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Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by solargame, May 12, 2005.

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  1. WVengence

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    Now, Matt, I really have to ask... Other than the Major Nelson article, what information do you have that leads you to believe that the Xbox has more processing power?

    While I agree that the ATI GPU is more powerful, I doubt that you understand why I think that...

    Considering that the both have 512MB, how do you figure that the Xbox has more?

    If you expect to be taken seriously, be prepared to back up your statements and also pay attention to what other people have to say.
     
  2. flip218

    flip218 Moderator Staff Member

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    bye Matrifart.
     
  3. Ludikhris

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    bye matrifart..... behave yourself....
    If you get banned is it IP or Screenname?
     
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  5. flip218

    flip218 Moderator Staff Member

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    I believe it's your email address. You can always rejoin with another email address.

    I've put out enough warnings. This type of discussion can get out of hand real fast ..... so there is the no need to flame or call people names.
     
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  7. Ludikhris

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    Pfft that is a Microsoft press release..... Let me go find you one from Sony that says "Sony is God" and one from Nintendo saying "Nintendo is God" Im sure they exist.
     
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  9. syntheti

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    hmm seems to me pretty even
    im still gonna buy an xbox 360
    have to wait to see actual gameplay and play myself before i can judge
     
  10. Bicoulord

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    So whcih one will have better graphics, i dont really expect this to be answered because not everyone knows this, but i will like to find out. The first xbox had alot better graphics then the first one(besides the ffx series) which is a very awsome game, so i just want to know which one will be better. 0\ Thanks.
     
  11. Bicoulord

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    I meant the first ps2 whoops lol
     
  12. FintheA

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    WVengence,
    I like your style as you seem to fair and balanced, now as an avowed Xbox fan let me take a stab at why the Xbox 360's Memory Bus is far better than PS3, you see that 10MB OF edram is super fast (and expensive)and since it clears and emptys fast all you need is a small amount and it allows the flow of data to be constant rather then be bus limited by taking the heavy data load of AA and rendering off the main bus and channeling it through this secondary channel, on the PS3 EVERTHING,AA rendering and CPU to memory is on the same bus and EVERYTHING crawls in the "DATA TRAFFIC JAM" also a predicition the blu-ray is going to cause such a massive recall its going to make the PSP screen deal look like chump change.
     
  13. Ludikhris

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    It is actually closer than it appears. Sony is making their system to run better, which on the outside overall it appears that way, however it will more than likely be a nominal difference. I would say the two systems are going to be so close in performance it is going to all come down to amount of games. Both systems are saying they will be easy to make games for but XBOX really has the upper hand there. However think about the millions of people that already own a PS2, sure there are a lot of XBOXs out there but there are more than twice as many PS2s, and many of those sales are going to result in repeat customers. There will be a few of those repeaters that go to XBOX though because it will be out first. Even with that PS3 will still probably have more sales than XBOX in the initial market because lets face it, Sony is a marketing powerhouse, one that most magazines said made themselves look much more powerful than XBOX360 (though even I, a Sony supporter, realize its not as powerful as Sony says it is). My point being, game manufacturers want to make games that will sell, in order for people to buy games they must have the console. Hence why Sony had record sales in consoles (catch 22, you need console sales to get games, you need games to get console sales) therefore Sony is poised to get more software support from the big names. I think however, that it will even out as time progresses and this round will come much closer than previous rounds. In fact I think this time around it will be the closest console war ever. SNES and Genesis comes to mind, but Nintendo still kicked a$$. N64 and PSX were close at first, but Sony ran away with that one. Who knows, maybe Nintendo will run away with this round. We all know N64 was a better system than PSX, way better, but Sony still mopped the flow with Nintendo on their first try.
     
  14. jimmer

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    >_< doh!
     
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    FintheA: Not too bad. That is the jist of it, although it also includes the fact that the 10 EDRAM can do ALOT of functions that have to be handled by the CPU/GPU in the PS3.

    Personally, I do believe that the PS3 Cell is probably faster (and the RSX may be too) BUT with a combination of the procedural synthesis & XNA in software, plus the unique ATI design in hardware, I don't believe that the 360 will need to work as hard for the same level of graphics. No doubt that the two will be quite comparible (PS3 getting it's power from hardware, 360 from software) so it will come down to games and services.

    This is one of the main reasons I'm behind th 360. Live is a great service and stands to become even greater. Sony seems to think that repeating the PS2 for online service is fine and I don't agree with that and don't have anything close to it currently.

    Admittedly, I am not a fan of the Blue Ray inclusion for two reasons. 1. It may very well be faulty. Let's face facts and say that Sony doesn't have a good track record for producing new technology. The PSP screens being one example and the PS2's up until V4 or so would die rapidly. 2. The main reason that Sony is including BD-DVD is to get their media format out there in the hopes of shoving it down consummers throats and therefor pushing HD-DVD out by sheer numbers. I would prefer to have the choice at that point instead of paying extra $ just so I can help Sony get a proprietary media format so they can soak me for extra $.

    Before someone points it out, I know MS can do the same with Live, but they atleast offer you the choice of joining or not and if you want to get extra content.
     
  16. Ludikhris

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    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9265

    WHAT!?!?!?! This is CRAZY!!!!

    Im sorry Sony, but dont even THINK about not including a hard drive in the PS3. Making it expandable means that it may not be directly used, meaning we may loose TONS of features. Suddenly 360 doesnt sound as bad.....
     
  17. WVengence

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    Now, not to say I told you so, but I believe I told you so... :)

    Actually, I was just talking about the performance impact of no drive caching, but the breakdown in multimedia features, OS updates and the like is significant as well. Thanks for the link Ludikhris.
     
  18. jon_daqb

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    i love da xbox so i buyin dabox 360 so can it really burn dvd/cd's i heard anout the ipod features thats so sik i wont waste memory on my cpu space on music and porn no,ore it goe all on da boxx So box is better bitch's fuk ps2
     
  19. solargame

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    this is starting to get out of hand. im a sony fan boy but im all juiced after the heavy price tag of the psp. i think i might stick with the 360.30% chance of getting a 360. 60%of ps3.10% wait till they are both cheaper 5 years later.
     
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  20. mikey88

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    Agreed this is getting out of hand... from what I've read the stats seem so similar. I think the Xbox is a multipurpose box, and the ps3 is designed solely for games.

    But since I really just play fighting games and tekken is my fav game the choice is easy for me.
     
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