Post your DISC quality scans here 2

greensman,

I agree. Using them up, that's the last one I have. a good gift to my bro.

 

Adding a burn from the Samsung SH-S203B and the scan is from a LiteOn LH-18A1P.
MID: RICOHJPN R03
Speed: 8X
Scan speed: 4X
Burning Engine: Nero Express

Scan

Stat

I can post a TRT scan later... off to work I go.. lol

@Hobbit... look familiar/similar??
...gm

 

well i got a few scans here. that ive done over the past week. havent had time to do anyhting with them, with work and the DR.
so here we go. ive found some interesting things with different media.

these 1st 3 or 4 are pretty much the same 8x+r verbs(thanks buddy)
all burnt at 6x and scaned @4x
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/TJB40th.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/Thomas.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/et.png

this one was burnt @6x also but i think i got a finger print on it at the edge
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/EVANALMIGHTY.png

on all of these they have very low PIE's best run of disc ive had in a while

this one is a 8x+r hub printable maxell(mij)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/supermandoomsday-1.png

and this one is the 8x+r verb burnt at 8x.it has a nasty spike at the very begining then looks great afterwards. i have burnt about 6 of them at 8x and got this same result.. so i slowed down to 6x and i get the results i got on the 1st 4 above..
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/ring2-1.png

i beleive i still have 3 or 4 of those RicohJpn's left ill try and burn something on them adn post..

 

Nice scans buddy. How you like them PIE's on the MCC 003??
Here's one for ya.

Classic movie: CaddyShack
IMGBURN @ 8X
Scan @ 4X
MID: MCC 003
Samsung SH-S203B burner w/ c0deKing SB01-fb-fr f/w
LiteOn LH-18A1P scanner

stat

scan

trt Sony AW-G170S

....gm

 

Wish I could burn Verbs like these Ty's
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/CDChris_photo/?action=view&current=Scan2.jpg

 

That's a sweet one Chris! I'd put that one in your Hall of Fame for that drive!

I think on average that you will get a better burn with the TYs compared with the Verbs, at least that has been my experience.

 

Nice one Chris!! Agree with hobbit on the "trophy" scan. hehehe. I will say that the BENQ's prefer DVD+R media and that's what that is. DANG good DVD+R media btw.

Had to give the Samsung a go on some TY media, in particular YUDEN000 T02 media.

burner: Samsung SH-S203B SB01 (c0deKing fb-fr f/w) @ 8X
scanner: LiteOn LH-18A1P @ 4X
IMGBURN: booktype to DVD-ROM
MID: YUDEN 000 T02
Nero 4X scan
trt scanner: Sony AW-G170S

stat

scan

trt

...gm

 

I've just bought my first spindle of 'Made in India' Verbatim DVD+R DL discs and I'm stunned at how bad they are. I've used the Singapore discs in the past and have had nothing but excellent burns, but those days seem to be over - my Playo discs are outperforming the Verbatim now.

My burns have been done on a BenQ DW-1640 writer; I've been burning the 2.4x discs at 8x (both Singapore and India discs). The very first disc I burned did so successfully, but Nero Disc Speed recorded a PIF failure of 1500 right at the get go! (no, that is not a typo.) I threw that one away and did another burn. Here is that scan:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/dutchdummy/DVD Scans/VerbatimDLIndiaCN.png

I've never had PO failures before, never mind 103 of them. I've also never had a quality score of 0; not even the Playo discs were that bad. (I did watch the DVD on my LG LDA-531 stand-alone player, and it played perfectly; I didn't even notice the layer break.) OK, so after 2 bad results (at least in terms of the scans), I burned a different file and came up with this scan:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/dutchdummy/DVD Scans/VerbatimDLIndiaTrade.png

Ouch. Not much better. The next file I attempted failed during the burn sequence at the layer break. It's not looking like a fluke at this point. For a frame of reference, here is a scan I did using the same burner for a Singapore disc:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/dutchdummy/DVD Scans/VerbatimDLSingParent.png

I've been going out of my way lately to buy Verbatim DL discs because of their reputation and my success rate with them, but now I think I'll buy the cheaper discs. Why not, if I'm getting the same results if not better with them?

I do have a question, though. I've read that PO failures (as opposed to PI) are fatal to disc playability, so why did my disc play OK?

 

Wow! Those scans make my burns of MBI +R DLs look great! The MBI's code out as RICOHJPN D01 067.

Here's my best burn so far with them:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/hobbit112/SaharaTSST8xMBIDL6xBurn4xScan.png

Most (I've only done a few) are getting a 84-90 score out of DVD Speed.

Here's a couple more:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/hobbit112/30020a1s8xMBIDL4xBurn.png

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/hobbit112/300TSST8xMBIDL6xBurn4xTSSTScan.png

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/hobbit112/StripesTSST8xMBIDL6xBurn20a1h4xScan.png

If Verbatim is fazing out the DLs from the Singapore plant I'll convert to these, they're cheaper.

BTW, These are Hub printable, Glossy and Waterproof.

Here's a scan of a printed disk:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/hobbit112/Sahara.jpg

BTW, My Benq DW1655 doesn't seem to like these discs that well, or I need to burn more through it.

