thanks very much DesB, factory reset was indeed the answer,all up and running again, sorry for appearing the thicky newb but i guess everybody there at one stage, thanks again, tex
Can someone tell me when i put the 4 digit number to get the secert menu it just keeps going to language
Select English > Installation Choose Provider etc Automatic Scan Press OK Channels found Exit Menu 1570 Turn EMU key ON Exit , exit , exit