AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter function differently. As we know, AnyDVD is a driver type that breaks the encryption by working in the background. DVD Decrypter rips the decrypted files to the HD. I ran into the bad sector problem mentioned running AnyDVD and Decrypter on a couple of movies. Simple solutions, turn the AnyDVD off or use another app to rip the files. There are a couple of reasons for running AnyDVD and Decrypter together. One is because in some instances AnyDVD has solved encryption problems before Decrypter. Also, since I like using HD files, and in some cases are necessary, I needed the Decrypter to rip to the HD. Shrink set to No Compression is a handy ripper with AnyDVD (rips at about the same speed as Decrypter). Lately though, Lightning UK has been keeping the Decrypter up to date quickly, so running the AnyDVD along with it isn't necessary. However, AnyDVD is set to run on startup as a default setting. Nice they worked the bugs out. I still have a tendency to let AnyDVD and Decrypter run at the same time, haven't been having any problems of late and it doesn't hurt anything. I have more than enough RAM to handle both. For those who like to keep putting off a purchase of retail apps. The big reason for purchase is because they make things easier. In the case of software, freeware can often do a task. In the case of AnyDVD it makes the copying process easier. Example, Shrink's decryption software is obsolete. Running AnyDVD along with Shrink has it copying like Shrink was intended. No need to rip with Decrypter and then Shrink. Also, AnyDVD decrypts for any software that needs it. With DVD5 movies, I simply use AnyDVD and use the burner app to burn the copy. The backup takes little longer than the burn time. So, just because one can use a ripper like DVD Decrypter and get the job done, AnyDVD can make the job easier in many cases. As noted AnyDVD also functions differently and is essential if one has an app that will record on the fly and the user wants to use that function. Recode2 and DVDCopy3 readily come to mind. I consider both DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD to be essential programs if one is going to backup a lot of diffent movies using different encoding/transcoding software. Another point is that AnyDVD often has encryption systems solved before other programs. It's retail, so they should. So, there are a number of reasons to purchase AnyDVD. The only reason I can think not to have it is because one can work at it and get a copy of a movie using freeware. DVD43 is the freeware program similar to AnyDVD. You can ask anyone who has experience with both, the retail AnyDVD is the better of the 2. If I was worried about free all the time, I doubt I would have bought a PC, a burner, and media. I consider retail software just another small investment to enjoy using my PC. Don't get me wrong, I still use DVD Decrypter often and I still use Shrink for utilities. I just like having the right app to do particular tasks. In the end I find Jerry746 stated part of the situation well. Keep the software up to date. To that I add, use the best software available for a task. Spanglish doesn't appear to be any more of a problem than the past ARccOS encrypted movies. Different software combinations and different procedures by users often deliver the different results obtained by various users. One thing a lot of people may not know, during the transcoding process, DVD Shrink corrects minor structural problems created by "bad sector" encryption. So, often using Shrink as a ripper or as a transcoder while breaking the encryption with AnyDVD will do a good job. I've noticed in some cases where DVD Decrypter will rip the file, but still leave the structural problem created by the bad sector encryption. As I stated earlier, I prefer in cases like that, to use the AnyDVD with the Shrink instead of repeating the process.
not sure why anydvd is needed. I ripped with dvddecrypter, shrank with shrink, and burned. no problem.
I had this happen on serveal attemps which I checked with Power DVD 6 Deluxe before(Saves on Coasters)burning them. I come to the conclusion that I was dealing with a bad batch of disks.... Check this thread to read about that http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/5/173741 I too was using the latest software available. I personally belive that the problem I ran into is at the Dual Layer Change On most of the bad ones I found so far......... Now that is not to say that others have not copied it, because it has been copied by many.
