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problems with king kong and narnia

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by fourlc, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. cincyrob

    cincyrob Active member

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    Thanks brobear for the link to fixvts. will have to try it out. i did just buy memiors of a geisha, and king king. backed up kong perfect with anydvd and clonedvd(did burn it to fast and got some big noticable pixles reburned it at 2.4x is awsome)but when i went to do geisha anydvd and clonedvd gave me a error in the first vob file.took it to dvdfabdecrypter then to clone and got a perfect copy.
    I, like you do think anydvd is great but have had a few problems with some of the sony movies but nothing that a newbie like me couldnt fix useing one of the other great programs.
     
  2. brobear

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    You could have used the included ripper that comes with AnyDVD, instead of going to the DVDFab Decrypter. Personaly, I use AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter and then use FixVTS as necessary. As I've been mentioning, the AnyDVD ripper processes the files for compliance using FixVTS while it does the rip to the hard drive. Then you only need to open your processed files from the hard drive with CloneDVD 2 or the software of choice. AnyDVD has the bases covered. A lot of people are so used to AnyDVD just running in the background, they haven't paid any attention to the new ripper. On some of the new releases processing for compliance has been a necessity. So, if you pay attention to what you've got, I don't see the need for any other great programs needed for the new Sony and Disney releases.
     
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  3. Devoncs

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    Ok, well the report on how Narnia went with the new ripping and rebuilder:

    Ripped just fine with Anydvd and decryptor like you suggested it would, Brobear. I did memoirs a couple weeks ago, before I obtained anydvd, and fab was required for it to rip properly. I believe kong was also fine, but I used fab on it, so don't know if it had any special newfangled protection.

    I used rebuilder to do menu and movie only. tweaked a few of the settings for cce and possibly some others. it kept extras like the screeners and the Disney DVD screen and the fibbi warnings, while stripping the real extras. It did keep the extra audio listed in the ifo files, so they're selectable while watching, though empty. I know shrink rips those out of the ifo, so I ran it through there to see if it would do that, and it didn't remove anything from the ifos. Oh well. I'll do movie only in the future.
     
  4. brobear

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    With the excellent encoding done by RB/CCE, I do all my projects full disc with English and Dolby as the selected options. I watch the movies on a 60" TV, so errors would be noticable. In some cases the copy plays better than the original. Case in point was a backup I did of a used disc that was scratched up. The scratched original would hesitate in a couple of spots where the copy didn't. The beauty of RB/CCE is that the editing isn't really necessary. When I first started out, I liked to edit, but as I noticed the quality of the output, RB has made me lazy. Some of the big blockbusters, like "LOTR" and "Pirates of the Caribbean" don't have much to edit out anyway.

    When you go into Reauthor with Shrink, it puts all menu functions into a nonfunctional file. So, you're just getting what you select in there.
     
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  5. exxitar

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    yeah brobear shrink alone would not rip the movie so i use decrypter then it still didn't shrink it so i used PgcEdit it contains all the plug ins i need like FixVTS that did the trick then i was able to shrink it and burn it with nero, with out this method shrink will give me error message.
     
  6. brobear

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    The PgcEdit with DVD Decrypter and FixVTS along with the other utilities that can be used are a good system to fall back on. It usually takes a guide the first few times through. I learned the process, but I've yet had to rely on it. I've had AnyDVD for the longest and with it and DVD Decrypter I've always gotten a good rip, though on occasion I have had to process for compliance with FixVTS. AnyDVD takes out all those steps involved with using the PgcEdit method. AnyDVD had paid for itself by just being quick and easy, not to mention it being updated faster than the other comparable software on the market.
     
  7. mcmenace

    mcmenace Regular member

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    anybody with narnia trouble.........

    Just did legally purchased narnia (for those who care) with clonedvd2 v 2.8.9.2, anydvd v5.9.4.1, and region free + css v5.9.7.2 and it backed up entire disc at about 50% in about 1/2 hour or so. Smooth, fast, and EZ, the way I like it, no muss no fuss. The sheep had a couple messages not usually seen, ie found and corrected IFO format errors and truncated invalid title unit entries. Anydvd came up with a bunch of probs/fixes I didnt bother writing down. Movie must be LOADED with entire reperatoire LOL. Gonna try it with just movie and menus next and see what ratio I can get, while I watch backup and check. First 2 progs mentioned have trials, so ya don't have to spend any money unless you think it's worth it (which I do) last one not sure, might not even need it but it's there so I use it.
    mcmenace
     
