Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution

But greed can take many forms... The point is that MS won't help sell more PS3's. They can make plenty of $ selling XP/Longhorn for PC's and sell more 360's based on it's connectivity to the PC. They might make 'some' $ from selling XP, but they will still need to fight hard for market share this round and won't help Sony to take the lead.

If MS were in Sony's place going into this, they might have done this for extra $, but not now.

 

True, my idea was that after awhile MS would do it, plus it wouldn't be that big of a selling point to the average person who just buys it for games, and has a PC.

Petty squabbling is all this really amounts to, because no one can know for sure yet.

 

Exactly, as has been said many times before. Many of these arguments I'm struggling to understand too. For some reason, in the rush to get out posts, the english is becoming very poor...

 

rite i dont know if any ones dun this but im gona tell u the facts about the ps3 acording to a reliable sorce(ps2 mag)and what i can remember from e3 but so people that dont spek tec jargon know what im on about and some coments i have to make

the playstation 3...

...is twice as powerfull as xbox360(ha)
...is 50 time more power than ps2 (woow)
...use bluray discs that are 11 times bigger than dvds(and i thort gta:sa was big)
...suports 7 (why 7)controlers (that look like sextoy banana things) with no anoying wires (wooo)
...graphics twise as good as the best so far (at least the chip(mmm chips) is)
...can play about 1000 ps1 titles
...can play about 3000 ps2(corect me if im rong)
...rockstar are confermed (here come the gta rummers)
...ea are confermed (fifa 2011 excpeted even thogh i dont like the game)
...gran turismo 5 with more than 6 cars in a race (about 50 acording to the video) about time 2
...also looks like the a fridge door(drunken cofuson awates especily when you maage to get a can of beer from the ps3)
...can plug in to 2 high-definiton tvs defrent image to both (talk about split screen)
...conects 2 psp with no wires
...has 8 usb slots eye toy confermed for one of them
...comes in white gray and black

 

ill take it in black please

 

Quote;
"acording to a reliable sorce(ps2 mag)"

Please, please tell me, how is a sony magazine reliable information? I take it you believe what politicians tell you too?

Do you not think they may be biased?

You also need to be more grammatically correct. When the spelling & punctuation is poor, it makes it very difficult to read/decipher the huge sentence you made.

Yet again we have someone who is contributing (in my opinion) a lot of nonsense to a reasoned (hah!) debate.

Why can't everyone just wait & see instead of this tiresome & peurile speculation. All we get is spec after spec, stupid comparisons & spouting garbage at regular intervals. The average age of these petty contributers must be 7 or eight years old.

I cannot believe the bull***t that some complete no-hopers are clinging on to from the manufacturers. This is for the children. Anyone who has at least a modicum of common sense will see this stupid thread for what it really is!

The only reason I keep looking in is to see what complete prats we are gathering. We have had people banned, yet others do not know when to stop. On & on, rather like this post - pure, unadulterated, inane drivel.

I am going to have a toot now!

Just another little rant!! LMAO

Pulsar


Probably get into trouble for this, not the best way for a senior member to act, but I am so fed up of this tiresome stupidity.

So fed up I will keep on having a look!

I would like to aplogise to the mods for this one in advance! (sorry Flip & Neph, I could not help myself!)

 

i think if the ps3 runs lindows it would be ok.but i really hope that it would be able to run longhorn.mac and others dont really matter to me.

 

um....i know that ps3 will be better....no point in provin y nuff ppl already proved it....and can i ask a question? Since Xbox 360 is being made by the top computer company in the world, how come the ps3 has 54GB hdd but Xbox360 only has 9GB?

 

tiny87tim: one more feature of the PS3 that you forgot... DRM. antipiracy nonsense that will make managing media a hassle!

 

Hovabyte is absolutely right.Those of you who own xbox praise 360 and ps2 owners pray ps3 and then there are very few who saw,touched,played both systems at e3 and have there opinion whhich is probably the right one.So dont discuss everything by just looking at pictures let them come to the market ,play em for 6 months and then give your personal opinion.
And secondly after every release of new game the game reviewers say "This game showed the true potential of the system,graphics are better than ever before".
Finding True potential of a system is neverending process.

 

we have a monumental clot. Ok, tiny87tim has refrained from saying "Ps3 roxx" or similar, but still, as earlier questioned, "reliable" ps3 mags. some of the facts are true, but those that are, we've known for many months. Some of them are also ridiculous (so many cars in gt5, "about 50 from what i've seen from the video). Someone can't count or think.

Ffor a start i don't believe any more than about 15 cars were visible in any one capture from "vision gran turismo", purile though it is, the game HAS NOT been named Gran Turismo 5 officially yet. Or i don't think so. And how many races do you knopw that involve 50 cars on track? VGT will be focusing on realism, and therefore the most we could expect is 20/21 ish opponents.

as pulsar has said, this thread just seems to be drawing in the prats like bees to a honeypot. To be fair though, the mods almost certainly have better things to do than listen to this drivel. We may have some fools, but that alone i think is no reason for people being banned. it is ironically those who reply with profanities and curses by the bucket that are asking to be banned.

so KEEP YOUR COOL!!!!

