No it didnt confuse me more. Thanks! Allright i got AnyDvd. I will get FixVTS. Hopefully that works. What would you reccomend I do? I only have a couple of Dual Layer disks left, and I dont want to get another bad quality burn.
As for Dual layer, once you have it ripped and burn at no compression, I don't know how you'd improve on that. When transcoding to a DVD5 (4.7) you can cut all the dead wood possible to improve the compression ratio. I noticed just choosing a single audio, such as Dolby instead of keeping the DTS along with it, and then going with a single language a person can move from the red to the green in CloneDVD 2. Cutting extras and going with movie only helps as well. I use RB/CCE for encoding and do the entire disc and don't worry about it. The quality is so good, I don't pick up errors viewing on a 60" screen.
godWTF simply use clonedvd2 (free trial) and anydvd (free trial) and you WILL get any movie Narnia or whatever in 1/2 hour or so, no muss no fuss. If cloneDVD2 is hanging, reboot. You wont waste a disc w/ those 2. make sure anydvd comes up and reads narnia or whatever in your drive. Bring it up and it will tell you if it sees it. If it doesn't you got another problem, bad disc most likely, if it does, you're in bidness, just use 1st or 2nd option on clonedvd2. 1st option allows you to pick and choose what on the disc you want to copy, 2nd option does whole disc. Thats it. Tried not to confuse you, as it's really simple. Brobear...... I have yet to meet a movie I could not get with clonedvd2, anydvd, and region free + css in 1/2 hour. The superbit was an actual movie, claimed all kind of stuff "superbit", HD, et al, because I rented it and saw for myself, it was a re-make of The Mask of Zorro, or the one before the latest Zorro. You can most likely find it at the local vid store, if you care to see what claims it makes. As for the other stuff, what say we cross that bridge if/when we come to it. I can't imagine somebody not being able to reverse engineer whatever they come up with. Certainly not going to lose any sleep over it =)) happy burning folks mcmenace
I'm not losing any sleep either. As for reverse engineering, I just wonder at what cost for some of the new things. For the Vista ready hardware, that's simply a matter of buying in if you want to use the OS to view the new HD releases. XP isn't slated to be capable of handling the new HD, so that isn't an option. As you said, on down the road, but part of our problems is already a sure thing. As for the copyright protection, that's still a bit up in the air, but according to everything known, it won't be anything as easy as the CSS encryption and current copyright protections. At what cost?
DVD Decrypter and Shrink will do Narnia alone as long as it is ripped in the ISO R mode. I went back to check out what ZebUK was talking about on the ISO file mode with DVD Decrypter. I'd accidentally left the AnyDVD on with CSS cracking on. One of those cases where the 2 don't play well together. With Narnia, this method works. The error isn't severe enough to prevent the files from processing when opened as a disc image. Shrink makes minor repairs, many of us have used it in the past instead of FixVTS or VobBlanker. So, for this one, a person can use only DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, as long as it is ripped in the ISO R mode. This is more a rarity than the norm. Try "The Fog", "The Legend of Zorro" and a number of other similarly protected releases from Region 1 and this will not work. It's been tried and proven that it requires editing for a lot of Arccoss, Ripguard protected releases.
I was NOT able to backup Narnia using Nero Recode w/ running AnyDVD in the background. Got some message saying file was too big to fit on disc(4.7GB). I was able to back it up though, ripping Narnia to HD using AnyDVD. Then opening file & using Nero Recode to burn to disc. I guess AnyDVD got rid of all those bad or bogues files first, so I was able to put onto disc. Never had that problem before w/ any other movies ? Glad that AnyDVD now has that rip to HD option.
Brobear... Being more new than veteran to this thread, I appreciate the input. Having read through this long thread made me think this was needed the mother of all hacks...just wanted some to know that (hopefully) it will be a simpler process than using 3+ programs. Thanks!
I was able to do "Narnia" with the help of "AnyDVD". I've been using DVDecryptor and DVDShrink for about a year, but Narnia was probably the 3rd movie I've ever had a problem with. AnyDVD works though, between that, Shrink, and the Burn, it took about an hour.
As I mentioned, it's mostly in how you handle the files. AnyDVD will work with CloneDVD 2 and only the 2 are needed for Narnia, Region 1. With Recode the files have to be ripped to the HD and processed before use for transcoding. AnyDVD or any other way it can be done doesn't matter. With DVD Decrypter, the rip in ISO R will work for this particualar release. Don't expect it to work all the time, because it's been proven not to. Shrink will open the disc image on this one and transcode. In File mode with DVDD, the files won't open in Shrink and the files on the HD need processing for compliance first. All a person needs to realize on this release is that with some software the files have to be processed for compliance. At the first hint of a problem, do it and the problems should disappear.
@Jigen - - did you find out what happened to the post you thought i'd removed ?. Anyway, no-one's out to silence or belittle anyone who thinks the free tools can't quite do the job anymore, quite the opposite; you'll find most of us here still use and highly respect the likes of DVD Decrypter/Shrink et al. what we're debating are the details, ie if someone claims stuff like or similar to 'this worked for me, thus it MUST work for everyone else' then we need to correct those incorrect assumptions, that's all. In some cases yes of course those assumptions are correct, there are some films that are still able to be done by DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink alone. While it's on my mind, re the link i posted, i'm not betlittling the main poster in there ('2OldGeek' re the ISO method), i'm just saying that was an epic thread where the details were battled out and in this instance, DVD Decrypter sort of lost, even though it was a foregone conclusion that Decrypter actually needed some help either from PSL files or whatever. No shame or hate in that, it's gonna happen to a product that is no longer supported/even no longer able to be supported properly. goodburn / blepp - no talk about rental discs pls..that's edging into Piracy ever so slightly..
