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Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by solargame, May 12, 2005.

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  1. Grunt14

    Grunt14 Member

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    Hey i heard a bit of useless information today. That the power the ps3 is equivalent to 1% of the human brains power. Which is quite amazing when you think about what the future consoles, and computers will have to offer. And no this is not just a plug for the ps3, its just abit of interesting info.
     
  2. culoisass

    culoisass Guest

    Xbox and PS2 are losing money to there respecteble company'Z, but to the release of the PSP's iligaly.
    "Date: 31 Oct 2004 12:19:57
    From: pdaking
    Subject: Sony illegally Dumping PSP's

    "Sony has confirmed that it's PSP handheld console, due to go on sale in
    Japan on December 12, will cost only 19,800 yen (?100), a lot cheaper than
    most analysts predicted.

    The console, which has been cause for much speculation over its price will
    go up against Nintendo's latest handheld console - the DS.

    The price, which was expected to be a lot higher, means that Sony is
    unlikely to make a profit on the hardware for sometime, but it does mean
    that for the consumer getting the latest portable games console when it
    launches in the UK next year will be more affordable than ever.

    "First off, many people have been wondering how Sony is able to offer the
    PSP "at such a low price." The answer lies in its manufacture -- "close to
    50%" of the components of the PSP are Sony-made. Obviously, this includes
    most of your game components, such as the Emotion Engine. But what parts
    aren't? The LCD is an ASV LCD from Sharp. While that's the only company name
    mentioned, other "external" parts include the memory and wireless LAN LSI."
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    CORRECTION: Anybody believe this Sony corporate propaganda bullsh!t?!?

    WRONG, what this means is that Sony is planning to illegally dump their
    products
    at a loss of $200 dollars or more per game console. and to make matters
    worse
    all of the components in a PSP were made by the Sony pretatory monopoly in
    Japan. So tell me how this is good for the world or for free kets?

    PDA's, Tapwave Zodiac, Gameboy, GP32, any handheld device you can think
    is being illegally targeted by Sony. If sony sold their PSP at their cost
    it would
    cost the same as a PDA or a Tapwave, $400-500 dollars.

    Sony is illegally targeting all of the hundreds of companies that make
    components
    for these devices, and offer them CHEAPER than sony due to their larger
    economy of scale.


    "Dumping: The practice of selling goods abroad below their normal ket
    value or below the price charged for the same goods in the domestic ket
    of the exporting country. Dumping can be a predatory trade practice whereby
    the international ket, or a certain national ket, is flooded with
    dumped
    goods in order to force competitors out of the ket and establish a
    monopoly
    position. Oftentimes, government subsidies are used to help absorb
    temporarily
    the losses caused by predation, leading to friction among trade partners.
    Dumping and predation are considered to be unfair trade practices and, as
    such, are prohibited under many national trade laws. "

    Furthermore, Sony actually pays more to develop their own components.
    Tell me how much does it cost to have your own chip fabriabtion facility,
    and R&D to support it, and all the overhead involved? This costs billions
    and billions of dollars... Sony is lieing these costs... They are
    losing subtantially more money per unit than $200 dollars if you factor
    this overhead into the equation, considering they are not selling
    enough chips from their own fabriation plants to offset the cost.
    In fact the Sony componets are actually more expensive than the industry
    standard due to this." http://www.pda-forum.com/palm/Sony_illegally_Dumping_PSPs_326525.html
     
  3. Grunt14

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    Hey culoisass, i dont know what the hell this has to do with this thread. I think maybe you spend to much time looking into things and maybe might wanna consider a hobby( stamp collecting?)
     
  4. Alien13

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    yeah lol.
     
  5. velascoj2

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    Hummm!???
     
  6. AtariBorn

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    See culoisass, that's what you get when you have too many windows open, you replay to the wrong thread. Maximize!
     
  7. Toiletman

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    Hurrah for ignoring my post.
     
  8. Grunt14

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    What post?, and how do i put a picture with my signiture?, and did anyone see my reply bout the brain thing?
     
  9. Grunt14

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    I thought it was quite good!
     
  10. 00Gravity

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    hey, did ya'll know that the ps3 is twice as powerful as the xbox 360?

    I bet you did, but did u know that the xbox 360 has its 100% power while the ps3 only has 30% of it's power... the ps3 has only about 1/5 of the 360's memory, so how is the ps3 better? sony might release the ps3 summer of next year. See that zinn guy said that sony lies a lot, maybe y'all should listen to him. plus, why is sony trying to out do ms in graphics and online play when ms use to make computers and has been around longer than sony. Maybe you sfb's (sony fan boy's) are mistaken.... I know the 360 will be $400 this holiday year. and ps3 will try to drop their system's price to $350, so not only might they be late for arrival, but they also might end up going bankrupt!!! Now who has the better system?

    PS: anymore sfb's out there should reply and tell me why you still want the ps3... and i can tell why you shouldn't get it
     
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  11. 00Gravity

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    hey flip, can we say hell and piss.... I see how you kind of booted zinn of for saying dorks. or can we say it but not be mean to anybody except the companies we're talking about. why did you boot zinn off, he seemed to be on his p's and q's until he insulted someone. so can we curse? and who else got booted


     
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  12. steve7777

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but Xbox 360 will come out before christmas and PS3 will not, right? Well I can imagine that Xbox will pull in mega sales as it will be the only console available at the time. As long as Xbox 360 is decent, people will be recommending their friends to purchase Xbox well before PS3 releases.

