Post your DISC quality scans here 2

Yeh MCC 003 is the GOOD stuff from Verbatim. I have a few left from the retail packages of the 8X media. NOT the 'movie reel' ones. I think the CompUSA here is selling them for $7.99/25 + tax of course. They have 100's of them. They even have the DVD-R version.

Nice scan Rob!!!

...gm

 

Here's a couple of mine. Not too shabby.

 

think im gonna head over to the compusa by me today. got a $50 visa gift card that needs to be spent on some media...lol

here is a few more scans of these digital media disc... my LH-18A1P litey is loven these.. gonna run a few through my SHW-160P6S and see what it does with them...

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/digitalmoviesuper1.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/digitalmoviedoodle.png

 

Ive recently found about Verbatim changing its manufacturing of Double layer DVD'S to India(although it may be a long ago), I started investigating about differences in quality about the media MIS and MII I found many opinions, lamentably none agreed on the fact that Double layer MII where as good as those MIS, some said they gave alot of coasters others that they where ok but not as good as MIS etc..

So I decided to investigate myself, I bought a pack of 20 Verbs DVD+R DL 2.4X through the net and they where MII . But because I only wanted to stick with the best I found out that the 8X DVD+R DL of this same brand where made in Singapore, so I again bought a 20 pack. I have to clarify I did this test using a Brand new LITEON DH-20A3H burner, using Nero 7.

I tried using both kind of discs (MII and MIS) to see its results and here they are:


DVD+R DL 8X Made in Singapore (burned at 4x):


Media Code: MKM003

Sorry for those who do not understand spanish: Promedio=Average Maximo=Maximum

DVD+R DL 2.4X Made in India (Burned at 2.4x):


As you see quality differences are noticeable, although both are readable the MII has much more errors, and for those who think this was just pure bad luck, I again burned a MII DL and got a complete coaster with tons of errors, and when I tried burning MIS I got a similar result with little errors as the one I posted.

I hope this informations helps, and if you think you need more information Ill gladly post it, I have burned other of this DL dics in other burners with similar results, also Ive burned the old 2.4X MIS and got similar results as those with 8X capability but if you want to check the test I can post them. Any other info you think necessary just ask. I hope this information was helpfull and that assures the fact that MII DL are really not worth it.

 

Paztelu you might try those MII DL's at 4x and see what happens. I would recommend updating your f/w to the latest f/w if it's not. go here and click on last link, that should be for your drive. Read a little in that thread and make sure I'm on the right track for YOUR drive.

good luck...

....gm

 

hey greenie remember me??????lol

i dont know why verbatim would wanna mess with something they have the market corner'd on? i could see if they were improving the quality of the disc, but from those scans it dont look like it,scan wise that is....

@paztelu.
how do those MII disc play? any play bacl problems?

guess im gonna be on a mission to research this a little more

 

at 1.80 each you want good results everytime

 

NO, should I?? Did we have a fling in the past? You're not still upset that I broke it off are you? hehehe.

GOOD point and I agree. I think they still oversee the process but the "quality" seems to be lacking to say the least. There's plenty of "proof" out there Rob. You don't have to search for anything just make sure when you BUY Verb DL's to get the MIS discs. Just so you know the 2.4x DL Sony MIS are Verbs too. I've been waiting for them to go on sale again here but NO luck as of yet.

...gm

 

my latest scan

 

Hi all, recently i have started to get some playback errors, thought it may be the film itself i have burnt but then thought it could be the disks. I have ran the nero cd dvd speed tool but am having dificulty in processing the results as im not sure what is acceptable or unacceptable really.



I burnt this particular disk at 8x, which is what i normally burn at without any problems what so ever. The disks are PiData Ritek G05, used loads before and no problems.

Would the quality of the data effect the results in nero cd dvd speed tool or is really only the disk itself??

How many PI Errors, Average, maximum and total would be an acceptable level??

How many PI Failures, Average, maximum and total would be an acceptable level??

Any help appreciated

 

sorry heres the links again

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u155/littlebouncers/nero.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u155/littlebouncers/nero2.jpg

 

i just did a burn using dvd shrink and burned with nero. i am trying to interpret if it is good or not.

