overclocking amd 2800 athlon xp

i was thinking about memory, i have 1Gb standard ram but its running ok, maybe i should get some corsair or kingston, but will it make a whole lot of difference? the mobo only runs 400 unless i o/c which i can do in my bios (min 120 percent) but then will the board support the o/c ram, it could be a waste of money apart from tightening the timings but i dont think i can go any lower on these sticks ( i might get 2.5cas )

 

ohballz sorry man i forgot your from uk.. jjejeje.
about lighting in a case i have the raid maz scorpio black and i modded with lots of led fans(8 fan 80mm) love air cooling.

about memory look it really makes difference corsair xms or kingston hyper x, or ocz platinium.

the problem with generic ram is that they are not stable when you overclock them or most generic brands wont let you set manual memory settings but.. hey if yours are runnig stable with no problem dont spend more cash just leave it as it is because every thing you have is working fine!!!

remember ^^overclocking is not just about numbers^^

 

What about PNY or Ultra memory? Edit* After some extensive research I have concluded the problem is with my generic memory. Who has the best deals on memory?? I've been checking TigerDirect.com, anywhere else worth a look. Thanks.

 

8 FANS!! i see why your temps are so low, i just changed the CAS timing to 2.5 from 3 and have been running it for about 1.5hrs on prime95... seems fine. whats the best range of timings to get? i know its lower the better but just to know what to aim for. and do i have to up the mem voltage?

 

ohballz as you said lower the better but the target to get depends on memory brands there are low timing memory sticks(from corsair and kingston and other companies) like 5-2-2-2.5T i dont think generic memory can run on those low timings.

about memory voltage you only increase if you overclock your memory that generates more heat!! so if you are running your mem at stock values dont mess with that.

 

striker is true that memory is very important in overclocking stability.
let me recomend some of the most popular memorys for overclocking.
and tigerdirect is to xpensive and they take more than a week to deliver i recomend newegg.com many of us order from that store really fast 3 days..

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145452

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145451

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144113

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146895

CHECK THOSE memorys they are really good stuff!1
hope i help

 

Thanks for the info. I'll prob go with 1gig of HyperX.

 

thanx for the info, the latency is at 2.5 at the mo, i might try and get it lower, if i try and o/c my cpu anymore i might go with 1Gb of something fast, see new-egg have 1Gb corsair pc3200 for $84, that would be about £50 uk money, that sounds a bargain, and someone on the reviews got it to run at CAS 2.... any good??

 

LOWER THE BETTER!!

 

Hi,

i have an athlon xp2800 in a gigabyte GA7N-400 Pro2.

it runs at about 52 idle and 62 full load, with stock HSF combo.
from what i have been reading this is high, can someone confirm this for me.

i am using everest to check temps.

Thanks

 

hello brapuss welcome to this thread (the best in the whole afterdawn.com).

ok those temps are high for a non overclock procesor(if not)
normal temps are any number below 50Cº lower the better.
amd says tha xp2800 frying temp is up or past 85Cº but performance decrease with lower temps like 60´s so staying below 50C is aceptable.

one other thing always compare the temps from your mobo bios(which is more accurate) to the ones in the everest app your are reading them from..
the next is to try to lower those temps. few tips:

1-big tower case: with good air flow
2-case fans: either 80mm,120mm intake or exhaust that helps(i have 10)jejejeje.
3-if your case is smalltower try to remove the side panel that helps!
4-last consider the posibility to get a bigger heatsink and fan!
5-also applay some thermal grease like artic silver 5(in case you get another hsf)

hope i help

 

Brapuss,

Also...another word on heatsinks...if you get another heatsink/fan, try to find a heatsink made from copper. Copper will help keep your cpu cooler (along with arctic silver , so it will run better. Otherwise, I totally agree with all Dr.xp's recommendations.

 

thanks for your reply, i should have said a bit more about my setup.

a little more info on my part.

I currently have an 80mm vantec stealth in the front sucking and one in the back blowing out.
I also have an 80mm fan in my side cover that blows directly onto my CPU HSF.
With these fans i think i should be seeing lower temps.
I also have a gigbyte GA7N-400 PRO2 as my main board, i have heard that these boards will read 5-15 degrees higher than most, because they use the on-chip thermistor.
I am going to re-seat my hsf tonight with some arctic silver 5.
so i will see what happens.

once again thankyou for your reply.

 

ok,if your are planning to use artic silver and is your first time read instrucction before if you use it wrong way you can get higher temps(if you have used arsilv before discard this).

also see in gigabyte web page maybe theres a bios update to correct wrong temps reading.
let us know.

 

Dr.XP.

what should i be carefull of? i have read the instructions, put a thin layer directly on the cpu core.

i really want to fix this prob. thanks for your help

 

ok about artic silver 5:

1-remove with alcohol 95% or nail polish remover all the remains of the old thermal grease from the cpu core(use a cotton tip that tthing to clean ears) do it very softly and from the heat sink surface.

2-after removing all the grease fron cpu core,and hsink be sure theres no particules or fiber or even a finger print either on core or hsf.

3-you can applay a small drop in the middle of the cpu core when you put down the hsink it will spread in the surface.

**important to check both core and hsink to make sure there are no particles or fibers. applay small drop in the middle.
** artic silver suppose to work within the first 200 hours cycles

that means the arsilver must warm and then cool to room temp. dont get to crazy on that use your pc as you always do within day you´ll notice the results for me i cut 5-7Cº

let us know!!

 

so, i dont actually spread it myself??

on the web site it says to spread it all over the core with a blade edge or a credit card.

sorry if this is a dumb question.

 

Well, all i can say is "HELL YES"

i stripped it down, replaced the PSU with a 500w w/ 120mm fan, removed the crappy thermal pad that was on the HSF, replaced it with ARCTIC SILVER 5(i did it like on there web page), put my new Leadtek 6600GT 128 in, and installed an extra 1.0Gb of corsair pc3200 value ram(taking the total to 1.5Gb), put it all back together, installed the drivers and, HELL YES!!!!!!

Temp is 49C on stock cooler, so theres 7 degress reduction straight out !!!

just one thing the 5v rail is at 4.25 in everest, is this ok??

ps. thanks so much for your replys

 

7 Cº toll ya!!! and yes you can do it with a credit card or plastic or as i toll you..

glad i help