Shy Channels on sat with dreambox 500s

A cline or C:line basicaly are your login details to a CS server,...they look something like this...
C: mycardsharingserver.com username password
it's quite a big learning curve & asking somebody to set you up is not going to help you in the long run when you need to improve & adjust your settings,..don't try to take short cuts,..if your going to get involved in it roll your sleeves up & start googleing,..afterdawn is not a forum where you'll find all the information you need.
start here.. credit to OP for the tut below
Q. What is cardsharing?
Hopefully this thread will help complete beginners to understand more.

Cardsharing, card shares, 'sharing' and 'CS' are commonly used to describe the method of using a smartcard (or cards) over a network. In practical terms an original legitimate subscription card could be used in a receiver; then another box that is in another room, or even a thousand miles away, could access the smartcard via 'local network' or 'internet' to clear channels that the subscription card allows.

So no sharing needs to be involved, its purely access to a remote card that isnt actually plugged into your own card slot, that we refer to with the phrase 'cardshare'.

This method has existed for many years and not new, even though the majority of people have not heard of it. Talk of 'sharing' is banned on many forums and a taboo subject due to its obvious possible illegal uses.

Cardshare or card-over-network is not illegal per se, but it is the use of the method that can be against Uk and international law and generally everyone in the Uk wants to ask "so how do i get free sky?" which is just direct illegal discussion that could lead to the closure of any Uk forum. Teaching someone directly how to 'steal' is also a prosecutable offence, so posts are often removed for safety of the helpful members too.
##Lets make this clear, cardsharing has nothing to do with Sky branded equipment whatsoever, but yes the method does work with Uk smartcards so we cannot condone anyone wishing to use cardshare information to commit crime##

Q. So what do I need?
Firstly you need equipment that is networkable, such as Dreambox and similar linux based satellite products. These receivers have ethernet connection in the same way as computers do, and have ability to use developed software to send and receive information.

Over the years of development many versions of software have evolved and names such as Newcs, Cccam, Mgcamd, Gbox, Newcamd and others have gained popularity due to their ability to network-share. Legal practical use has allowed the subject to expand and even top brand names like PACE, Amstrad, etc, now use the idea to develop new hardware for the future. Legal benefit to networking is you are able to pay for an encrypted package and then watch with a receiver of your choice in your own home and no longer need to keep taking the card in and out and forgetting where it is etc, or use a favourite machine that doesnt have a supported cam/cardslot. 'Grey area' use also includes using over the internet too, because if you PAY for subscription and then watch a channel in your holiday home whilst your card remains at home, how can you be committing a crime? Its not piracy or theft because you are legally paying for the privilege to watch.

Q. How does it work?
For receivers to communicate over a network they need to be configured. Firstly a box needs to know where the card will be located. This hardware holding the card is known as the 'server' or 'cardserver' or 'host' and relates to whatever equipment physically hosts the smartcard. Other receivers without the smartcard directly inserted are known as the 'clients'.
Standard computer based IP address format is used for real-world location, which acts like telephone numbers for internet connectivity in the same way our pc's work all over the world. So 1 box knows where another is by direct IP number etc.

Each of the software cams mentioned (Gbox, Cccam, Newcamd etc) use 'protocol' or language that is specific to that product. Some cams are able to 'talk' to others, but this can be limited so usually each receiver will keep the same software cam. However, this part is where different development has taken place to give wider suitability and capability.

Eg. As example we will use 'Newcs' as the card server on a machine we'll call 'North'. So a machine running this software hosts an original subscription card. Now Newcs 'talks' in newcamd protocol, meaning it can communicate with other receivers with software speaking the same digital language.
1 satellite receiver we'll call 'East' uses Mgcamd as its soft-cam. This receiver will be set as a 'client' and does not have a card.
Another satellite receiver we'll call 'South' uses Cccam as its soft-cam This receiver will also be configured as a client to 'North'.
A 4th receiver we'll call 'West' and this also uses Cccam and is configured as a client to 'North'.
>>So this example is nice and simple, all 4 satellite receivers would be able to view channels that the subscription card in receiver 'North' allows. Mgcamd and Cccam are both popular and both able to communicate with Newcs so all is well.

