SONY 720A is Killing Me !

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  1. creaky

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    Creaky and Alkohol,

    I deleted Record Now and My DVD, but that didn't help, so I decided to use the i-link instead of the USB. And the -R Media worked. I switched back to USB and ...you guessed it...Illegal disc error. I tried 3 different USB cables and plugged them into the front and back and they all made coasters.

    I don't think the media that I'm using is the problem becasue they burned with the i-link. Any suggestions? This I-link fix may stop working also.
     
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    Creaky and Alcohol,

    I tried to burn with DVD-R Media connected to the i-link and .... 2 more coasters.That didn't last long....HELP>>>>>>>>>>>
     
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    Can anyone help. I tried using DVD Decrypter Only. Below is my log.

    I 23:42:06 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
    I 23:42:06 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
    I 23:42:06 Initialising SPTI...
    I 23:42:06 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 23:42:07 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD+RW and 1 DVD±RW!
    I 23:42:30 Operation Started!
    I 23:42:30 Source File Sectors: 2,201,882 (MODE1/2048)
    I 23:42:30 Source File Size: 4,509,454,336 bytes
    I 23:42:30 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
    I 23:42:30 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-720A JY03 (F:) (1394)
    I 23:42:30 Destination Media Type: DVD-RW (Disc ID: RITEKW04) (Speeds: 4x)
    I 23:42:30 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
    I 23:42:30 Write Mode: DVD
    I 23:42:30 Write Type: SAO
    I 23:42:30 Write Speed: 2.4x
    I 23:42:30 Link Size: Auto
    I 23:42:30 Test Mode: No
    I 23:42:30 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 23:42:30 Filling Buffer...
    I 23:42:31 Writing LeadIn...
    I 23:42:57 Writing Image...
    W 23:46:26 Failed to Write Sectors 7808 - 7839 - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
    W 23:46:26 Retrying (1 of 20)...
    W 23:46:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
    W 23:46:26 Retrying (2 of 20)...


    Can you tell me what the SAO Write Type Is ?
    Do you see anything else incorrect?

    I need to get some sleep......

     
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    SAO = session at once. I'm only familiar with DAO (Disc at once) and TAO (Track at once). Found a couple real old links about SAO -
    http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=44178 - 3yr old link
    http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=52614 - ditto

    however i'm more interested in the i-link (firewire) and USB info you gave. Had a quick look, and found one similar link, one of the replies os actually from the author of Decrypter, Lightning UK -
    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=88372
    and another - http://club.cdfreaks.com/printthread.php?t=102725 - USB problem but worked internally ie like normal drive
     
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    @creaky,

    Is his burner an External or Internal DRU 720A? I'm lost here.....??? I still think the burner doesn't like the media here in the log.
     
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    it's an external 720UL...

    and hang on, i'd misread the i-link bit - looks like that's not working either.. yup, back to media i guess...
     
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    But why does it reads like this: 23:42:30 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-720A JY03 (F:) (1394)? For some reason, I thought that was an Internal drive.

    Yeah, it's definitely the media to me by looking at the log because I use DVD Decrypter a lot and all my successful burns never had mentioned something like that before. It is something with the format, and here it is, again: W 23:46:26 Failed to Write Sectors 7808 - 7839 - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
    W 23:46:26 Retrying (1 of 20)...
    W 23:46:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format


    Creaky, I see the media is a "DVD-RW RitekW04". Is that any good? I have never use Ritek before, so I can't really comment on this.
     
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    original poster verified the drive is a 720UL even though it says it's a 720A - it's the exact same drive as far as i know. as to the media, this particular one is a rewritable so i'm ignoring that for now (i don't worry too much about results from rewritables myself); he's had the drive swapped out before, so he should try Verbatim datalifeplus -R discs, but to do simulation burns so as not to waste any discs, or rely on rewritables..
     
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    Creaky, I wonder if DKDeluxe burned/backed up using "on the fly"?

    So, yeah... DKDeluxe, I would not recommend you do that. Can your burner at least "decrypt" or "rip" the original movie into your HD first? Is this issue in the process of ripping or burning? Again, what movie are you backing up?
     
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    Creaky and Alcohol, Thanks for all the help with this nightmare problem. The hook-up through the i-link is not working anymore, so I'm back to where I started from. I am not burning on the fly. The movies are on my hard drive. The burned to a disc. I used the "Drive check" file on SONY's website to see if there is a problem with my Burner. When I use a DVD+R disc to cehck the drive, it passes. When I use a DVD-R disc, it fails (It doesn't even complete the write process). After work I'm off to Best Buys to get the Verbatim DVD-R disc. Hopefully, I can find some RW's so I won't make so many coasters.

    What I really don't understand is how the SONY DVD-R disc burned flawlessly for weeks and now they won't.

    Sometime ago I got a few errors using shrink to decrypt, which changed my DMA settings. I corrected the settings and sine then, I've been having this problem with DVD-R Media. Could there be something that I missed?

    Props to you guys in advance................
     
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    could be, trouble is all i can do is go thru logfile etc and offer bits 'n bobs on the way. obviously you could reinstall Windows, or buy new burner etc etc, but all of that is typical Microsoft and a pain in the bum; luckily Nero's logfiles are pretty good so we go by those and generally get people going again. another thing to try 'might' be Nero info-tool, it generates miles of log info, great for stuff like this, but we could maybe attack that later.. at the end of the day if we get this sorted you may still be able to use those current discs anyway..
     
