Please Help..We Are Lost!!

nice set up gerry
the sub aint too bad, better then mine, yours drops down to 22hz... low low bass, but you also have 2 more inches then me (sub wise) hehe !!
klipsch has always sounded good......... but i am working on gettin a cheap pair of definitive technology towers from my friend and his klipsch bi polar surrounds........ for trade in labor i hope

 

Thanks guy; I'm really happy with it. I may buy a second identical sub though. I know deep bass is supposed to be nondirectional and so it is for the most part, but that other small part irritates me sometimes. Some say two subs are just plain overkill and some say that my active fronts are overkill and maybe that true for most things but not what I listen to. I listen to all sorts of music but I think I mentioned in another thread that I teach classical organ on the side. There isn't a synthasizer (I didn't spell that right I don't think) or bass guitar made that will produce the force and depth of a pipe organ...imagine the sound of blowing into a fifty foot tall coke bottle...they don't call them "bombarde pipes" for nothing! Anyway, it's hard to find a system that even comes close to proper reproduction. I know it makes no sense but my supposedly non directional bass seems to come too much from the right! (If you think I may have improper settings, please give me your opinion). Even the best electric organs made to sound like pipes always fail miserably in the bass. I'm sure it's not your taste in music but try some pipe organ CD in your system sometime; you'd be amazed at the bass.

I'll have to check out the speakers your hoping to work for (sure can't beat that deal!). I've heard the name but am unfamiliar. By "bi-polar" surrounds, do you mean bi-wired? If so, I'm surprised your Yammy can bi-amp surrounds...that's awesome. I can only bi-amp and bi wire my fronts.

I thought I'd mention something that might give you a bit of a chuckle. As I'm sure you know, it was Yamaha that pioneered DSP simulation and to this day they're better at it than anyone else. I have (and still use) one of their very first digital delay units from the late 1970s. I have it connected to the tape line outs of my Denon and from there running to an ancient 300watt SanSui (sansui actually made good amps back in the dark ages). Like the newest systems, it essentially took midranges and bounced the signal back in certain widths and depths in simulation of side and back walls (in the 70s, the called it "psychoacoustics"...a neat word. They did something in those ancient models that they never improved on but rather dropped altogether and I can't figure out why because it was so awesome: you ould adjust the DSP simulation much like the new models...you know, jazz club, concert hall, outdoor stadium etc...by manipulating the "delay" but the oldies also controlled the "decay" which was, essentially, a way to control the amount of time it took for the "delay" to fade out. Again, with my pipe organ stuff which anyone reading this must think I'm nuts listening to, it is so cool because it's like being in a real cathedral...you release the final notes or chord that your playing and you could regulate how much time it took for the sound to completely fade out. It was such a neat and very "real" effect that nobody has ever continued with. Oh well, I've rambled enough. I've posted a new threat asking about connecting a Comcast HD cable box video signal to an upconverter. Could you please read it and let me know if you have any suggestions? I posted it right here in the amps/receivers section. Thanks Boss!

 

i know the sound you talk of, pipe organ and such. our church we go to has one, and i know the 'feeling' of it too. the church we go to is rather large, stadium type, and (they put it up on the big screens every week how much in debt they are, 18 million to be exact) but this speaker.sound system they have truely rocks the house. even when they play the pipe organ, very very awesome sounding. i don't know much about your receiver, but the delay part i do (mine has it as well) i have mine just a tad bit over the presets for my room dimensions. my center and fronts are exactly 13 feet away from my big couch and the sides and surrounds are 6.5 feet, they sub is 13.5 feet, my delay is 20ms for the fronts and center (it seems be play rather weel at that setting). i am still learning my toy (only had it a month now) and i learn more each day. soon, i will do my multi-room set up (has 3 zone capable with internal amps for zone 2) i'll never do a third zone.....just no need for it.

anyway, those speakers i am looking into are these puppies.....
http://www.definitivetech.com/loudspeakers/mythos/mythos_tower.html#mythos4
(click mythos 4)



here is a cool link on some speakers....... love the wood grain finish
http://www.gale.co.uk/welcome.asp

(not that is pertains to the subject, i just came across them)

heres a descrip. on bipolar speakers (i was too lazy to type, so i copied and pasted from Def. Tech's site)

Bi-polar speakers have a triangular cross-section, with two sets of drive units that fire 'in-phase' - i.e. they both move out at the same time and in at the same time. this type of surround speaker will provide a much more disperse sound field, yet retains the ability to create a rear stereo field as there is still a direct path from the drive unit to ear. these again can be mounted on either a rear wall or a side wall, slightly behind the listener and again, raised above the listening position. so it makes better sound, think of it like car stereo, a sub box that is iso-baric (spelling*) versus solo-baric
1 sub pushing while the other pulls........ not the case with bi-polar speakers. both push at the same time. but there is also di-polar... which i have not researched, so i won't add my worthless 2 cents on that topic.

it seems back then, they made very good stuff, and now a days, its getting better then just a few years ago (technology has come a long way). my dad has old kenwood stuff and akai reel to reels, massive shelf speaker boxes that weigh upwards of 400 pounds each (2 12inch woofers, huge x-overs, wheels on them to move them) these things rock, he has carver junk and more, but does not use it. the units even have handles on them (the receivers, amps, and e.q's)

well, i have gone on enuff, time for a shower and some tv
talk 2 u later, i will check your other thread.

c ya