This is the point 'shares' can become more complex and the 'sharing' description more relevant. What happens if South has a different subscription card in its slot that would be good to allow the other receivers to access? Well this means that South will be a Server as well as a client. Using the same soft-cam makes things very easy, it is a simple process to add a line of numbers into West to make it a client, and add a line of numbers into South so that allows West the access. At this point in the example, the result would be that North and East only clear Card1 channels, but both South and West equipment clears Card1 channels and Card2 channels too.

There are options for North & East, its not as complicated as it seems, its just a process of configuring each receiver again and all being on a protocol that each box understands, but sometimes trying to imagine 50 or 100 receivers is a harder task. The point to make is that the method is the same and its not really relevant how complicated it can get, cardsharing is all about the possibilities.

Finally, modern cardsharing can be about paying for access to a share, or splitting costs of a subscription between friends etc. This is where the line is crossed and something legal becomes a criminal offence. Discussion of the technique on this forum allows us understanding and allows progress with multi-card & multi-client development but you will not find details of commercial servers here. If you want to break the law just to get free or cheap access to Uk Tv channels then you need your favorite search engine to help you. Additionally you should always be aware of scammers who abuse the private message function of forums to find new and gullible clients.

 

Thanks Lenny I understand it a bit better, but i have been reading all the treads and unless you know a bit about setting it up you can get lost, again many thanks.

 

I can get lost can I ?,...very nice,.what part of my reply upset you,..the red text maybe ?.

 

lol @ lenny

re-read his post, he is not tellin ya to get get lost mate, he is just is just saying unless ya know a bit ya can get lost! lol

Great post Lenny as per usual. Now whether peeps actually read it is another matter!

 

FFS ! your right MICKAH,..appoliges to Rooney123 also, but as you will know the dreambox/linux boxes are a bit more tricky to set up & there is realy no way one can impart all the knowledge required over a post by post thread, for someone with no prior knowledge there is a big learning curve involved regarding networking,ip address, C:lines, F:lines, images,bootloaders,ftp but once learned it will all become easy.

 

Hi ya lenny123..Do you know any good cardhare sites im in Dublin...Thanks

 

Hi ya Hubabuba..i have a friend for me to set it for me..But when i get it set up will give you a shout im in south Dublin to

 

No 1..spend the extra money & get a clone dreambox 800HD,..if your going to pay for access to a cardserver the HD channels are included, PM sent.

 

lenny what dish you using? what set up ya got?

 

Please excuse me guys for changing the subject, if I got two boxes from nthell, both with sports and movies, multi-room, could I give my daughter one of the boxes?

 

Sorry my apologies i should have made it clearer, I was saying unless u know some thing about setting the actual machine up, one would get lost, in the setup of the unit, sorry Lenny if you picked it up wrong.

rooney i will watch the tread thanks.

 

Hi All, I have a s*y sub and want to share on my LAN. Just bought two DM500S boxes and was hoping someone could help out. Was going to use Nabilo image as heard Gemini will 'brick' clones. Thx

 

be careful mate what you post about CS and specifically about you sharing the sub, the walls have ears ; - )

did the boxs not come with Gemini loaded?

 

Thx Mickah

The boxes came with enigma loaded.

 

Hi all,

Very interesting thread! I have a few “hypothetical” questions:

Suppose someone was using card-sharing to share a shy subscription, wouldn't they have to put their card into their host receiver (e.g. dreambox). Doesn’t the card need to be in the shy box in order to update?

Secondly, don’t all shy installations require the box to be connected to a phone line? How could we be sure that the shy box doesn’t send usage statistics down the phone line. It would be easy to analyze the usage stats to figure out that the original shy box was only being used to update the card (not being watched).

Am I completely missing something? Probably, but would love some clarification (regarding the hypothetical problem)

Thanks

 

Hello Every one

just wordering if any 1 can point me in the right direction iv been looking in to this i thinking about going down this route please could some one tell me the best site for this is satcarsharing.com a gd one or not
many thanks for any help

Craig

 

avoid.. useless... keeps freezing .. better off sharing with few of ur mates instead.. 6 people max

 

Hey Craig your best bet is to go to cardshare.tv or cs-kings. Read up on the various servers and people opinions of these. Then try out a test.
Thats what I did and now have a very stable server with all the packs I was looking for.

As mentioned earlier stay clear of satcardsharing or any site dedicated to one server as you won't get honest opinion.

 

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