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Post your Nero cd/dvd speed quality scans here

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by cincyrob, Nov 2, 2006.

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  1. binkie7

    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Allen42
    Like cincy said a scan is just a scan. Real proof is the playback.

    I have scans that are absolutely horrible - but still play and can be re ripped. My biggest test.

    Pioneer's - just my experience are ok for scanning but I have an older Pioneer so just basing it on that.
    Great burner and discs that I burned on it 2 years ago are still good no matter what the scans says :)

    Try them out on a few of the different dvd players - you might just be fine.
    Mine- TY 8 & 16x and Verb 16x are played on many different players w/ a very high (99.9) success rate.
     
  2. Allen42

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    Well, I've been going around and playing the 8x (the worse one) in the various players in the house. The only problem I've had is my son's Compaq computer's DVD player started skipping and looping. All of the STBs in the house seem to play it fine, tho.

    The 4x played fine in all machines, and we're testing the 16x now.

    Here's the kicker... I just re-scanned the 16x, and came up with:

    PIEs
    Avg: 37.34
    Max: 159
    Total: 465803

    PIFs
    Avg: .24
    Max: 8
    Total: 2415


    Way worse!!! So, it looks like you may be right, the Pioneer isn't a reliable scanner/burner?

    I'm perfect ready to spend more money to get this right. Can't I run to Fry's, Best Buy, Staples, CompUSA, or something and buy a drive that will definately provide no probs? I just need to know exactly what to get!!

    -Allen

     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    Your son's dvd player in the Compaq's may need a firmware update (if it's not up to date). 16x media is newer media so that mightbe the problem.

    Now I won't dump the Pioneer just cause of the scans - it's probably a good drive - my older is. Scans are another thing - doesn't mean it's not a good burner.

    I won't put to much stock in scans - base it more on playback. So far it's looks like the drive is burning well.
    To achieve 100% playback on all players and set ups is pretty much impossible imho. You can get very close though and sounds like you are.
    If you want to pick up a 2nd drive check out newegg.com for the LiteOn's. Plextor is good too but 3x or more as much.
     
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    You guys are great. I guess I'll keep this set-up and wait and see if I get anything returned from the family. I've got about 25 hours of captured DV video to go, so my Christmas break will be busy!

    Good night, and (almost) Merry Christmas Eve all.

    -Allen
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    Xmas eve here just barely though :)

    Keep your current set up - may just be fine but on biggie adding another burner to test things out - esp when a LiteOn a newegg.com is about $30

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  6. cincyrob

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    @allen42
    those verbs ive done those scans on are a newer disc. they have a different code than the normal verbs thats what is worring me about those compared to the goood stuff... the one scan i have up there with the high of 5 PIF's i watched it lastnight and my oldest son is watching it on his playstation2 now. not a problem one clear no skipping or pixels in it.. we all want the scans to be more reliable but there not...
    i have a HP740i burner was my first it didnt do a good job burning but i have found that useing it to read and rip and then burn with my lite-on SHW160-P6S it is a great combo.i dont burn with it any more just my liteon let the HP do the reading and the liteon do the writing...

    Like binkie7 said you can get the same liteon from newegg.com for 30 buck.. catch it onsal like i did and get it for 28 shipped..
     
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    latest burn from a slave (external) hard drive.
     
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    this is of the theatrical version of wickerman that i did lastnight and got a 90 on nero....looks alot better than nero. seems like these disc seem to get worse towards the ending of the disc.
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    im wanting better scores out these disc but not taking my own advise not to put much stock into these scans..lol OCD'ing again.. wanting them to be as good as the MCC004 are...would bug me as much if i had bought them but my parents got them for me for X-mas....

    Merry Christmas to everyone....
     
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    My first spindle of Taiyo Yuden's burnt with the LG 4480B DVD combo drive :), I do not know how to read the results but from common sense I would have to say these are good. I payed 100 dollars for the LG dvd drive in March 2003, still a great drive.