I am new to this forum, having been a long time user of DVD XCopy, which I have used without any problems until I bought and tried to backup Chronicles of Narnia. Having read many (not all - who has that kind of time?) of the posts regarding making a copy of that movie, I have done it successfully using DVDFab Decrypter and DVD Shrink. I tried just DVD Shrink at first, but it would fail trying to decrypt the movie. After reading about AnyDVD, DVD Decrypter and DVDFab Decrypter, I downloaded them all and then decided to first try out the one that was both free and not currently owned by a company that doesn't want me using it. The decryption of the complete DVD using DVDFab Decrypter took a very long time (I didn't time it because I didn't think it would take that long, but I would estimate that it was over an hour to decrypt). I don't recall doing much as far as settings go, just used defaults. Once it was decrypted, I used DVD Shrink for the first time. I normally copy only the movie because that's all I really need in a backup (keeps the kids from ruining the original). However, I decided to experiment with what DVD Shrink offers, and I was able to successfully copy the entire DVD, absent of alternate languages. The resulting copy used approx. 67% compression, and the results looked surprisingly good. I then made a movie- and English-only copy and the compression was around 80%, also looks great. I read about a lot of people that used Nero, which I have, after the DVD Shrink step, but I found that to be unnecessary. At some point I will probably try AnyDVD since I've read a lot of good things about it, and it might be faster than DVDFab Decrypter. BTW, I always use TDK or Verbatim media, and never have a problem. The burns were done using a Sony DRU-820A onto 4x +RW (whole DVD) and 16x -R (movie only), and the source was a Region 1 DVD.
Would this method work for Narnia? Rip with DVD Decrypter in ISO mode with Anydvd running in the background and then burn the ISO to a dual layer disk. I basically want to get this backed up on a dual layer verb...so what would be the best method? Can you do it as an ISO or do you have to go in FILE mode(video_ts folder etc.)?
@socrates9 Do not use AnyDVD in the background with Decrypter. Use Decrypter in iso read mode and you will get your rip. Back a couple pages on this thread I posted my rip log from Decrypter done without AnyDVD and you will see that it rips fine. If you use AnyDVD in the background you will get packheader errors, because of the removed cells. Then open the MDS ouput file and use Decrypter in iso write mode a usual.
Arniebear With SPTI selected, CSS cracking off, and Check for Copy Protection off, DVD Decrypter can be used with AnyDVD in ISO R mode. Those are the preferred Slysoft settings for DVD Decrypter to be used with AnyDVD. That will work with all DVDs in both ISO and File mode. With Narnia, DVD Decrypter will rip the release in either ISO R or File mode. With ISO R, I suspect that the files can be burned with no compression, though I haven't tried it. DVD Shrink corrects some compliance errors, so even though the ISO R files will transcode with Shrink, they may or may not burn by themselves. A rip with DVDD in File mode requires the files to be processed for compliance. I've been playing around with Narnia and have tried it different ways with different software, except to burn DL and I dont' think it's worth the DL to do it. To answer Socrates9's question, yes you can rip with AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter (preferred Slysoft settings) in ISO and then burn the files to a DL disc. I encoded the files ripped in this manner with RB/CCE. So, if they'll encode, they should burn.
@brobear Slysoft suggests not using SPTI but to choose the ElbyCDIO as your I/O setting, not that I think it makes a difference I have not changed mine, but this is what is listed for their reqs.
Not according to what's written in the AnyDVD change.txt. Note the bold text. 5.9.1.1, 2006 02 15 - Important: When installing this version over an existing installation, you must reboot your machine. Otherwise the changes made in the AnyDVD device driver will not have any effect! - New: Added workaround for DVDShrink / Nero Recode "Out of memory" error when copying Macrovision RipGuard protected discs with menus, e.g. "Madagascar" R1 (US) - New: Error zones on RipGuard/Arccos/PuppetLock protected titles are now replaced with "valid material". 3rd party tools like DVDDecrypter will now work better (no more "Pack Header Error" messages - another try, this time it should really work). [bold]- Note: To use DVDDecrypter with AnyDVD set I/O Model to SPTI or ElbyCDIO. Set CSS Cracking method to none. Disable checking for structure protection.[/bold] - New: Added "AnyDVD Ripper". This little tool repairs defective DVDs while copying them to your harddisk. It can be started from the menu of the AnyDVD fox icon. It can be started as a stand alone application from the start menu as well, so it can be used even if AnyDVD is not registered and the trial period has expired. It is identical to FixVTS (http://www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS/) but instead of fixing problems "in place" it copies the files to your harddisk directly from the source DVD. It fixes the problems while the files are copied. Some DVDs which have severe mastering defects e.g., "Menace II Society" R1 (US) can now be copied with all DVD copy tools (elby CloneDVD, DVDShrink, etc.) Many thanks to the author of FixVTS! - Fix: Hang after update check with some system configurations - Some minor fixes and improvements - Updated languages Since the normal Microsoft interface is SPTI and Slysoft recommends SPTI or Elby, I just suggest the one that should already be in use with Windows. It's okay to use the Elby, but not required.
