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Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by solargame, May 12, 2005.

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  1. xboxfool

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    y u say that?
     
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    In an interview with TheStreet.com, Take-Two Interactive CEO Paul Eibeler tells the online publication that the home for the next Grand Theft Auto installment has yet to be determined.
    Eibeler told TheStreet that the company is taking a "wait-and-see" attitude to the market and will study it to see whether an exclusive deal will benefit the company.

    The Grand Theft Auto franchise is a monster series that has sold over 40 million units worldwide. The last three installments were locked in exclusive agreements to debut on Sony's Playstation 2, helping the company acheive a dominant position in the last video game wars. The titles were eventually released to Microsoft's Xbox and PC.

    An exclusive deal with a console manufacturer to debut the next installment could be a major factor in next-generation console sales. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are all striking deals to have games appear only on their next-generation systems in order to secure games that can't be played on rival systems.

    Pubishers will take a more careful approach to development in the next video game wars. As development costs skyrocket in the competitive game market, sales are far from guaranteed and publishers must devote resources wisely. Midway recently announced that it would have launch titles for the Playstation 3 but not the Xbox 360, although the company does have titles in development for Microsoft's next-generation machine.

    As for when Take-Two will release the next Grand Theft Auto, Take-Two's Eibler said that the company has not yet announced one and that they are still enjoying the sales of San Andreas.
    http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=902
     
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    to reasons?: i'd believe all of that. It sounds very sony and MS respectively.
     
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    That's nice, I thought it was a real building for a second.

    I think Sony will do it, if MS won't make a windows for it. It's their style.

    Wow, another nub. Am I blind or did he say the the SPEs were "mini something" and 1GHz. In a sense they are mini compared to the PPE, but that's hardly a word someone older than 10 would use to describe them. They run at 3.2GHz. The specs shouldn't even have to tell you that, they are going to match the PPE either way, and the PPE is 3.2GHz.
     
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    Just to clarify, Reasons... Are you saying that Sony will make a windows for the PS3 if MS won't?
     
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    I've been reading people's opinions on which new system will be better and I have my own opinion of some of the issues. From what I know ps3 has shown their full hand already and held nothing back as far as graphic and speed capability. Xbox 360 on the other hand is not completely done, the graphics are actually better than what they've shown so far and they may change some things for the final product. Plus most of the trailers i've seen for xbox 360 are in-game, which means thats what it will really look like. On the other hand ps3 has been showing mostly movie trailers and it is always true that the graphics in the real game play aren't as good as the movie trailers. As far as game library, people are leaving out a lot of good games. There's more than just Halo although Halo on its own should be enough. I'm pretty sure all of the Splinter Cell's are amazing and of course there's more. Not to mention every sports game that comes out usually is on both consoles. As far are games that are on both pc and the xbox, it comes down to a matter of opinion. I actually prefer playin halo, doom 3, and morrowind on the xbox over the pc.

    I own all the current systems and to this day prefer xbox, and i will stick by that with the new xbox 360. Deep down I'm actually a Nintendo fan and always have been, I hope someday they catch up. Zelda all the way.
     
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    I've been watching this forum closely since it's creation from the outside and I've finally decided to drop in my change and tell you how I feel about the 2 systems. It seems that both systems are running at nearly similar maximums, and in terms of numbers both seem to succeed where the other one fails and taking the current videos into consideration I'd have to say that they have all been created with devkits that mimic what the maximum possible outputs of the the system are. Sadly I'd have to say that we probably won't even be seeing 50% of that for quite a while, and in terms of the actual final product the devkits are far superior to it. Every system that has ever been created has boasted about amazing numbers before it was released and then it turns out the numbers aren't even half of what they originally thought they were going to be. So from an independent standpoint I'm going to have to say that it seems like Microsoft is purposefully running on currently standard computer technologies that I could see coming together, and Sony is working with experimental and unstable technologies that they hope to perfect before release. If I can, I'm going to buy both systems and I think that both of them will have their own great games, and people will end up buying multiple consoles for it. The only drawback I'm seeing is that I think I'll have to have my PS3 serviced a hell of alot more than my 360.
     
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    was that pic for the ps3 or the xb360? either way it was amazing fooled me at first into believing it was real.
     
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    That is Project Gotham Racing 3 running on a 360 Beta kit...
     
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    No, I was refering to screwing MS over with PSP connectivity. Sony can't make a windows for it, that was a dumb question. If they could make a windows for it they wouldn't be including Linux.
     
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    Hmmm, had i not known it wasn't real, i would have been fooled briefly, and although it does look good, it's not totaly real, i don't like the reflections in the windows...
     
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    zforester said:
    so you think MS claim that their alpha kits are running at 1/3 power of the final hardware is bs? Got anything to back up your claims?

    From what I have read the 360 dev kit is probably running a single conventional 3.2mhz dual threaded processor (probably an out of order processor rather than the in order processors in the final spec) with a graphics chip close to the final spec (but without the EDRAM and maybe with a reduced instruction set??). that probably translates to something over 50% (not the claimedd 1/3) of the final spec unless you can optimise use of the extra cores. But I don't think i can agree that the current 360 dev kits are superior to the final spec based on available information. otherwise you are just speculating based on past console releases which aren't necessarily indicative of the next generation.
     
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    The latter link/shot, looks to be less quality(graphics). Hmmm, I have a feeling some of the pics rolling around are pre-rendered, not real-time. The first one looks beautiful(like a picture...), the latter looks more down to earth compared with the demos on MTV and E3.
     
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    reaons: I think you mean #2 (from IGN who presumably sourced it from the devs) looks much better than #1 (from the developers website). who knows what we'll actually end up with. the marketing in this industry is out of control.
     
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    Well, both shots came from the developers website where they specifically state that these are in game shots.

    Now if your going to say that we can't believe the developers, then I'd like to submit my claim now the UT2007 & Fight Night (as shown on the PS3) were not ingame footage...
     
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    I didn't think it was in-game either. The camera shots and movement made it obvious it wasn't gamplay. However, I think it was real-time off the PS3. And that's what it can look and play like, just not the crazy camera crap. That's not even playable with the camera flying around like that. Plus boxing games are gay anyways, they focus around a tiny ring and 20 fighters, sorry I'm not paying $50+ for that.
     
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    i agree with reasons, when a game mainly focus's on one thing like the mentioned boxing ring, of coarce the programmers are gonna make it look good.
     
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