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    Creaky/Alkohol,

    I reinstalled my USB driver, reinstalled the firmware, purchased some Verbatim DVD-R media and got the same error. Please let me know if you see something.

    Thanks....Before I End it ALL......

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 10:03:20 AM
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.15
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 15h
    (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-720A> Version: JY03 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.15
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B>Version: 0D20 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.15
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : ST3160023AS iaStor Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD+RW ND-3100AD atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B D: CDRom0
    _NEC DVD+RW ND-3100AD E: CDRom1
    SONY DVD RW DRU-720A F: CDRom2
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1022MB (1046620kB)
    Free physical memory: 600MB (615188kB)
    Memory in use : 41
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    20.7.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    6:04:01 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    6:04:01 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    6:04:01 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6314
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    6:04:01 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    6:04:01 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    6:04:01 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer SONY DVD RW DRU-720A running

    6:04:02 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    6:04:02 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    6:04:02 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3231
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    6:04:02 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 269
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286223 (508:02.73, 4465MB)

    6:04:02 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    6:04:02 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2477
    Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-720A, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: MCC 02 - RG20
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    6:04:02 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 447
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    6:04:02 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286224 (2286224) = #2286224/508:2.74
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286224 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-720A]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    6:04:02 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
    Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-720A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4682186752, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286224 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    6:04:02 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    6:04:02 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4116
    Cache writing successful.

    6:04:02 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    6:04:02 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    6:04:02 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2643
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    6:04:02 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2357
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    6:04:02 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21663
    Set BUFE: Power-Burn -> ON , Adapt writespeed to disc : ON

    6:04:02 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2511
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    6:04:02 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8821
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    6:04:35 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
    18:04:35.109 - SONY DVD RW DRU-720A\H2 T0 : Queue again later

    6:08:18 PM #26 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x044E0000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    6:08:18 PM #27 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Illegal disc

    6:08:18 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    6:08:19 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    6:08:19 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2749
    EndDAO: Last written address was 703

    6:08:19 PM #31 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
    File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 7/17/2002 9:05:10 AM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.18a, size=20576 bytes, created 6/15/2005 10:14:00 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 11:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
     
  14. alkohol

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    @DKDeluxe,

    Apparently, I don't know what to say anymore. It's ironic, and for some reason, I keep saying this; what dvd or movie are you trying to back up from (I know it's already in your HD)? Is this a movie or files which was downloaded from the net? Could it be corrupted inside one of the file? I may be wrong, so please correct me all right.

    On Nero Burning Rom, I use the "UDF/ISO" for PS2 Games burning only. For DVD movies and AVI files, I use "DVD-Video" for my backing up. Here is a picture I just made it.
    [​IMG]

    Again, I really am lost at this point. However, the dvd burner still rejected or didn't like the media as well. Hope Mr. Creaky will be able to troubleshoot or find a solution in due time. Sorry, not much help here.
     
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    @DKDeluxe -

    - this still isn't right. if you've done the DMA thing and it's still not saying 'ATAPI DETECTED' then you'll have to reload the motherboard drivers

    - this isn't right - you're burning too close to the outer edge of the disc. I can't remember now, did we discuss the DVD Shrink target size before ?. Either way, set target size in preferences to 4300MB thus avoiding edge of all discs

    Grrrr!


    Right i've had another thought....there are at least a couple of long-running threads about external burners, all seem to have problems with USB, not with Firewire. I've got one last suggestion and that would be to see if the burner could be taken out of it's enclosure and the dvd-rom put in it's place, the burner being installed internally to the PC.

    I use my cd writer/dvd-rom combo in a usb2 enclosure, and it does ALL my ripping/cd burning, and has not once caused me a problem in sooo many movies. I would try this provided the Sony can be easily removed from the enclosure..


    here's one of the long-running epic threads re external burners - nothing concrete in there yet, even a Nero techie is in there (Craig) - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/102002

     
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    Creaky/Alkohol,

    How do I reload the mother board drivers? I changed the DMA settings through my registry last time. Couldn't change it in device manager. DO you know another way?

    Does my DMA setting have to be on for all drives or only for CD/DVD Burners?

    I hooked the Burner up to my friends PC and it burned DVD-R Media fine. So I think there is something wrong with a driver somewhere.

    I don't want to re-install my OS..................OH NO....NOT THAT......
     
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    DMA is only needed for non-USB stuff. DMA shows to be ON in your last log, but that question mark looks like it's there cus you got burner connected externally so leave dma/drivers be.

    Short of reinstalling XP over the top of existing XP the only other choice is to connect that drive internally
     
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    Creaky,

    I'm gonna use the System Restore. That will change my settings/drivers back to what they were before I loaded the burner,
    Right? If that works, then I guess it's something in my OS/BOIS/Drivers or something not so obvious. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks for everything guys.......

     
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    Did you get a resolution to this?
    I'm seeing the same symptoms on a new (internal) Sony DRU-800A drive I just bought.
    I can create a data -R, but Not a movie.
    I can create the movie on +R media.
    I have tried Fugifilm and Sony media.
    I upgraded to the KY04 firmware (unit came with KY01).
    I uninstalled DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, and the Nero software (then rebooted and installed again). Same results (added to my coaster collection).
    I tried two different source disks (Pirates of Caribbean and a Paul McCartney concert).
    Any suggestions would be appreciated!

    Thanks
     

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