes useless? Plus, if you read up on Blue Ray a bit, you would know that they are having issues with the disks being too fragile right now...

    So, PS3 does have 1080P and Dual Monitor support, Blue Ray (which may be a DISADVANTAGE)and extra media connectors.

    Xbox has connectivity to windows. That means that I could read my Compact Flash, SD, MMC or XD. I can stream video or TV, Music in multiple formats. I can stream Blue Ray, HD DVD or the unified format with a PC drive. Pictures or pretty much any other MEDIA I want through a PC. Plus I can just hook up my IPOD and use my own playlists/music in the games if I so choose (I like certain music playing online).

    Plus, with LIVE, MS has the ability to update their system anytime they want. So if a new format comes out, they can just load an update to support any new format that comes out (such as Holographic disks at 850GB per disk). I can download music, videos, games or even movies from LIVE. What does Sony have? Nothing.

    I will conceed that you make good points, but the extra controllers, extra USB, extra card readers, extra network ports and 1080P/Dual Monitor support are all things that don't affect me (i do have a HDTV but it only does 1080i) and I'm not going to spend $6000 plus for 2 HDTV's.

    Otherwise, I'm pretty certain that Xbox has been outselling the PS2 since the release of the Slim Line and they have started making $ on the xbox as well. It is also rumored that they will be making $ on the 360 from day one, which Sony won't be able to do.
     
  10. mikey88

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    I'd like to see some facts with this comment. perhaps a link or something... because if it's just something your mum tells you to help you sleep at night I'm not interested.
     
  11. Ludikhris

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    Its acutally untrue. Its an industry norm that each console is a loss, last I heard Nintendo was the only company that had really softened the blow too. Sony and MS both have high loss per console... (of course this only applies to first release, it would obviously lessen as time passes and technology advances) and I cant remember where I read it, but as far as I read Microsoft never recovered there initial costs in developing XBOX (ill post it if I find it) however there is no doubt they wont recover this time due to
    - it is not their first console so there are less costs
    - they WILL sell more consoles this time anyway you look at it

    during release each company loses about $100+ per console

    Ludikhris
     
  12. Ludikhris

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    Ok here ya go... REAL NUMBERS!!!
    Im just dropping this down as proof that nobody is going out of business. Many people are spreading rumors that are groundless about Nintendo following Sega and that Sony is going under. These numbers prove a much different story. The real important number is "Net Income after Taxes"

    Nintendo
    http://www.hoovers.com/nintendo/--ID__41877--/free-co-fin-annual.xhtml

    Microsoft
    http://www.hoovers.com/microsoft/--ID__14120--/free-co-fin-annual.xhtml

    Sony
    http://www.hoovers.com/sony/--ID__41885--/free-co-fin-annual.xhtml

    Ok so this DOESNT prove that a company is or isn't leaving the game industry (it kinda does for Nintendo seeing as how they are pretty much only a gaming company), and it doesnt show how well each are doing comparitively as per game consoles. I would also like to remind you all that it has no bearing on which console is going to come out on top (its not like Sony and MS are going to drop out of every other industry and focus all their capital on their gaming console) but it certainly shows you that [bold]rap4life[/bold] is wrong and that all three companies are going to be around to launch the new systems and most likely continue supporting them.

    Ludikhris

    Notice a trend in Nintendo's earning and profit margines? That doesnt look safe, but they will still release their stuff ontime and all. Im kinda thinking that Nintendo will be a good stock investment, they may pull a fast one as far as profits are concerned.
     
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    "Unit sales of Sony's PlayStation 2 console rose 77 percent from a year ago to about 333,000. By comparison, Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Xbox unit sales were 153,000 and Nintendo Co. Ltd's (7974.OS: Quote, Profile, Research) GameCube unit sales were 63,000 -- down 49 percent and 35 percent, respectively." - global unit sales for last month.

    "As a quick comparison, the PS2 outsold the Microsoft Xbox by almost three to one, and outsold Nintendo's GameCube by over five to one. Considering the price differences, the technical inferiority of the PS2 and the strength of its rivals' first party line-ups, this is an incredible result for Sony, and it's almost hard to believe that the company has had such unprecedented success with a machine that had such a difficult launch period." - europe stats.

    couple of facts which support Playstations dominance.
     
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    none of those links worked :)
     
  16. Ludikhris

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    couldnt get it to work bubba....
     
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    sorry about that guys. I'm working on fixing the problem now. Have to change Image hosting sites.
     
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    mikey88, see how much the ps2 outsold the gameboy by.....that's right, it didn't. The gameoy is the most selling system ever. Nintendo has a huge fanbase, but they're starting to lose them because of all of these damn mario games. I never liked mario, i liked the legend of zelda. actually, the legend of zelda is my fav. game series.

    However, nintendo said they would have more than 5 new mario games at launch. what the hell is up wtih nintendo and mario?????

     
  19. rap4life

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    im wrong lol.no sony is not leading in any of its sales expt they console and u dont make good money in console. Any thing that show Sony losing money, shows that sony cant affored a large amount of PS3. The PSP was a bad bad idea for Sony. many PS3 will be sold in Japan. Japan will have the 1st pickings of the PS3 which should take more then any other contry. just a recall for sony will cost too much.
     
  20. rap4life

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    gear.ign.com/articles/599/599431p1.html

     
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