question about my processor

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  1. stylist99

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    so you think that is a good price for that computer?

    I live in central pennsylvania
     
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    A Pentium D system is OK, but the best performance is to be had with a Core 2 Duo. For a PC that cheap, the dual core processor is going to be a D805, and while they're good for enthusiasts who Overclock them like mad, for the average user, they're not all that great with regard to performance, and even with using both cores at once, they run maybe 30% faster than a good Pentium 4. Per processor, it's more like having two Celerons than two Pentiums.
     
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    so what should I be looking for in a computer then, for what i use it for?
     
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    Whenever you do video work, you want:
    High power CPU (preferably dual core if you multitask or use a dual-core enabled application)
    Intermediate amount of RAM, 1GB is the norm, 2GB if you really do a lot or if you do other things whilst encoding video, games etc., otherwise one is fine
    Large Hard disk - not huge, but maybe 250GB to ensure you don't run out of room fast. Those sort of drives are barely more than any other size below them now, hence why I recommend them, In particularly the WD Caviar 250GB SE16.
    Decent Power supply - Antec, Seasonic, Hiper, Enermax, OCZ, people like that, trusted brands only, we won't discuss the or else on that one! Suffice to say I've been there.
    Graphics card isn't greatly important unless you do lots of capturing with it, in which case get an ATI All In Wonder series.
     
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    i would recommend a pentium 4 or core 2 also amd x64 cpu's pentium d isnt all that bad it will give u a performance boost from the pentium 4
     
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    LOL 250gb whever you get more hard drive room oyu will use more for eg my old pentium 3 only has 20gb and i would use it before and not go under 4gb of free space left my p4 now has 300gb and i use 170gb doing the same stuff this is cause when the limit is lower you will always try to make everything mor efficient but when you have more room you wont start thinking before its nearly full same goes with money
     
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    i prefer F1 racing, you will find me at the melbourne grand prix every year i started goin in 1997
     
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    The Core 2 Duo is the current best CPU, but for people who leave the systems stock, the Athlon64 X2 is an excellent competitor, and both leave the Pentium D in the dust behind. Yes they are better than no dual core at all, but for the price you can get a 3800+, 4200+ or E6300 for, the Pentium Ds just don't make the grade for how much they cost. Free hard disk space is a temptation, I never thought I'd fill 13GB with my first PC, but I filled a 160, 200 and half of a 500 RAID array before. My current 250's approaching half full. Thing is, needs change. Back when I first got the 13GB, I only had dialup, and games were a pretty small affair, a big one being 200MB. Now with Broadband I'm forever downloading things, and modern games now take up between 2 and 4GB each.
     
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    And I'm pretty sure a DVD back-up takes about 8GB of space if you're doing back-ups.

    I wouldn't worry TOO much on this end of the tech food chain about getting bang for buck unless you're hard pressed for cash. I suppose getting a pre-built computer is the easier path at this point... I'll find something for you.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883103017

    Plenty of Hard Drive space... fast with video work...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883103011

    A bit cheaper... just as fast methinks and plenty of bang for your buck.


    And Dazila... a few tips. 1) Separate your sentences with periods like this. 2) No double or triple posting like that. Just edit your message and add on to it. 3) For Pete's sake man, learn to spell!


     
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    The latter machine is a nice and powerful single-core machine, Fast CPU, enough RAM, large hard disk, and a competent video accelerator, believe it or not.
    The former machine is an adequate Dual core system, reasonable CPU, bundles of RAM, but can't do on-the-fly CD/DVD copies with only one drive, and can't run any games of any weight at all, whether or not that's relevant I don't know. Unless there is a definite advantage to having a dual core with lots of memory, the AS series PC is a better buy.
     
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    You shouldn't give the Pentium Ds such a bad rap. They are very adequate and were better priced before the AMD dual cores were. I like 'em I just also like my 3800+.
     
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    I can't say I agree with that, yes there were and still area Pentium Ds that are cheaper than X2s, but they were of no comparison performance-wise. A D805 has to be significantly overclocked to match a 4200+ stock.
     
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    K i wil sepl wht mi bst ayblity

    Nah jokes I will seriously.

    The best thing for her i say is get a pentium 4 with descent size of ram and hardrive and a pretty good graphics card like an ati radeon x800 series and she will be fine for movie editing.

    What started as trying to upgrade an old celeron turned into a whole new pc upgrade lol!

    The first acer pc the one for 949 is pretty good but the 950gma is pretty crap, if she has kids i reckon they might want to play a few games now and then
     
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    A recent benchmark I looked at compared the GMA950 to one of the cheaper graphics cards you can buy, an nVidia GeForce 6200 with TurboCache, which are generally regarded as pretty slow. In most of the games test the 6200 was 200 to 1200 percent faster, and the GMA950 was completely unable to run three of the games at all.
     
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    okay, I have 4 kids, three boys and one girl. The boys are all grown up, moved out, married, and one them has given me a beautiful grandson! My daughter is almost 14, and the only one left at home. We don't really play any video games because I am on the computer doing things all the time. Occasionally, I let her get on here to IM her friends. LOL So what I'm saying is that we don't play games on here, but maybe sometime in the future, who knows. With my computer now, I put in a 80gb harddrive as my bootable drive, and then just recently add a 200gb hard drive as storage, I only have 64gb of free space left! It is funny that I thought I'd get on here and ask some experts about upgrading this slow computer, and now I find out that I have to basically buy a whole new one. My husband wasn't too happy about that but he knows I live on this computer and it is important to me, so the hunt is on for the one that is right for me.
     
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    Nobody's forcing you to, but an old saying is "don't expect to come to afterdawn and not spend some money". You could upgrade that old system, but not really far enough to make a noticeable difference. The systems suggested here would outclass that one between 7 and 12 times over. Duly noted about the games. The D940 is the more powerful system technically, but ONLY if you multitask a lot or use big programs. If the only processor-hungry program you use is single-threaded you could save some money by getting the AMD system.
     
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    Well, I am here looking for help. I need to find a new system, so could you explain exactly what the AMD system is? I'm sorry, I am just learning about this from you guys, so I also want to say thank you.
     
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883103011
     
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    I have tried 6 or 7 times to click on the links that you put up here, but it won't load. It just says,"page cannot be displayed" how else can I get to this?
     

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