 

dlm, where do you find that Sony will equip "anti-piracy nonsense" and Microsoft won't? Because, I have seen neither mentioned specifically for either. Security firmware, however, is a term Sony stamped on their new set up, that may/may not be on the PS3. If PS3 is going to to this level, why wouldn't microsoft? What makes you think Microsoft is going to stannd back and watch us blow away copyrights, they aren't, it's cost them money, because they make money off the games not the system they sell.

 

If something lets you play games, it will have anti-piracy protection. All consoles will be packed full of protection software. Let's just hope StarForce isn't included!!!

 

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

Very good article. Gets somewhat technical, but the point comes across well. A very important point too. Apparently games in developement for XBox 360 will only utilize 2 threads anyway, within the first few years. Programmers are keeping games single threaded still.

This is a big leg up for the Intel 840. Everyone has been given the 840 so much crap about being slow in the FBS and clock speed for gaming applications. Most people are going opteron and 64 X2. Intel however is looking toward the future with it's 840 four threaded processor. As are Sony and Microsoft. What does this tell you? The not too near future holds multi-threaded games, thus the PS3 and 360's capabilities. Now, this leaves AMD in the dust, trying to pawn off higher bus and clock speeds while gaming is still single threaded. Purchasing a $1,000 840 now, would leave you with a decent workstation now (some applications, not many) and an excellent gaming and home PC in the future, saving you money.

I know this was a little off topic, but is a huge impact. I know I'm incorporating a 840 dual core HT CPU in my new computer, combine that with the new 7800 GTX and 8GB of DDR2 800 RAM, and your set for years, rather than always upgrading out of Dell's (average person just buys a pre-built PC) P.O.Ses.

This shows (read the link and easy to find things on the 840 v. AMD) that games will become multi-threaded, but won't even when the 360 is released. The 360 on release apparently will use only two threads(aside from helper cpus), until gaming changes. The new consoles are prepared for the transition along with intel for PCs, for the most part AMD is not, and will cost you more money.

I thought this was helpful for me, PC, and for everyone to recognize the first years of the new consoles will actually come down to GPU.

 

i'm sure that the PS3 will b much more powerful than the XB360 but all that power is wasted if there aren't a lot of really good games. And yes the PS2 has a bigger game library but 3/4ths of the games were crap and i wouldn't spend a dime on them much less 75 canadian dollars! The XB360 will destroy PS3 because most of the games MS puts out on XBOX r fairly good. And halo 3 will deffinatly sell some XB360's.

p.s ne1 know if the xb360 will b backwards compatible?

 

look dudes i hate to burst your bubble about the ps3 but the xbox 360 has a graphics card like no other the has 48 pipelines atis pc graphics has 16 . 16 * 3 =48 one for each processor in other words it has three freaking graphics card inside it did i mention that 360 has a camera that will allow you to actualy put your face in a game and games like gotham racing 3 wich has gothamtv you should check this out man im ive studied this thing and ive found a few of microsofts next marketing hammers you guys fell for the hype at e3 the 700 mhz main system ram ive read is far smaller then normal ram makeing it far faster and cooler then normal ram the hardware in the 360 is harder to market then they maid the ps3 but the ps3 had to one up the 360 to stay alive thear fighting for market share
but the bench marks in this sucker are gonna be close it wouldnt surpise if the 360 turned out to be faster. they looked at the 3.2 ghz
ram . they turned it down for a reason
gonna be pretty close

 

Reasons: To be fair, you should state that both the 360 and the PS3 will only use one or two threads... It has nothing to do with leading up to the 840, though. It's more just the fact that Multi-Threaded processing has only been used in higher end server applications to date, not games. Developers are going to need some time to learn how to program for the new environment. Of course, the article also implies that there is a steeper learning curve for Dev's on the Cell (which is pretty much a given, these days) so most of it's power will remain locked away for awhile...

mustafa69: We will assume that your talking about DVD sizes, since the 360 has a 20GB HDD & PS3 0GB...
The reason is simple... MS has stated that they will wait until the format war is decided before they do something. They will release newer versions/upgrades when everyone knows which way the market is going. Sony is using the BR-DVD in hopes of forcing consumers to adopt it's format and therefor win the format war by default...

 

im getting ps3 becasue i know it wiill last longer.it will take them a long time to tap the cells full potential.a new xbox will come out before ps4 and i dont wanto waste my money on a system that will last 3 years.

 

M.L.: Do you have a link that says the 360 is only going to go for three years? I'd swear that both companies have said they are planning for 5 years.

 

well.its probably going to happen.sorry i should have stated that what i said was a prediction.xbox only lasted a little while and xbox 360 was rushed.

cnet says they are targeted to have a 5 year life cycle as u said.

http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+launch+gets+jump+on+rivals/2100-1043_3-5705436.html