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overclocking amd 2800 athlon xp

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by rehmatt, Aug 17, 2004.

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  1. xMADMANx

    xMADMANx Member

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    hey,
    i was looking at upgrading my 2500+ to a 2800+ but after reading this fourm iam condsidering OC'ing the 2500 instead. my set up is:
    2500+
    asus a7n8x-x
    512mb pc2700 ram - (i assume i will have to upgrade this?) i plan on putting in 2 sticks 512 pc 3200 as soon as tomorow and selling the 2700 to a friend.
    stock cooling on cpu
    good case cooling
    temps on cpu around 32c - 37c (full load)

    let me know what i need to do as far as voltage. i understand how the fsb multiplyer works. also, do i HAVE to upgrade ram?
    thanks
     
  2. Molks

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    Hi Dr,

    I swapped that power supply for an older one I found. 200W that apparently can give higher sustained output than that other one. (I intend to replace it though!)

    On the cooling issue I use a Thermaltake volcano 8 that is noisy. I have temperatures that are around the 65 ish when fully loaded. (is that too high, I thought not?) I will buy some water components sometime.

    Mems are Nanya CL3 PC3200 (serial number ends -5T)
    M&S CL2.5 PC3200 (serial number ends -5B)

    They are both conf' in the bios to run CL3
    Should I expect to get 6-2-2-2
    instead of 7-3-3-3 ?

    You know of some good affordable powersupplies?


     
  3. Dr.xp

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    hello molks, 65cº is high for temp maniacs ( barton die temp is 85cº thats what amd said). it depend on how its performing.

    volcano v12 is an awosome cooler at high rpms ( if you dont mind the noise, if you think v8 is noisy wait until you hear the v12).
    or you can try the thermalrigth 101 is realy quiet
    remember to put a fan on that heat sink (92mms)

    http://www.coolerguys.com/840556031192.html

    about the power supply theres one from antec at:

    http://www.xoxide.com/antec-smartpower-sl350.html

    remember alternate cooling solution like case fans (80mm or 92 mms).

    about mems low values i beleive are better ( 6-2-2-2)
     
  4. OGK08

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    Hi Im am new to overclocking and heres is my default setup:

    Asus A7V600 MOBO
    Athon XP 2800+
    Kingston HyperX DDR Memory PC2800 444mhz
    ThermalTake Quiet somthing cant remember

    Can someone tell me what to set my settings to? I just want to get the highest speed for this processor thanks!
     
  5. OGK08

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    Ohh yah my total RAM is 500mb
     
  6. Dr.xp

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    madman xp 2500+ is the bes cpu for overclockers you can get it up to 3200+ with volcano 12 or water cooling. if you want to overclock keep it!!!
     
  7. Dr.xp

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    hi ogk08 athlon xp 2800+ (barton core) is lock from the factory(the multiplier). it runs at 2083mhz. you can start with small increase in external fsb (stock is 166mhz and a mult. 12.5 thats your cpu stock settings). overclocking is about trying and trying until you get the highest and stable settings.

    and of course the proper cooling because increasing your cpu setting will inc cpu temps.
    amd stock fan is any good for overc.

    advise try not to touch your vcore xp2800+ default vcore is 1.65volts max 1.8volt( but dont get it there). try to get application call cpu-z for monitoring cpu speed and settings.

    Dr.xp
    abit nf7
    athlon xp 2800+ ov to 2.2ghz on gigabyte 3d cooler
    (2x256) 512ddr pc-2700
    fx 5200 128ddr.
    7 case fans
     
  8. Molks

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    Thanks for the info Dr.xp,

    (that heatsink is a CPU watercooling block.. perhaps I will go for that)

    I will invest in a new supply.. (now to find prices)

    I am encouraged by kalunjoku's results. Tell me kalunjoku, what supply do you have, since your setup has similar power requirements to mine? (I also use a A7N8X but an -E)

     
  9. xMADMANx

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    what do you guys think about using a [bold]coolermaster aero 7 lite[/bold]? i can get it for practicly free with this computer i am building for work and just swap it into mine. also, my temps only hit 48 at full load with my core voltage at 1.725 (processor was running at 1.77mhz... i was trying to OC)that was with stock cooling, so i think this fan would be sufficent. (should keep me down under 45 at full) non OC i have temps in the low 30's

    dose that sound good to you guys?

    ***also would someone with a simular set up let me know what they changed (if anything) on there ram timings and such

    what i will have as of monday :)
    athlon 2500+
    1g corsair 400mhz ram
    asus a7n8x-x
     
  10. Dr.xp

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    MADMAN EVERY PRO OVERCLOCKER BASE ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WILL RECOMEND VOLCANO 12,WATER COOLING,THERMAL RIGHT 101 HS ETC..

    HERE IS A GOOD REVIEW ABOUT THE AEROCOOL 7 THEY EVEN TEST IT WITH YOUR SAME CPU OC AND NON OC SO CHECK IT OUT:

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/coolermasteraero7lite4.php

    Dr.xp
    ABIT NF7
    ATHLON XP 2800+ OC TO 2.2GHZ
    GIGABYTE 3D COOLER MAX SPEED 4400 RPMS (39Cº-46Cº) IDLE-LOAD.
    512 DDR DUAL CANNEL PC-2700
    MSI FX 5200 128 (SORRY FOR THAT!)
     
