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problems with king kong and narnia

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by fourlc, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. brobear

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    Why use DVD Decrypter? Shrink should have worked by itself. Since Shrink fixes compliance problems, why did you need FixVTS? As of today, the motion picture industry has promised to no longer put copyright protection on new releases and all previous encryption will be turned off. In the future the only help threads necessary will be on how to turn on the PC and put discs in the burner. "Backup DVD" will become a default setting in all operating systems. Microsoft will be releasing an auto update for Windows on Monday.
     
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  2. brobear

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    Flying saucers spotted over London, Sydney, Moscow, Beijing, and Washington... The [bold]END[/bold] is near...
     
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  3. cincyrob

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    ive seen a few people talk about fixvts. what is this and how do i get it?
     
  4. brobear

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    It's freeware and is available off the net. Just google or someone may save you the trouble and give you a link. It's been a while since I got my copy of it, or I'd give you the info. It's for repairing VOB files. It's escpecially affective at making DVD files compliant due to problems induced by some of the new copyright protection. AnyDVD now includes a ripper incorporating the FixVTS. VobBlanker is another app that will accomplish the same. The VobBlanker is a bit more involved, but has more options. FixVTS is just a drag and drop setup making the interface simple.
     
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  6. Devoncs

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    I tried Narnia last week with Fab, and it ripped fine. I tried to compress it with dvd2svcd and cce, but the video is delayed 10 seconds. I tried reripping the original rip with shrink, uncompressed, and then putting that smaller, simpler ifo through dvd2svcd and it's the same problem, only a 2 second delay, rather than 10. But the uncompressed shrink is perfect, as far as the audio/video delay goes. So shrink can handle whatever is bothering dvd2svcd, but I can't figure out what is causing the delay. Looks like I'll have to just burn the original fab rip to a DL disk (at 10x the cost).
     
  7. brobear

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    When the regular release copies come out, we'll see. Not everyone has access to early copies. I'll be giving them a go with RB/CCE.
     
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  8. Fleezbyte

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    I just burned Narnia yesterday from a buddy who got it, what 3 days early.
    Shrink, Decrypter, and FabDecrypter all failed. It eventually took AnyDvd (running in the back) with CloneDvd2 to rip it. It came out beautifully with no freezes or skips of anykind.



    Allen
     
  9. brobear

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    This I find more believable. I'm still looking forward to getting a copy. You wouldn't still have access to the disc would you? A screenshot of the AnyDVD info window would be interesting.
     
  10. Devoncs

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    don't know about a screencap, but here's what it shows when I pop the disk in, right click on the anydvd icon and click "Show information"

    Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 5.9.4.1)
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

    Media is a Data DVD.
    Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
    Size of first Layer: 2026976 sectors (3958 MBytes)
    Total size: 4008432 sectors (7828 MBytes)

    Video DVD (or CD) label: LSE0NNW1
    Media is CSS protected!
    Video Standard: NTSC
    Media is locked to region(s): 1!

    RCE protection not found.
    Found & removed wrong DVD structure!
    Found & removed Macrovision RipGuard protection!
    Found & removed error zones between files!
    Found & removed invalid program from program chain!
    Autorun not found on Video DVD.
    Found & removed 2 bad sector protections!
    Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!
     
  11. brobear

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    That is what I was interested in seeing. That's enough to know that DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are not going to do the release alone; at least not with that copyright protection. The DVD Decrypter with PgcEdit for the PSL2 system will work, but not DVD Decrypter alone. LUK was good, but he wasn't clairvoyant. DVDD is good, but it occasionally had to be updated for new copyright protection. I'll qualify what I said: If a person takes the time to edit and rip just the movie alone, then that may work, but that is leaving out the niceties of a DVD, such as menus, settings, and navigation. Also, the user has become the decrypter, not the software, it wouldn't be a job for the novice user. If a person is going to take that much trouble with DVDD, why not just use the PgcEdit method, it should be easier? Check out the Alkohol guides here at AD, I believe he had something on that process. If you can't find it, PM him. I'll just continue to do things [bold]the easy way[/bold] myself using [bold]AnyDVD[/bold].
     
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  12. Devoncs

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    well Fab 2.9.7.2 worked for me on the first try, so I was able to copy the whole movie if I wanted, but I tend to throw out everything and keep just the main video. I don't need to see menus when I rip out the features that I'll only watch once anyway and I don't need the foreign language audio tracks, so I usually just go for a slim movie-only DVD. CCE is better than shrink, so I use that, but I think these Disney DVDs are complicating the process that I use to have cce compress it. I'll do another compression on it tonight using the Anydvd rip I just made and see if whatever it does differently from fab makes a difference in how the recompressing programs behave.
     