  8. mcmenace

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    FYI

    Best ratio I could obtain, deleting the DTS, and ETC, was 71%, that being movie and menu's only. Believe that is because movie is 2.26 hours in length w/5.1 min. Tried that, compared to "quality ratio" of around 50% w/ everything, don't really notice a difference in image quality, however, using HDTV/DIT/DVD w Prog Scan to watch on so with that in mind, it looks fine either way, ie with or without DTS and bonus stuff.

    mcmenace
     
  9. arniebear

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    Just did Narnia and backed up perfectly. Tried it first using DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD running in the background and then tried to open with Shrink and Recode but neither program would do it they both errored out. Then used the AnyDVD ripper that is improved with the current update and both programs will then open the file.

    Used DVDRB/CCE to back up movie only and got a flawless backup. Movie with the menu shows 71% compression, get rid of the menu and you get 78%.
     
  10. 2000neon

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    i just finished burning Narnia
    i tried first with anydvd in background and clonedvd2
    but kept getting errors
    then i downloaded latest version of anydvd (21 day trial)
    worked perfect
     
  11. mcmenace

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    Fyi - CCE

    [/quoteCCE is one of the fastest encoders on the market, in addition to which it provides the best quality, too -- you wouldn't expect any less from a software with a price tag of $2,000.00.]


    This is the trial version. It is limited in the following ways:
    1. A logo will be inserted in the encoded stream.
    2. Encoder control list cannot be saved or loaded.
    3. Framewise setting is not available for Quality setting.

     
  12. bunnyrip

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    King Kong, Memoirs of a Geisha, Chronicles of Narnia, all easily backed up with CloneDVD 2 & AnyDVD latest versions. No problems with any of these.
    Slysoft Rocks!
     
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    Make sure you are running AnyDVD 5.9.5.3, they had two updates today, and yes slysoft really rocks:)
     
  14. papapopa

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    i used dvd fab express and shrink nothing else.. nero had a some trouble but i went back and burned it with just nero out of my traget file for shrink... have no any dvd or vob blanker just this there trusty programs dvd shrink, dvd fab not up to date verg.. and srink to 5gui for sony portected dvds fits to a dvd 5.. with these there progams i never have trouble with any dvd.. nock on wood.. my saying is why pay for soft ware to do the job when you can do it with free software..
     
  15. mcmenace

    mcmenace Regular member

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    papapopa

    There is nothing wrong whatsoever, if it works for you, however the progs I mentioned do it much faster and give you control over what you copy, which can result in a better picture ratio, that is, closer to the 1:1 ratio we all covet. A 1:1 ratio would theoretically result in a backup as good in terms of quality, as the original. That is why I personaly use those progs, which have trials and are fairly priced. Bottom line - I say to each his own.
     
  16. halfhere

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    @brobear
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    I'm curious as to where it origingated. Usually the industry is pretty tight on the releases and most aren't available till release date.
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    absolutely right. I used to work at blockbuster though and we would 98% of the time recieve movies a little over 1 week in advance, but however on bigger movies (the other 2%)we would recieve them close to 1 month before their release date. We would then be allowed to bring them home.
     
  17. brobear

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    Why 2 transcoders? I didn't say other software wouldn't do backups; just that AnyDVD has consistently been the quickest for updates and easiest to use. As for Shrink, I'm sure you didn't use that for bypassing the copyright protection. Obsolete software just doesn't handle the new protection schemes. DVDFab Express must be up to date for what you were doing.

    Now that AnyDVD has been updated to 5.9.5.3 it claims the processing for compliance is no longer needed. I just got my copy of Narnia, so I'll give the new version a try and see.
     
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  18. sllyrbbt

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    I burned Narnia using CloneDVD2 only....worked like a charm! I couldn't use DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink..kept getting error messages....will use CloneDVD2 or DVD FabExpress for future Dvd's.
     
  19. sllyrbbt

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    I used Dvd FabExpress for Capote and Geisha....didn't have to use anything but good old Dvd Shrink for King Kong...didn't have a problem burning that one.

    Does anyone know how a dual layer burner works...I just put in a HP Dual Layer w/Light scribe. Does that mean I don't have to shrink the movies to burn them??? Any help greatly appreciated.
     
  20. cincyrob

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    @ sllyrbbt
    you dont have to shrink them if you use DL disc thats what make duel layer great i have the same burner
     

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