I read on another site that some were getting that black screen playback from an original purchased dvd of Spanglish. So if its possible to get it from an original I can see it happening with some ripped versions also. I never ran into the conflict with Decrypter and Anydvd because I don't believe its necessary to run both at the same time. One or the other should be able to decrypt by themselves so I never ran them together. I stated in one of my other posts somewhere that I haven't found a dvd yet that Clonedvd 2 and Anydvd working together could not copy and that is still correct for the dvds I have done. I'm not saying this to try to sell these 2 programs, its just my opinion and first choice for backups. What ever works for someone you need to stick to that system. The bad pressings are getting to be too regular so everyone needs to be aware that this can happen with a new dvd straight out of the box. If your backup process has worked in the past and you changed nothing then think about a possible defective original. If you think its a new encryption but read that many members are having success with the backup using the programs available, then its not new encryption. This is what I was trying to get across at the beginning of this thread. Jerry
Ok guys - I borrowed another copy of Spanglish and ripped it with Decrypter, resized with Shrink and burned with Nero. Same result. Black screen to start with. If I click to move ahead to the next chapter it starts at chapter 3. I can then re-wind back to the beginning to view the entire movie. On the Decrypter forum, they suggested I set everything on my Decrypter to 'default'(I had it on 'brute force') which I did. Made no difference. This is the only movie I've had this happen with. Luckily, I burned this one to a re-writable so nothing is lost. I still don't know why this movie is a problem however. Here's the logfile from decrypter: 15:54:05 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started! I 15:54:05 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 15:54:05 Initialising SPTI... I 15:54:05 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 15:54:05 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW! W 15:55:23 Possible Structure Protection Found! W 15:55:23 8 areas have been marked as 'suspect'. W 15:55:23 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary. I 15:55:25 Operation Started! I 15:55:25 Source Device: [1:1:0] SONY CD-RW CRX320E NYK5 (E (ATA) I 15:55:25 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM I 15:55:25 Source Media Region Code: 1 I 15:55:25 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM I 15:55:25 Source Media Implementation Identifier: SONY DVD Video I 15:55:25 Destination File: C:\DVD_VIDEO.ISO I 15:55:25 File Splitting: Auto I 15:55:25 Remove Structure Protection: No I 15:55:25 Bad Sector Removal Method: Normal I 15:55:25 Detect Mastering Errors: No I 15:55:25 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes I 15:55:25 Extracting Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 4169919) I 15:56:42 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 184950 - 184962) I 15:56:42 Found VOB File: VIDEO_TS.VOB - (LBA: 184982 - 195314) - KEY: C0 75 9C A2 09 I 15:56:46 Found BUP File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - (LBA: 195318 - 195330) I 15:56:46 Found IFO File: VTS_01_0.IFO - (LBA: 195350 - 195358) I 15:56:46 Found VOB File: VTS_01_0.VOB - (LBA: 195359 - 195375) - KEY: C0 75 9C A2 09 I 15:56:46 Found VOB File: VTS_01_1.VOB - (LBA: 195376 - 267296) - KEY: C0 75 9C A2 09 I 15:57:12 Found BUP File: VTS_01_0.BUP - (LBA: 267297 - 267305) I 15:57:12 Found IFO File: VTS_02_0.IFO - (LBA: 267306 - 267314) I 15:57:12 Found VOB File: VTS_02_0.VOB - (LBA: 267315 - 267331) - KEY: D5 CA 6F 01 9D I 15:57:12 Found VOB File: VTS_02_1.VOB - (LBA: 267332 - 281881) - KEY: D5 CA 6F 01 9D I 15:57:17 Found