Hi Ferg long time no see mate I know a few people up there but you could be right with regards to the Laytown/Bettystown scenario where some are Ch**us and others are N**. Bit of a by product of the old CMI legacy some people have the pleasure of living with. As I also have been scratching my head in relation to Balbriggan as I know the people who told me should know there stuff But yet some people in that area cant get DVB C boxes to work. Best bet would be to check a neighbour's box and see if its either a Sagem or Pace. And if it says ITD on the label underneath it.