    2nd. Does PS3 indeed have blue-ray disc reader? This poses two problems:
    1- I understand that the two rival formats are trying to come to a compromise. Blue-ray is not YET the champion, though it is belived by many that it will come out on top.

    2- In the past, how much does new technology cost when it first comes out? Blue-ray will most likely not be any diffrent from previous technologies. Xbox pricing is reasonnable. With the addition of the Blue-ray reader, I can easily imagine the price of the PS3 going up in turn.

    Simply put, I belive that the PS3 would have to be REALLY good in order, not to compete, but to steal away already loyal Xbox owners.

    Regards,

    steve7777
     
  13. culoisass

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    Grunt14 (Newbie) 23. May 2005 @ 04:17
    Hey culoisass, i dont know what the hell this has to do with this thread. I think maybe you spend to much time looking into things and maybe might wanna consider a hobby( stamp collecting?)
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    it was to should that PS3 might not even come out. if it cant come out then it cant bet the xbox360
     
  14. philipman

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    yes what does that have to do with ps3 vs xbox?
     
  15. flip218

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    @00Gravity,

    No problem with that.

    I mentioned twice already to play nice. No need for name calling. This type of debate can tend to get out of hand, and there is no need to flame on anybody. Every body is entitled to their opinion(s).

    I subscribed to this thread early, so I had a chance to read from the beginning. It could have gotten out of hand really fast.

    Again, everybody is gonna have their own opinion .... their is nothing wrong with that. There is just no need to flame or to call people names.

    And if zinn would have been following along, he would have seen my posts :)
     
  16. velascoj2

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    00Gravity, I'm wandering, you must be between 16 to 19 years of age? am I right? Your claims that the 360 twice the performance of Ps3 are futile since you have not backed up any of your claims with any real facts. 360/ 100% while Ps3/ 30%?! I'd like to read the factual sheets you have been reading because they seem to be contradicting the official statements revealed on then matter. Maybe Perhaps your aunt at sony told you so, but I dare to say she did not ( but I could be wrong and maybe so, but I'll take the risk anyway). I'm not here to insult you however I'll suggest that when posting a statement you back it up with some kind of realistic fact for us the non inform learn more from your proven knowledge.

    From someone who wants to lerean the truth!
    excuse my grammar
     
  17. culoisass

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    i dont like the new xbox360 and the PS3 contrllers, the xbox had great contrllers

    Final controller details :

    First the image ( provided under the fair use act by wikipedia):


    Looks simple plays sophisticated I bet its gaming capabilities are amazing.

    For all those critics:
    - Design does not look plastically and cheap.
    - The intergration of the controls around the central logo is fantastic.

    Details of the controller :
    - The Xbox 360 logo in the centre of the controller can be pressed to bring the console out of sleeping mode ( Yes , It can sleep ).
    - It is a wireless controller.
    - The Xbox 360 console will support 4 wireless controllers.
    - It will also have 3 other USB slots for other controllers.
    - Controllers are compatible on Longhorn.
    - Controllers that are wired have a 9 foot cord.
    - Like the old console these controls can also detach .
    - Intergrated button to straight away activate Xbox Live Menu.
    - The 360 Xbox logo has 4 numbers around it . These four numbers indicate the port the controller is using.
    - Little black and white buttons move to back of controller behind left and right triggers.

    Yes , The controller(s) can really do all of that.
    http://microsoftxbox360.info/index.php?paged=2
     
  18. 00Gravity

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    well, i'm 13, a very intellectual 13 year old who will be taking algebra next year. but anyway, my friend michael showed me an article that showed the power of the 360 and ps3, look it up or something. Tommorrow i'll try to find out what the name of it was, and steve7777 was correct. the xbox 360 does have a better chance of selling. kinda like the ds and the psp. the ds sold more because it came out around christmas. and the ds was sold out. i haven't seen the psp hasn't been sold out once.


    So we all agree that the 360 is better right?
     
  19. 2kwic

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    To tell you the truth Zinn jr you sound just like him. think you know it all but you don't. do you own anyone of the systems? NOPE so how would you know about the power? O wait it must be what you read huh or your aunt work for MS to. Man please don't write stuff that you don't know about i love this site and i give and get true advice and information all the time but if your going to put false info like your buddy zinn then don't even write please for the sake of the readers

    P.S don't take this in a mean way i wouldn't want you to be inactive
     
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  20. velascoj2

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    Ok, You don't have to find the specs I'm very familiar with them as most of the systems created since Atari 2600 from the 80's. Xbox will do very good since it has the edge of being released a few months before sony. Sony has more japanese develpers than xbox and still dominating the american market. Usually japan tend to have better game programer (for now, but that's changing slowly). Sony probably will do great on the new system due to the "it" factor that gained from the 32bit area. But it is very smart of ms trying to entince the younger generation since thats a good way to create awareness for their system and ultimately creating demand and ultimately revenue to them. I viewed all tree systems and yes some are more attarctive than other but overall all them look good on stetics.Raw Power base the Ps3 has a minor advantage over 360 based on ACTUAL OFFICIAL DATA released from both companies (Sorry to burst anyones bubble about the written specs facts) but yltimately we will se once the systems are released with quality games. Then youll know which system will dominate.
     
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