  13. brobear

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    With the problem Sony and Disney releases, there have been some file compliance problems caused by the copyright protection. AnyDVD has a ripper that incorporates FixVTS for processing the files and doing repairs during the rip to the HD. I still use AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter (with Slysoft preferred settings) to rip to the HD and then use FixVTS as needed. That way I can have the original ripped files to work with. If I run into compliance issues, I use FixVTS to create a repaired set of files with the original ripped source in a backup folder. The AnyDVD ripper is easiest, the method I use gives me a couple of extra options. Then for encoding the files I use Rebuilder with CCE SP set to 3 passes. If you're not using RB, you should give it a try. There's a free version, I opted for the Pro. With a supported burner (DVD Decrypter and ImgBurn) it can be set to auto burn the output. I do batch files (3 or 4 DVDs) and do the burns separately with Nero Express.
     
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  14. brobear

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    Devoncs
    In case you're interested, in the RB Settings/Setup, you can select a preferred language for audio and subtitles, and select a sound track option, such as AC3 or DTS when available. It will also remove the Director comments if you check the box. It robs space on extras. There's 4 options of Backup from Movie Only to Full Backup. So, the app can be set to automatically trim down a set of files the way the user wants. It works great at default, but as a person learns to use it and make selections, it can do a lot of editing work automatically.
     
  15. Devoncs

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    Rebuilder, eh? I'll have to give that a try. I got started about 5 or 6 years ago with flask and divx, then got dvd2svcd to do svcds. when it could do dvd2dvd, I stuck with it. I may have to make the switch to rebuilder if it can handle the problems I'm having with movies like narnia. Thanks for the advice Brobear.
     
  16. brobear

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    The problem may be in the decryption phase. As I mentioned, some new releases are causing compliance problems. As you know, getting a clean and compliant source is the key to any successful project. Try the method I'm using to see if that helps, AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter (SPTI selected, no CSS Cracking, and no Check for Structure Protection as per Slysoft recommendations), and then process with FixVTS when necessary. If it's a new release with Arccoss or Ripguard (or both) you may want to run the files through FixVTS (freeware) as a precaution. It doesn't take that long and it is a preemptive option to prevent possible problems you may run into. With that, RB will do all I mentioned. Probably more as I often leave things out. http://www.dvd-rb.com is the link to get all you need for the RB set up. AnyDVD has a full function trial, so no problems giving it a try. http://www.slysoft.com

    [bold]Added Note:[/bold] I should have added, AnyDVD includes a ripper that incorporates the FixVTS. So, the easy way is to rip to the HD with that and open the files from there. I just prefer the options I have doing it the manual way.
     
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  17. Jigen

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    Great, you like AnyDVD. My take on the thing is that 90% of the time it's useless because DVD Decrypter will do the job alone. The other 10% it performs a function, but nothing that FREE programs won't do for, well, free.
    Also, there is nothing hard about the PGCedit plugin. It launches, it fixes the problems, and then you're done all automagically.
     
  18. brobear

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    If that's your preference. PgcEdit with DVD Decrypter and the PSL2 system is just time consuming and a bit difficult the first few times a novice uses it. True, DVD Decrypter will do the old releases but as time goes on and more releases come along with the newer copyright protection, the percentage of its success will decrease. If one has AnyDVD, why not use it for everything. It does the releases DVD Decrypter can't do alone (the so called 10%) and the ones it can. In other words, it does 100% where DVD Decrypter can't by itself.
     
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    both can be copied using dvd region+css free running in the background while using shrink dvd to copy. never had any problems and i get them a week b4 release

     
  20. brobear

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    DVD Region + CSS Free is similar to AnyDVD in function. The fault with it is that Fengtao is often slow with needed updates when new copyright protection is found on a new release. They eventually get there. Slysoft has consistently been the first with the needed updates. I used to have both, but I've neglected to reload the Region Free on my system due to the slow updates. I've not heard of it being able to do the new releases with compliance problems due to the newer Arccoss and Ripguard. Those usually need processing with VobBlanker or FixVTS following a rip. AnyDVD now has a ripper with FixVTS as part of the package.
     
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