    Nero CD Speed Test results

    General Information
    Operating System Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
    Drive HL-DT-STRW/DVD GCC-4480B
    Firmware Version 1.06
    Serial Number
    Disc Audio CD
    MID 42m136s212f
    Capacity 80:15.68

    Transfer Rate
    Start 18.47x
    End 43.07x
    Average 32.49x
    Type CAV

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    DAE Quality
    Quality 10
    Accurate Stream Yes

    Seek Times
    Random 84 ms
    1/3 141 ms
    Full 208 ms

    CPU Usage
    1X 0 %
    2X 1 %
    4X 2 %
    8X 6 %

    Interface
    Burst Rate 34437 KB/sec

    Spin Up/Down Times
    Spin Up Time 4.24 sec
    Spin Down Time 4.24 sec

    Load/Eject Times
    Load Time 1.19 sec
    Eject Time 1.60 sec
    Recognition Time 6.61 sec

    Log
    Time Elapsed Action
    [19:24:01] Starting transfer rate test
    [19:26:37] 2:36 Speed:18-43 X CAV (32.49 X average)
    [19:26:37] Starting DAE quality test
    [19:26:42] Total errors: 0 (0.000 %)
    [19:26:42] DAE Quality: 10
    [19:26:57] 0:20 Accurate Stream: Yes
    [19:26:57] Starting seek times test
    [19:27:05] Random Seek: 84 ms
    [19:27:20] 1/3 Seek: 141 ms
    [19:27:40] 0:44 Full Seek: 208 ms
    [19:27:40] Starting CPU usage test
    [19:27:55] CPU usage at 1X: 0 %
    [19:28:10] CPU usage at 2X: 1 %
    [19:28:26] CPU usage at 4X: 2 %
    [19:28:41] 1:00 CPU usage at 8X: 6 %
    [19:28:41] Starting burst rate test
    [19:28:42] 0:02 Interface burst rate: 34 MB/sec (34437 KB/sec)
    [19:28:42] Starting spin-up/down test
    [19:28:51] Spin-up time: 4.24 seconds
    [19:29:05] 0:23 Spin-down time: 4.24 seconds
    [19:29:05] Starting load/eject test
    [19:29:07] Eject time: 1.60 seconds
    [19:29:08] Load time: 1.19 seconds
    [19:29:15] 0:09 Recognition time: 6.61 seconds
     
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    On Newegg, which Liteon? I have 16x +R's at the moment, and I read that booktyping is important, so which model do you recommend? I also have DL dvds, but haven't started using them much, but would like a DL burner.

    LH-20A1H-185
    LH-18A1P-185
    LH-20A1P-184
    LH-18A1P-186
    SHM-165H6S
    ...

    (22 models total)
     
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    Thanks, but they're out of stock.

    What is the next best one, and will it support DVD-ROM booktyping?

     
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    ive just downloaded smartburn for the liteon..i dont really know what it is supose to do anyone who does mind putting some insite on it for me.. here is a screen shot of the 3 stages. where should i have them set at?
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    dont know if i should have had this going from the first burn i tried with the liteon... or if it will help these new verbs MCC03RG20
     
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    Never heard of this before Rob, let me look into it,
    by the way,
    Merry Christmas to all from "Sunny" CHarlotte, NC.
     
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    i just went to the liteon website just checking for firmware update, like i do every now and then... seen this smart burn thing... seems to remember the media it has burned and keeps the settings for that media to keep quality burns... kinda like the benQ drives.... what made me look for it. i seen that new 20x liteon and it said something about smart burn. so i looked to see if our Drive had this also and it does so i downloaded it but dont really know what to do with it
     
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    from what i just read again at the liteon site. all the smartburn is , is a program to tell you what kind of media you have..
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    @cincyrob
    Yeah that's all I think that utility does.

    The smartburn option that LiteOn's have assesses the dvd for the proper writing strategy and it's the buffer underrun prevention - something along those lines.

    Here's a scan of those Memerox my kid bought me - not bad - at least they're Ritek.

    [​IMG]
     
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    so its not really gonna do anything to help with the qualit of a burn, or remembering when it has a good burn and keeps that info for future burns.....

    not a bad scan at all. how does it play? im still not sold on these new verbs MCC03GR20...gonna do a few movies tonight should be off work early to get some in..
    be a shame if these disc arent that good(which is what i think).granted i have only burnt 4 of them on the liteon drive..the only thing thats been in this drive is the hub printable 8x verbs i got from neweeg and the 16x+r verbs i got from best buy.. and 3 or for TY's thats it... am getting low on the hub printable only about 10-12 left.

    like i said before about them.. the scans i have done look bad but they play great.... just wonder how they will play down the road..
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    Nope - not from what I found. The SmartBurn 'technology' is part of the drive itself - not a utility.

    I skimmed thru the disc and all seemed ok - I'm going try and watch it tonite.

    Yeah the MCC03 - I just slowed the burn speed down to 8x and they're doing better - or maybe it's just cause I'm using a new spindle. Could be that too.

    I think we'll be fine down the road with them - but only time will tell :)
     
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