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Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by Oriphus, Jul 19, 2003.

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  1. mrsheen03

    mrsheen03 Regular member

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    i know its not just about the money we are shit compare to man u, real madrid thats why we need some time to start showing people what we can do with all these new names, and dont tell me it does not matter about money because it does!
     
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  3. Oriphus

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    Bloody hell, its eerily alike!!
     
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    Wow the resemblance is great ;-) hehe

    Anyways back to the main discussion, if u believe money will push chelsea to one of the best in the world then I believe you are wrong. It's all about reputation. And you can build reputation by winning trophies, something Manchester United have done a lot of!
     
  5. SabreLord

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    Are you forgetting that Real Madrid started the same way Chelsea is forming. Spanish soccer used to be dominated by Barcelona. Real Madrid made some classy transfers and have eclipsed Barcelona big time by spending big bucks.

    Chelsea can achieve the same, once you sign that big name player, everyone wants to join your club.
     
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    Man , are you smoking something?? Real Madrid was founded in 1902 and since then it has won all of these:

    Copa Intercontinental: 1960, 1998, 2002

    Copa de Europa Champions' League: 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1966, 1998, 2000, 2002

    Copa de la UEFA: 1985, 1986

    Supercopa de Europa: 2002

    Campeonato Nacional de Liga: 1932, 1933, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1972, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2003

    Copa del Rey: 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1917, 1934, 1936, 1946, 1947, 1962, 1970, 1974, 1975, 1980, 1982, 1989, 1993

    So i ask again, are you on drugs lol. they have been winning major trophies since 2 years after their formation! Chelsea dont have the history or stature, or world wide fan base to enable them to become a club like the great three mentioned previously. They would be doing well to even compete with clubs like FC Porto and Real Betis on a world stage. Even River Plate would have a far larger fan base! Does someone disagree?? Bring it on......:D
     
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    I;m not saying chelsea cant grow to that level, i'm more than sure they can but it will take a looooong time :)
     
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    i agree with SabreLord and dela it will take along time to become like man u and real Madrid, but we are getting fans from all over the world because the big names that are coming. yeh we dont have the history but it dont mean we cant make history, Man u did not start off the best club they worked for it just like chelsea are going to!
     
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    Yeah, but you said on the next few years. that was my point!
     
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    LOL.....ok mayb 4/5/6/7 years we will just have to wait and see!
     
  11. SabreLord

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    I reckon Chelsea will grow big fast. At the moment I would put them on par with Arsenal and Man Utd. All this balony about the team needing to gel, with superstars like Crespo and Veron who have already played together in the past. Lampard and Cole who again played together. Chelsea are there!

    When Chelsea drew with Blackburn, everyone criticised them and said they weren't ready, then Man Utd went and lost to Southampton.

    Spending over £100 million will make a huge difference, remember when Lazio spent £80 million in one season, look what it did for them.

    What happens if Man Utd or Arsenal get 4 key players injured? Anything can happen this season. With Romans 'spend spend spend' philosophy and Arsenal/Man Utd's 'save, save, save' the teams could look very different in no time at all.

     
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    Im not worrying yet on Man Utd coming below Chelsea in the league. Ir eally cant see it happening. If the club starts to lose its way - Peter Kenyan will quickly tell BSKYB to splash out a hundred million on making the team stronger. Its not a problem. Thats why it is better to be owned by a multi billion dollar company than a billionaire by assets!
     
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    Oriphus what do you think the table when end up as:
    1.MAN U
    1.?
    3.?
     
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    I think it will be Manu, then arsenal, then chelsea/liverpool/blackburn
     
  15. SabreLord

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    Blackburn definately have potential. Andy Cole is firing them in like there's no tomorrow and soon they will have Dino Baggio strengthning up their midfield with bags of experience.

    They also have experienced loan defender in Babbel, who incidently may play for them against his own team Liverpool, in a weird twist of the premier league rules.

    Only thing they truly lack is youth.
     
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    They do lack youth and one other vital ingredient: Damien Duff. Dino Baggio is a quality palyer, he should strengthen their possession and control.

    Ireland match is today - if someone wants to post when the England match is and on what skysports channel (UK time), id greatly appreciate it.
     
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    They do lack youth and one other vital ingredient: Damien Duff. Dino Baggio is a quality palyer, he should strengthen their possession and control.

    Ireland match is today - if someone wants to post when the England match is and on what skysports channel (UK time), id greatly appreciate it.
     
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    The England match was shit. All the news paper is about now days is daivd beckham they think he is the worlds best footballer he can only cross a ball and take sweet freekicks, thats all he can do and he is in ever page of the news paper!!
     
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    Peter Kenyon has gone to Chelsea - someone pass me my rifle!!
     
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    He will die, mark my words, if he dares to step anywhere near a united fan he's gonna get stabbed in the throat, fucken dickhead! loyal united fan my arse, someone string him up! _X_X_X_X_X_[small]http://www.BillLonero.com - Check out a true artists music!

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