BUP File: VTS_02_0.BUP - (LBA: 281882 - 281890) I 15:57:17 Found IFO File: VTS_03_0.IFO - (LBA: 281891 - 281899) I 15:57:17 Found VOB File: VTS_03_0.VOB - (LBA: 281900 - 281916) - KEY: CD 7E 37 B9 91 I 15:57:17 Found VOB File: VTS_03_1.VOB - (LBA: 281917 - 326546) - KEY: CD 7E 37 B9 91 I 15:57:32 Found BUP File: VTS_03_0.BUP - (LBA: 326547 - 326555) I 15:57:32 Found IFO File: VTS_04_0.IFO - (LBA: 326556 - 326564) I 15:57:32 Found VOB File: VTS_04_0.VOB - (LBA: 326565 - 326581) - KEY: C8 28 A8 F6 87 I 15:57:32 Found VOB File: VTS_04_1.VOB - (LBA: 326582 - 364651) - KEY: C8 28 A8 F6 87 I 15:57:44 Found BUP File: VTS_04_0.BUP - (LBA: 364652 - 364660) I 15:57:44 Found IFO File: VTS_05_0.IFO - (LBA: 364661 - 364669) I 15:57:45 Found VOB File: VTS_05_0.VOB - (LBA: 364670 - 364686) - KEY: CB DC C0 57 F9 I 15:57:45 Found VOB File: VTS_05_1.VOB - (LBA: 364687 - 420049) - KEY: CB DC C0 57 F9 I 15:58:02 Found BUP File: VTS_05_0.BUP - (LBA: 420050 - 420058) I 15:58:02 Found IFO File: VTS_06_0.IFO - (LBA: 420059 - 420067) I 15:58:02 Found VOB File: VTS_06_0.VOB - (LBA: 420068 - 420084) - KEY: D4 9F A9 83 8D I 15:58:02 Found VOB File: VTS_06_1.VOB - (LBA: 420085 - 468214) - KEY: D4 9F A9 83 8D I 15:58:17 Found BUP File: VTS_06_0.BUP - (LBA: 468215 - 468223) I 15:58:17 Found IFO File: VTS_07_0.IFO - (LBA: 468224 - 468273) I 15:58:17 Found VOB File: VTS_07_0.VOB - (LBA: 468274 - 654170) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2 I 15:59:11 Found VOB File: VTS_07_1.VOB - (LBA: 654171 - 1178457) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2 W 15:59:18 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 662362 - 670537) I 15:59:19 Extracting Sectors... I 16:01:29 Found VOB File: VTS_07_2.VOB - (LBA: 1178458 - 1702744) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2 I 16:03:19 Found VOB File: VTS_07_3.VOB - (LBA: 1702745 - 2227031) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2 I 16:04:57 Found VOB File: VTS_07_4.VOB - (LBA: 2227032 - 2751318) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2 I 16:06:40 Found VOB File: VTS_07_5.VOB - (LBA: 2751319 - 3106593) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2 I 16:07:59 Found BUP File: VTS_07_0.BUP - (LBA: 3106594 - 3106643) I 16:08:36 Found IFO File: VTS_08_0.IFO - (LBA: 3258727 - 3258752) I 16:08:36 Found VOB File: VTS_08_0.VOB - (LBA: 3258753 - 3258769) - KEY: C6 D8 91 FF 0F I 16:08:36 Found VOB File: VTS_08_1.VOB - (LBA: 3258770 - 3764846) - KEY: C6 D8 91 FF 0F I 16:10:55 Found VOB File: VTS_08_2.VOB - (LBA: 3764847 - 3837440) - KEY: N/A W 16:11:03 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 3768944 - 3837440) I 16:11:05 Extracting Sectors... I 16:11:05 Found BUP File: VTS_08_0.BUP - (LBA: 3837441 - 3837466) I 16:11:05 Found IFO File: VTS_09_0.IFO - (LBA: 3837467 - 3837479) I 16:11:06 Found VOB File: VTS_09_0.VOB - (LBA: 3837480 - 3837496) - KEY: CE A8 12 9C 4E I 16:11:06 Found VOB File: VTS_09_1.VOB - (LBA: 3837497 - 4064276) - KEY: CE A8 12 9C 4E I 16:12:30 Found BUP File: VTS_09_0.BUP - (LBA: 4064277 - 4064289) I 16:12:30 Found IFO File: VTS_10_0.IFO - (LBA: 4064290 - 4064299) I 16:12:30 Found VOB File: VTS_10_0.VOB - (LBA: 4064300 - 4064316) - KEY: CF 82 44 8A 78 I 16:12:30 Found VOB File: VTS_10_1.VOB - (LBA: 4064317 - 4143317) - KEY: CF 82 44 8A 78 I 16:13:03 Found BUP File: VTS_10_0.BUP - (LBA: 4143318 - 4143327) I 16:13:03 Found IFO File: VTS_11_0.IFO - (LBA: 4143328 - 4143336) I 16:13:03 Found VOB File: VTS_11_0.VOB - (LBA: 4143337 - 4143353) - KEY: C0 7E 6E D0 7C I 16:13:03 Found VOB File: VTS_11_1.VOB - (LBA: 4143354 - 4169345) - KEY: C0 7E 6E D0 7C I 16:13:14 Found BUP File: VTS_11_0.BUP - (LBA: 4169346 - 4169354) I 16:13:14 Found IFO File: VTS_12_0.IFO - (LBA: 4169355 - 4169363) I 16:13:14 Found VOB File: VTS_12_1.VOB - (LBA: 4169365 - 4169627) - KEY: C2 B4 93 EE 99 I 16:13:14 Found BUP File: VTS_12_0.BUP - (LBA: 4169628 - 4169636) I 16:13:14 Found IFO File: VTS_13_0.IFO - (LBA: 4169637 - 4169645) I 16:13:14 Found VOB File: VTS_13_1.VOB - (LBA: 4169647 - 4169909) - KEY: C5 C1 36 7A C9 I 16:13:14 Found BUP File: VTS_13_0.BUP - (LBA: 4169910 - 4169918) I 16:13:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:17:49 I 16:13:14 Average Read Rate: 7,801 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Read Rate: 16,180 KB/s (11.7x) Any feedback? Len
