Ricoh Type 74 (2) made in EU (No ATIP information on burned CDR for my burner :-( ), see picture at http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/ricoh.shtml Burned 04/28/2000 on a Yamaha 6416S Last tracks dead, like the Mitsuis.
Let's summarize, so far we have those dead : No name made by Fornet Samsung made by CMC Samsung made by Seantram No name made by Multi Media Masters & Machinery SA Mitsui SG Mitsui Golden Dye Mitsui gold Sony made by Mitsui Kodak Gold Color Kodak gold-bottomed (not greenish bottom) (from http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/8133) Targa made by Lead Data Ricoh ? made by Ritek TDK Koch made by ? Traxdata made by ? No name made by Princo Memorex made by ? (from http://www.audio-illumination.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=20&t=3462&st=25#entry35754 ) No Verbatim yet !
Add Maxell (made by Ritek ?), according to http://www.audio-illumination.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=20&t=3462&st=25 Also, no Tayo Yuden either for the time being
I use HiSpace made by MPO, but the MPO pthalocyanine is too young on the market (2 years ?) to tell if the dye dies.
New one, reported by Madah : http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?&act=ST&f=20&t=4147&st=50&hl= Pioneer Video : Manufacturer : Pioneer Code : 97m27s31f Disc Type : CD-R Usage : General Recording Layer : Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO) Recording Speed : n/a Capacity : 74:50.01 657 MB Additional Capacity : n/a Overburn Capacity : not tested Burned in 1998.
Hope you guys don't mind me butting in here, slightly off key, but I have found that sometimes my DVD player which runs at a slower speed will actually work on CD's I thought had died. Interesting to me is the info you guys have about your discs, and I thought price was the only factor? I will let you carry on now.
Some of my Mitsuis are completely dead for sure. I used one to check the C2 accuracy of my drives : http://pageperso.aol.fr/lyonpio2001/dae/dae.htm
Mine have no physical damage. You can read all the posts and links by yourself, I've got no more info. It seems that most posters paid attention to this. Several of them states that their CD has no visible damage.
Verbatim Valuelife ATIP: 97m 26s 66f Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp. Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine) nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849) not only is there major slowdowns while reading, but recently the backs have started falling off of them im seriously considering reburning them all, if any are still readable
BTC CD-R 74min/650MB 4X, 2X, 1X ATIP: 97m 22s 18f Disc Manufacturer: Seantram Technology Inc. Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine) Media type: CD-Recordable Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown nominal Capacity: 650.83MB (74m 05s 00f / LBA: 333225) The disc is in perfect conditions but it's completely unreadable. Junk.
It's was burned in 1999 and some time ago it was still readable. I managed to recover the files today with CD-R Diagnostic, but Windows cannot see the CD-R at all, it just keeps trying forever. I have another BTC CDR burned in '99 that it's showing a lot of errors with Nero CD Speed.
CDR's can grow some type of fungus on the dye. When this happens, the CDR become unreadable. It doesnt matter on how you store them!! There was a site that wanted fungus infeasted CDR's to see what types of fungus they are and y they grow. I forgot the site but if i find it i will let you guys know.
Ok, prolly a noob response here, but wouldn't a methodology be warranted here? Is it possible that our faster than bejeezus drives are having something to do with these poor relics' readability? Does storage placement/type warrant looking into? Before we all go off the deep end thinking our Maxells, mitsui golds, etc. are Going to fail, it seems to me that we should narrow the variables wherever possible. I have Misui golds, Maxell HK's & Riteks, TDK riteks, and Ricohs. I decided to test all my oldest cd's, and had Not One failure (1997-98, 2x burn speed). My disks live in a humid basement, and are contained in tyvec sleeves, with the flap inside. They have not been moved or used much at all. The Pioneer DVD has no problems reading them, but it would not be my first choice to determine CD validity. My Plextor 8/20 had no probs, and both it and the plex 32 were able to provide ATIP info, when my Pioneer was not. I did not bother to hook up my old Ricoh, but if any Had failed, I certainly would have given that a try. Since this is not a fail message, I'll forego the 6 ATIPs unless someone thinks they are of value. I don't know what sort of list we could compile to narrow the variables, but it seems like it would be very helpful. my noob .02
Though I'm not sure of the fine details of the disc, I have found Dysan CD-R's (1-4x) to be of low quality...However the rich blue color makes for a great coaster for your mini bar!
Tayo Yuden reported dead here : http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?act=ST&f=20&t=7614& Not sure if it comes from the CDR or the drive, though...