 

rich it's difficult to say if the disc is good or not. If you don't know these scans are "eye candy" to quote someone if you will.

A scan disc or TRT (benchmark) scan will tell you more about the "playability" of the disc. Of course the BEST determining factor is the ability of the disc to play in a stand alone DVD player.

hth.....

btw... What speed did you record at? Did you use the DH-18A1P? Where was the media made? India or Taiwan? Just some standard questions.

....gm

 

i burned at 4X and the dvds are MIT. they seem to play find in my dvd player without any problems. what does DH-18A1P mean?

 

Look at the scan you posted. It shows the drive you scanned the disc with. I was just wondering if you used the same drive to burn as well. I think your scan is fine. I don't like the 2 clusters in the middle but I wouldn't worry about them unless you had a TRT scan that showed some interruption there or if you are having playback problems.

From what you indicated you have good playback so you should just fine. Those are good discs btw. I like the MCC 004 discs. Verbatim is a good inexpensive media provider.

.....gm

 

in the very first scan thread i started i posted a link to a site that breaks down the PIE errors and PIF erors. i will try and find it and post it again here.

if i remember correct your PIE errors you can have a single spike up to 280 and still have a good playback(on your scan you didnt get that high. only 127) myself i dont like seeing them that high but it does happen depending on the media you use. i would be a little concerned about that disc playing say 6months to a year down the road.

The PIF's should be under 32 i think it is.but i wouldnt want to see any that high. i think from my expereince that anything over 10 will be hard to have a playable disc. the PIF errors are the ones i tend to look at if the disc can be read in my players. for me if the PIF's are 4 or below im happy with the burn. but id say i can speak for most in here that we want them as low as possible the lower the better. a spike of 2 is most exceptable and desirable by most

AS my buddy greensman stated that these Quality test are mostly eyecandy to us here..lol they do tell you alot about the disc if they can be READ in your player or not.as for saying hey i got a 95 on the score doesnt mean it will be a perfectly playable disc for you,as if you had a 30 score dont mean it wont play at all. these test are testing the burn you did how good it was burnt to that disc...if you burnt corupt files to the disc it will still play the corupt file and you will have bad playback...

so in short

PIE errors=280 or less
PIF error=32 or less

that is the so called standard/ballpark figures

those numbers are the single spike numbers not the total amount #

PIE errors= 10
PIF errors= 2

that is what i want to see on my scans

hope this helps. i will try and find that info on the errors for you

 

ok i found this for some reading on the pie and pif errors
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/interpreting-pi-po-error-scans-80545/

some good reading here hope it helps out.

you might want to also do a scandisc test... that will scna the disc and check its readablity good little check also

 

ok since i dont have a new build to take pics of and post i went on a burning and scanning frenzy...lol
3 different types of media all burnt at 8x and scan'd @4x
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/deathsentence.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/thegameplan.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/thereef.png

i got a twiglightzone season 1 box set(6 disc) for my 9yo son gotta back these badboys up was hard as heck to find the first season set.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/twilight.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/twilight2.png

 

cincy those are some sweet scans!! How you like them MCC 003's??? I'm waiting for them to go down in price here at my CompUSA!!! I think they're at $7.99 now!! $0.35 each isn't too bad but they might get better. hehehe.

Anyone use the Verbatim vinyl discs yet? I need some CD-R's and that's what they have available for pretty cheap.

...gm

 

the MCC 003's are way to sweet i think.i still am curious as to the COVER on the digital movie discthat i have here. if they are of a better quality than the regular disc???i dont know, but they are some good burning media. both(yes only 2) drive burn them bad boys with ease and a great success rate. havent had 1 bad burn with them.
the loweset QS i had was a 90 and that was at the very begining og the sacn it spiked to 4....but i think i had a big finger print on the disc so that might have done it...

you got your beast up and running yet? get the video cam out and run some clips of it....lol yes i got the want to so bad its unreal... just gotta wait.

oh yea.. ive tried about 10-12 of them verbatim Vinyl cd-rs a while back they code out as cmc-mag but that dont mean anything with cd-rs i havent had a problem one with the disc i burnt... not alot but no problems out of the ones i have burnt