 

i Doubt or hope they dont, verbatim are gonna phase out the singapore DL disc... just dont make to much since to do something like that .. they have the market all to themselves right now in the DL land.

@dutch44
as for the PIF's the more you have of them is what makes the disc hard to read and not preform in your stand alone player. haveing a few single spike isnt really gonna hurt the disc but when you get alot of them together then its a problem.

have you tried to do a scan disc test on it. this will show if it reads the disc ok. this can be done with the nero speed check.

 

@cincyrob,

I ferverently hope they don't also.

But why else would we be seeing Verbatim India DLs in the states unless they are trying to free up capacity? I could see them switching the Singapore facility over to HD DVD and/or BlueRay production since that facility has the most experience producing a quality dual layer disc since HD & BD are also dual layer.

 

@Hobbit
i agree with what your saying there,but on the other hand they are makeing more money with the small amount of DL(singapore) than they are with there SL disc.and if they got to a inferior product with the inda media they will lose alot. just my speculation thats all. kinda look at it in the money way of things. plus i dont think the hd/blueray is doing that good....

i havent bought alot of DL disc to really worry about it, mainly cause they cost so much.... i did do another one of those windata 8x+rDL's i got from microcenter. i will post the scan in the morning.. its not pretty but it plays fine, right now any way, who knows what it will do tomorrow...lol

 

@cincyrob,

Been thinking about the Verbatim issue and think I have a better explaination.

I bet Verbatim is fazing out the MKM 001 2.4x DLs and moving to all MKM 003 8x DLs at the Singapore facility, just like the demise of the 8x SL discs. They can charge more for the 8x discs, at least they currently are, upwards of $2 per disc, non-printable.

I don't fully agree with you regarding Verbatim losing alot of money with an inferior 2.4x product, what's their competition? Ritek? CMC Mag?

Looking again at dutch44's post he says that he is trying to burn these 2.4x DLs @ 8x and frankly my Benq DW1655 won't burn these @ 4x, much less 8x, its' not an option. I think I have Ck's enhanced f/w installed. Maybe if he burned @ 4x he'd have better results.

 

You're probably right about that, but I'd been buring the MIS discs at 8x successfully with relatively good scans. However, my scans of the MII discs are uniformly horrible. And the burn that failed at the layer break was attemped at 2.4x on my LG GSA-4120B burner. My burning habits and choice of discs did not change; what did change was the country of origin of those discs, and I'm seeing a marked drop in quality with bad scans, coasters, and even gross blemishes on at least one disc. This is not the Verbatim I'm used to.

 

OK, here is a burn using Verbatim DVD+R DL 2.4x media at 2.4x, using my BenQ DW-1640:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/dutchdummy/DVD Scans/VerbatimDLIndia28u2.png

The scan is a little better, but there's still a significant spike at the layer break. Worse yet, note that the scan never finished. I received an error message that said "no additional sense information." I even did the Nero quality scan at only 2x. I'm so disappointed with Verbatim right now.

 

dutch don't dump Verbatim yet.

Did anything change besides the country of origin?? MID, write speed, burner settings, anything that would cause such discrepancies in "quality"?? YES I've read your post but I want to make sure it's the medium before anything else is determined.

..gm

 

@dutch44,

Those MII Verbs don't happen to have 2 hub codes do they, 1 on top and 1 on the bottom?

Can you photo scan the blemished disc and post?

Are you in the 'States? Where did you pick them up?

 

Well, I haven't dumped it yet, but the initial results aren't looking good. I've been consistent with how I've done my burns, so I'm sure it's the medium. The only changes I've made have been in response to the bad burns, such as burning at slower speeds and using my backup writer. I'm still getting bad results and now have 3 coasters and 3 poor burns in 6 attempts. Of course, even if it is the media, there could be other explanations. Maybe it's a bad batch. Or maybe since the media is now made in India, there are subtle changes in the writing strategy that would benefit from changes in firmware for the burners. Both my burners are older models that no longer have new firmware being developed for them, so I've just placed an order for a Samsung SH-S203B SATA writer. I'll try some burns with that and post my results. Wish me luck!

 

I was just curious if anything in the media might have changed besides the Country of ORigin. Is it still the same rating speed wise and the EXACT same MID?

I agree on the "new" drive theory but if the MID hasn't changed then I'm not sure it would make a huge difference. The drives you have received their last "update" almost a year ago if I remember right, maybe even longer. :S

Your choice on the Samsung SH-S203B is a good one I think. I've been messing with mine the last month or so and hobbit112 has one too. I think his results have been more than acceptable with relation to DL media. BUT you'll have to ask him to verify.

....gm

I'll post something later tonight, MAYBE even a DL burn.....ooooooooo!!! hehehe...

 

I wouldn't say they have 2 hub codes, but it's definitely a much longer number, written in what appears to be in a slighly larger font, and wraps around 3/4 of the hub. The hub code on the MIS discs only wrap around 1/3 of the hub.

I live in California and bought my Verbatims at Micro Center - 20 discs for $27.99. I've always bought them there.

Here is a scan of the blemished disc:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/dutchdummy/DVD Scans/VerbMII.jpg

Bob