I realize this isnt about spanglish, however I believe your 50/50 theory could be a direct relation to 24 as well. I myself couldnt get spanglish to burn or copy along with closer. So I got the new update to dvd43 and right away closer burned no problem. After another shot at spanglish it still wasnt working so i got another copy from blockbuster and vualla (if thats correct spelling?)...which leads me to my next problem... I am looking for help in regards to the TV series 24. I have tried burning the second and third seasons with little success. The odd part is that on both seasons the first two discs of the six total burned to perfection, however discs 3-6 on both seasons fail over and over. Now, recently as I was trying to burn some other movies those failed as well, so I went to www.dvd43.com and downloaded the new updates. This solved my problems for sideways and closer, however my dilema with 24 and the most important of them all, is still at hand. I started burning dvd's with dvd43 and 1 click copy and have never had any problems. Now 24 and a couple other new movies are bringing me problems. I am curious as to all these other softwares and how to burn TV seasons. I have read something about making it 2 episodes per disc and 12 discs total? I have also received an error message when trying to start the copy on dvd43 which states, "unable to open the movie file VIDEO_TS.IFO, this file is damaged or missing." All in all, I am very confused, I can see this is a problem for many and have read a couple comments on 24 specificly, but am unsure which road of recommendation to take, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. m@
I tried several progams to copy this movie with no luck..my last resort is going to be intervideo..it usually works where others won't.
@S2K That sort of covered a good part of reasons. http://www.slysoft.com AnyDVD is a driver, which descrambles DVD-Movies automatically in the background. This DVD appears unprotected and region code free for all applications and the Windows operating system as well. With AnyDVD's help copy tools like CloneDVD, Pinnacle Instant Copy, InterVideo DVD-Copy, etc. are able to copy CSS protected Movies. With the help of AnyDVD you can watch movies with non matching region codes with every DVD Player Software you like! AnyDVD decrypts not just DVDs: AnyDVD allows you also to play, copy and rip protected Audio CDs! I'm not advertising for AnyDVD, I just think it's handy enough that the members should know what it is. Most of us know what DVD Decrypter is capable of. As I said, I have both. AnyDVD was especially handy when none of the other rippers had been updated to properly handle the ARccOS encryption. AnyDVD is consistently the first to be updated (they're paid well to do so). If you're happy with just DVD Decrypter and it fills your needs, then there is absolutely no reason to purchase AnyDVD. Slysoft has a 3 week trial for anyone wanting to try out the AnyDVD. Use the link posted above. There are reasons, not being free turns some people off. Having the right software makes doing movies like Spanglish a lot easier. Having the latest version of DVD Decrypter and/or AnyDVD goes a long way in insuring good results. DVDInfoPro is another good freeware program. Since there are more questionable discs showing up, DvdInfoPro can be used to check those discs for errors. http://www.dvdinfopro.com There are other tools, Nero contains some disc utilities.
