I agree with everything being said...however...what about those who just don't have the smarts to do it themselves? I have to update boxes for 4 people, all of whom I work with, (last year as well for those who were actually on this site then) because they just can't comprehend the methods involved. I accept it's possibly a watch your ass thing or even a threat of legal action, and the forum owners have the right to restrict posts as they see fit...but to me the reaction of some of the members here is a bit OTT and a bit "I'm glad this happened so now you can't be lazy anymore". Why did you all post the codes in the first place if you felt that way? You can find out how to electrically re-wire your home on the web...so all the info is there...but maybe you don't understand it,or are apprehensive in attempting it... thats why you ask someone to help you out. Sorry for the rant but once again' think of those who don't understand it like we do!