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Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by solargame, May 12, 2005.

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  1. HotWheel

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  2. Reasons?

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    Hotwheel, Morda8, davel1l, they are all the same. They jump into the forum without reading at least the most recent 5 pages. They just jump in like we haven't discussed anything yet and that we have never seen the xbox/majornelson propaganda graphs and reasoning. How can you blame someone if for coming down on them? Hey hotwheel, read this entire forum. The cell CPU is better than the xenon. And the xbox GPU looks better, but no one can really tell, because nVidia hasn't given us jack on thiers, besides a (amazing) 1.8 TFLOPs, 100 Billion shader ops, and ~51 billion dot prod per sec... Just read the forum before you chime in please.
     
  3. sammorris

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    rofl, those pictures don't even work!
    I don't mean to start tarring xbox360 all fans with this brush, but have you noticed that most of the n00bs have looked in favour of the 360?

    Initially I thought that it could be due to the fact they've been taken in by the misleading graphs out there, but I'm not so sure because, stereotype or not, most n00bs tend to scream out preference to one side, not just jump on the bandwagon that seems to go faster.

    Anyone else noticed this? Or am I losing it in the current UK heatwave?
     
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    What you meant to say is "The Cell CPU looks better than the Xenon and the R500 looks better than the RSX..." Since we all know that we don't know anything about either, correct?

    We can start up the debates again, but I thought we settled on we don't know anything about the console hardware and weren't going to use PC tech...

    As for those of you that want to start throwing numbers around (on both sides), think on this. The Intel 3.2Ghz is (of course) 3.2Ghz. That means that it is faster than the AMD A64 2Ghz (by about 63%) which means it's better, right? Strange, but the slower AMD CPU seems to perform much better than the mentioned Intel CPU. That can't be, of course, because it's not as fast...

    Numbers, gotta love em...
     
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  5. solargame

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    @ morda8, I can name more 5 original games. why cant I name a GTA game? 1. GT 1-4 2. GTA 3. God of War 4. Final Fantasy 5. Tekken 1-5. @ sammorris, I totally agree with the nOObs theory.
     
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    To Wvengence, I'm sure you've realised that it doesn't work that way. My 2165mhz Athlon 3000 will probably beat a celeron 3066mhz, and do it for three quarters of the price.

    It's not just the clock speed that matters with processors, its the efficiency of the use of that clock.

    A P4 3600 may have 3600mhz, but compare that with an AMD Athlon64 FX-57 with *only* 2800mhz, and the FX_57 will beat the intel hands down, though you'd need to be a millionaire and/or a fool to buy either.
     
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    In my whole life, I have never read so much nonsense spouted in a thread. I cannot believe the "my toy's better than your toy" attitude in this facile & futile debate. I have read through about 18 or so pages of peurile drivel. The end result been that several people got banned. (Flip, you have the patience of a saint!)

    Is it me, or are there a lot of children on this forum now? I ask because it is only children that would have a debate rapidly decline into petty squabbling.

    I haven't been here as often as before. Quite frankly I am glad. I was used to ADULTS talking & debating issues in a grown up manner. If this is the way people will try to argue points, forget it.

    Just a little rant!

    Pulsar
     
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    @pulsar,

    Thanks ... although some people would like to argue that I've got little patience :)
     
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    sammorris: Actually, that was my point. You can't really trust numbers to say how well something will work. There is far more that goes into it.
     
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    to pulsar: I couldn't agree more...
     
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    Yeah I also agree, this arguing isnt going anywhere and all this crazy debating is just getting people heated up and banned. If we keep fighting like this there will be no one left to debate with. And no matter what the Ps3 has Im still a die hard xbox fan.

    Peace out!
     
  12. sammorris

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    Now that's a REAL forum user.

    I don't have any quibbles with anyone being xbox fans, in fact i'm really relatively neutral (despite my microsoft prejudices) about the consoles since I am a fan of both sony and ATi, and an anti-fan of Microsoft and nVidia, so both consoles have something to offer for me. I'd still go for the PS3 overall, but like T4spartan, I don't have to say "look x is ten times better than y, cant believed you havnt workd it out" followed by such and such.gamespot.com or this and that.ign.com.

    I have nothing against those particular websites, and I am actually an IGN insider, but some people really do need to broaden their horizons a bit/lot.
     
  13. HotWheel

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    Well guess what punks ! i have read the whole forum before i even whore you a damn messeage
     
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    that is the biggest excuse I have heard in a while for xbox being behind ps2 in sales numbers and popularity. Did not nintendo's gamecube have a jump on both the PS2 and Xbox???

    Reality is that the library of games hurt xbox. They have some good exclusives. I give them that respect and honesty, but it does not compare to the library that PS2 has that is the bottom line and the reason they lag behind Sony.
     
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    to hotwheel: what on earth?
    to Pulsar: lol good response
    to lxhotboy: I agree that that's an awful excuse, and in my opinion, not an excuse at all, and I do think the games library is responsible. The first time console argument doesn't really stand up either. The original sony playstation meant that the late 90s generation was really a one man show, despite the fact that i bought a 64...

    I'm not sure what you mean by "the gamecube had a jump on the xbox and the ps2". As far as i know, the gamecube came out at around the same time as the xbox, around a year after the PS2. The dreamcast was the console that a) came out earlier and b) spelt the death of sega consoles. You just can't have a generation 6.5, it simply doesn't work. They saw that... too late.
     
  17. System21

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    what online services does sony have planned? i haven't been able to find anything on it so any help is appreciated!
     
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    No idea as of yet...
     
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    My bad, I was thinking that the gamecube came out first for some reason.
     
  20. sammorris

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    Well, not over here anyway...
     
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