  11. OGK08

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    Dr. Xp here is my current settings

    Mulitplier locked at 12.5
    FSB = 200
    vcore = 1.8v
    CPU Temp = 62c
    2.50ghz

    Is there a way to unlock the multiplier?
     
  12. Dr.xp

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    OK YOUR VCORE 1.8 IS ON THE LIMITS AND THATS WHAT GOT YOUR CPU TO 62Cº (MOSTLY)

    BUT YOU NEED HIGH VOLTS TO COPE WITH HIGHER FSB
    2.5GHZ FOR XP2800 IS A LOT CAN BE A RECORD JEJEJEJE
    IS IT STABLE?? HAVE YOU RUN PRIME95 FOR STABILITY?

    IF IS STABLE IS OK. THOSE 62Cº THAT IS IDLE OR LOAD.
    IF IT IS IDLE YOU NEED ANOTHER HEATSINK THAN THE ONE YOU ARE USING RIGHT NOW.
     
  13. Dr.xp

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    I dont't know if its IDLE or LOAD?
    what is a program that tells me the temp while in load?
    Im am using a ThermalTake Silent Boost.
     
  15. Dr.xp

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    ogk look idle is when you are doing nottin on the pc,when it boot into win thats idle temp. load is when you run a heavy application like a game doom3,unrealtournament04, 3dmark03,3dmaRk01.n-bench thinks like that stress your cpu.

    prog to manage your temp asus have monitor prog for your mobo temps,or hmonitor,speedfan,mbm5 for example.
    and do as i do i run application and when finished i run the mobo monitor to check the temp..

    that heat sink of your is pretty standard for that overc cpu...
     
  16. aceprowl

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    Hey guys, I'm new here to this forum. Just wanted to give my details of my Overclocking.

    [bold]SYSTEM SPECT'S[/bold]:
    NF7-V2.0, 2800 barton 8th week. Stock fan, heat sink. 2x256MB 400MHz DDR PC3200. With a touch of a button in bios, my 2800(2.0ghz) = 3200 (2.2)@ 48'c. I'll show you here copied from Pc Wisard 2k4: I play online games all the time, and runs very stable, a heat increase of 2 to 3 degrees.

    Processor : AMD Athlon XP
    Frequency : 2194 MHz
    Support : Socket A
    Cache L1 : 128 Kb
    Cache L2 : 512 Kb
    Voltage : 1.62 V
    Processor Temperature : 47.5 °C
    Processor Fan : 1323 rpm

    O, I got the Chip off ebay about 5 months ago. Seeing that it was a unlocked chip, I grabbed it up! It runs 400fsb too. You can see my system spects on Glexcess as well. I didn't see anyone explain the week that a chip was made. Do a search online to see what week AMD caught on to oc'ing the barton, and when they locked the chip. Happy oc'ing buds.
     
  17. Dr.xp

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    aceprowl wolcome man! to the forums..

    man im a little confuse about your cpu sound to me is unlock cpu but 2800+ at 400fsb are you sure about that try to run cpu-z application to see the specs
    or theres an app in amd webpage to see cpu settings.

    hey!! 2800+ are getting popular!!! :O
     
  18. aceprowl

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    Hey, just got off playing Desert Combat final. Bf mod.
    Anyhow, I have sandra soft. So here are the spects of my 400fsb. Thanks though. Hey, I couldn't believe my eyes neither. I never oc'd it when I got it. Didn't have the money to get a new chip. But here you go.

    [bold]SiSoftware Sandra

    System
    Host Name : PC
    User : Jamie
    Domain : PC

    Processor
    Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+
    Speed : 2.08GHz
    Model Number : 2800 (estimated)
    Performance Rating : PR3016 (estimated)
    Type : Standard [/bold]
    L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

    Mainboard
    Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
    MP Support : No
    MP APIC : No
    System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
    Mainboard : http://www.abit.com.tw/ NF7-S/NF7,NF7-V (nVidia-nForce2)
    Total Memory : 511MB DDR-SDRAM

    Chipset 1
    Model : Abit Computer Corp nForce2 AGP Controller
    Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate)
    Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
    Memory Bus Speed : 2x 199MHz (398MHz data rate)

    [bold]SiSoftware Sandra

    System
    Host Name : PC
    User : Jamie
    Domain : PC

    Processor
    Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
    Speed : 2.19GHz
    Model Number : 3200 (estimated)
    Performance Rating : PR3181 (estimated)
    Type : Standard[/bold]
    L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

    Mainboard
    Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
    MP Support : No
    MP APIC : No
    System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
    Mainboard : http://www.abit.com.tw/ NF7-S/NF7,NF7-V (nVidia-nForce2)
    Total Memory : 511MB DDR-SDRAM

    Chipset 1
    Model : Abit Computer Corp nForce2 AGP Controller
    Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 199MHz (398MHz data rate)
    Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
    Memory Bus Speed : 2x 199MHz (398MHz data rate)
     
  19. teztouz

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    Poor guyz....OC rookies!
    well i'll give u a lil sumfin to drooooll about!
    how about An AXP 2800+ oc'd from 2.083 to 3.0 GHz ofcourse water cooled (thermaltake big water ($120))
    Active Cooled Memory (2*80mm Fanz)
    All the cooling kits mentioned about r UV reactive and modded to fit my needs ;p

    FSB 240
    Multiplier 12.5x
    Vcore 2.1
    Idle temp 35 C
    Load Temp 39 C
    Vmem 2.9
    memory timings : 2-2-2-5
     
  20. TCialek

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    Is it pretty stable?
     
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