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Returning My Samsung BDP1000 BluRay Player Tomorrow

Discussion in 'HD DVD discussion' started by dblbogey7, Jun 22, 2006.

  1. BluRay

    BluRay Regular member

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    Hey BR is still fairly new and still in its early stages, so give it time.
    HD-DVD on the other hand is more similar in many ways to regular DVD's so MS and other companies have a better chance in releasing a first time good quality picture.
    Dont critisize Sony, becuase dont forget who actualy invented DVD's and was in its main development!!! SONY.
     
  2. VJbob

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    I'm confused. Is the VC-1 codec (as opposed to the MPEG2 in Blu Ray) that makes the Toshiba and HD-DVD player a superior DVD upconverter? I'm not sure if its the codec, Toshiba itself, or the HD-DVD format that allows for superior standard DVD upconversion.

    If the issue is with the codec, is it then possible that when Blu-Ray adopts a superior codec that it will have a superior DVD upconverter at 1080p (and will 1080p really make a visible difference compared with upconverted 1080i)?
     
  3. dblbogey7

    dblbogey7 Guest

    The VC-1 codec has nothing to do with standard DVD upconversion. VC-1 is the codec used by HD-DVD's.

    Maybe Ced can give us a quick tutorial on DVD upconversion, scaling and codecs. ;)
     
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  4. JoeRyan

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    Toshiba is using high quality circuitry in their players, but they skimped a bit on build quality. Samsung, on the other hand, skimped on circuitry and built a more solid player. Up conversion depends on the internal chips chosen, not the decoder. Blu-ray has several things against it: 1) the first player has some problems with settings; 2) the discs are encoded in MPEG-2 rather than the more advanced MPEG-4; 3) the discs cost more to make and have much lower yield rates than HD DVD--double layer Blu-ray is extremely difficult to make; 4) players require a glass lens ($90 just last December) and near-field recording that made Sony put the first discs in a cartridge to protect them and now has to hard-coat them. Blu-ray aimed at 25GB because it had to--MPEG-2 took up too much capacity. HD DVD adopted DVDs structure, not its compression; and that meant it was easier and safer to make a 15GB disc rather than push the limits of molding technology.

    Back in 1996 it was MMCD (Sony/Philips) vs. SD (NEC/Toshiba/Warner) that promised a format war. One side gave in to the other to reach consensus on what became the DVD. It was NEC/Toshiba/Warner that one that skirmish.
     
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  5. dblbogey7

    dblbogey7 Guest

    If you want better build quality you can get the Toshiba HD-XA1. It has the same internal components as the A1 but has better build:

    * RS-232 port for control
    * Motorized Front
    * Motion Activated Backlit Remote
    * Large insulated stabilizing feet
    * All extruded aluminum construction (double wall)

    Practically all HD-DVD releases (maybe except the combo ones) are dual layer 30 GB discs.
     
  6. eatsushi

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    @VJBob:

    Here's a good explanation on Upscaling or Upconverting:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=477740

     

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