Jerry746 I heard there was a problem with Grudge and Resident Evil 2 when trying to record the entire disc with CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD. Doing movie only solved the movie backup with a lot of software. But a lot of people complained when doing the entire disc. Seems, Arccos, puppetlock, bad sectors and the structure protection was causing the programs not to function properly.
I was unable to copy Spanglish until I upgraded to AnyDVD 4.6.3.1 and CloneDVD 2.7.5.1. I did hear that the industry was going to start using new encryption methods on DVDS. I think the upgrades on Decrytption software may start becoming more frequent then usual.
Deac22 Slysoft with the AnyDVD has been doing a lot of updating recently to keep up with the minor changes going on with encryption. They've been staying ahead in the game much better than most ripper software. Lightning UK is doing an exceptional job with his freeware DVD Decrypter. He was only a bit behind SlySoft in updating. However, for a while, DVD Decrypter was using patches in order to rip some entire DVDs for copying.
what's going on people? i remember RE2 that was a problem movie. not spanglish, i have a cheap computer,use only the cheappest media and i was able to rip spanglish twice 1) decrypter(free) and shink nero to burn; 2) 1click dvd copy and dvdfree(free)in the background.
There goes a big vote toward Spanglish being easy. IClickDVDCopy is a poor transcoder. I tried it with Grudge and when it hit the bad sectors, it just set there for a couple of hours. I tired of keeping tabs on it and turned it off. For doing movie only, it appears to work okay, but the video quality isn't as good as some of the better transcoders, the free DVD Shrink included. @elizerroj Did you backup the entire disc or just the movie only?
good point brobear i did both copies using movie only maybe that is the key. set decrypter to movie only.
Hi Brobear, I didn't have a problem with either Grudge or RE2 but I do edit most of my movies. I start Clone like I'm doing a full disc backup but then edit all trailers and some of the extras. All I end up with is the working menu, main movie and some extras if they interest me. Everything else goes. That may be why I didn't have any problems. But I do this with all my backups. I check each line of data that Clone lists and if its junk I don't want, I uncheck that line. My first backup program was X Copy Express, then moved on to Shrink which can't be beat for the price and now only use Clonedvd and Anydvd. I've tried several other programs but keep coming back to Clone/Anydvd. Besides I like watching the sheep eat popcorn. Jerry
elizerroj Try recording on the fly with DVDCopy3, CloneDVD2, or Recode2 using DVD Decrypter. As I said, they are different type programs, one is a background driver decryption tool and the other decrypts while ripping to the HD. There is a use for both. Most good transcoder/encoder programs that will record on the fly will use HD files as well. Once again it just boils down to ease of use and how one wants to accomplish the task. For some it is a matter of cost. Jerry, Yep, popcorn and movies go together. It is likely you edited out your problems. A lot of people that edit a lot or go for the movie only didn't realize there could be a problem. On most DVDs I go for the entire disc. I've found DVDCopy3 does an excellent job at high compression. As long as the quality level is 2 or above, I never worry about the video quality. When I want the best quality I go with RB/CCE. CCE Basic costs about $50 and the RB is betaware. So, RB/CCE ends up being much cheaper than most transcoder apps. It uses HD files, so all is needed is DVD Decrypter to rip and a burner program to burn the finished output. CCE offers an SP trial that works with RB, so a person can check it out before buying. Plenty of RB/CCE threads on the forum. http://www.intervideo.com is the link for DVDCopy3. There is a full function Platinum trial for those who might want to try it. This one works on the fly with AnyDVD or uses the ripped files from DVD Decrypter. By the way, I got AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 as a package some time back. The earlier CloneDVD2 versions didn't handle compression as well as other programs. They appear to have improved that some, but I still haven't gotten back to using it very often.
great advise thanks bro. what is ur opinon on dvdxcopy platinum, it's been great for me. great quality.
