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Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by cincyrob, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    I usually find my PIF's to be much lower when scanning at a higher rate, thought being that the drive isn't taking the time to look at the disc more carefully for flaws and instead skip over some that a slower speed might pick up. The PIE's on either really aren't that bad when you look at hobbits first scan at the top of this page considering his PIE's are in the six digit range.
     
  2. ferguj1

    ferguj1 Active member

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    I have seen the same results as Loco in regard to scan speed. I have tried some disks at low speed and received 0 as a QS and thenagain at MAX speed and read in the 80's or 90's.
     
  3. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    cincyrob & LOCO,
    I scanned the same disk at 4x and this is the result!

    [​IMG]

    The pi errors remained the same but the pi failures went up a bit. Still, not bad! Jitter has droped too to 8.34%!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  4. cincyrob

    cincyrob Active member

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    see that just throws out everything we've talked about. and only proves that these scans cant solely be looked at by the score.

    Russ try doing that scan again at the same speed a couple different times. id' bet $100 you will not get the same score. never happen.

    Like GM stated its the whole scan you need to take into effect.... if i remember correct ZOSO would get a spike at the very begining onf his burns and the rest of it be awsome. but because of that big spike it dropped the score.

    Russ now that your drive is flashed to a litey. try out K-Probe for liteon drives only. you dont get a QS score just a total of Pie's and Pif's and i think jitter as well its a little more in depth than nero Quality test.

    K-Probe link

    give that a try.
     
  5. garmoon

    garmoon Regular member

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    Stop wasting your time. The scans mean nothing. The numbers and errors are all over the place. JM2C
     
  6. greensman

    greensman Regular member

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    RedRob don't confuse him this early in the mix.... lol.

    garmoon you kill joy!! It's not like he has anything better to do. :p

    Some nice scans fellas. :)

    ....gm
     
  7. cincyrob

    cincyrob Active member

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    AH SCREW-IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Me confused? Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered, maybe! But never confused! Lost? Definitely! ROFLMSOAO!!

    Anyway here's the upgraded Lite-On scan. The drive is now a Lite-On LH-20A 1P now. Looks pretty good!

    [​IMG]

    I'll do the same to the other one in OxiMoron later!

    Best Regards,
    Russ




     
  9. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    Who said anything about this being solely about the score? I think we all realize that the actual score means diddly, it's your PIF/PIE's that tell the story coupled with jitter (which TBH, I don't really understand).

    Nice thread title too, so why did you rename it Rob...or was it you?
     
  10. cincyrob

    cincyrob Active member

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    the jitter is well, kinda like how GM said it. is how balanced the disc is once burnt, so to say. i think the standard for a jitter test is 12 or under. kinda like the PIE's you want to stay under 280 to have a readable/rippable disc. i think it is 12 not 100% on that. but i will find out.

    the QS is just a braggin thing i think. you know the higher the QS the better everyone feels..lol we/ well i know i do. tend to get wound up when i get a 99% QS..lol


    Computer Desktop Encyclopedia: jitter
    A flicker or fluctuation in a transmission signal or display image. The term is used in several ways, but it always refers to some offset of time and space from the norm. For example, in a network transmission, jitter would be a bit arriving either ahead or behind a standard clock cycle or, more generally, the variable arrival of packets. In computer graphics, to "jitter a pixel" means to place it off side of its normal placement by some random amount in order to achieve a more natural antialiasing effect.



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    ferguj1 Active member

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    Glad to see the old title back Rob. :)
     
  12. greensman

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    ferguj1 Active member

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    Speaking of jitter, why does everyones program but mine have another tab at the end labeled TA Jitter?
     
  14. greensman

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    Here's what I found but I remember more about Jitter and it's importance. Of course that could be an illusion I guess. lol.

    ...gm
     
  15. theonejrs

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    fergui1,
    Because it doesn't support that function on your drive. It's not there when I scan with my Asus DVD-Rom drive either, but when I click on the Lite-On, it re-appears!

    Russ
     
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  16. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV Active member

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    its been awhile since i've done a scan looks like the Plextor/Pioneer ODDs are holding up just fine.my guess they will have a longer life being there are sata drives and run cooler compared to IDE ODDs

    [​IMG]
     
  17. cincyrob

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    check that link. you looking for a antec 1200?????
     
  18. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    ZoSoIV,
    I can't imagine why it would run cooler, as they are the exact same drive as the Pata version. The only difference is the interface! The mechanicals, motors and other parts are identical!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  19. greensman

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    Go here and see.. lol. forgot the link. :p

    ....gm

    add: Zo and Russ I don't see the significance of an ODD and heat. I'm not saying they don't put out heat just NOT enough to matter if you have adequate ventilation. ;) And knowing you 2 turds there is plenty of air moving throughout your cases. :)
     
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  20. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV Active member

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    well it must be the drives then because the Plextor PX-716A i had would run a little warm compared the the PX-810SA i have now
     

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