_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ [bold]PLEASE NOTE: THIS GUIDE IS FOR NEWBIES. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE ON PROTECTED CD READ THIS THREAD FIRST: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699 [/bold] _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 'Images' are (usually very large) files that represent the digital copy of a CD. This way of copying CDs has many advantages with respect to simply copying files due to the following features: 1) all CD formats (AUDIO, CD-ROM, CD-XA, PSX, PS2, DC, VCD, SVCD, and so on) are supported 2) almost all information (e.g. Boot sectors) can be copied 3) an image copy is almost close to a 1:1 copy so, in some cases, even the protection scheme can be bypassed Due to their particular feature, maximum care must be taken when dealing with such files, because it is very easy to do something wrong, then resulting in unreadable disks (else known as 'coasters'). More then that, image types are absolutely non standard, and occur in many formats, the most common of them being: - .ISO (ISO 9660 standard: Isobuster, WinISO, CDRWin, Alcohol 120% ...) - .ISO (non-standard: Easy CD Creator) - .BIN/.CUE (CDRWin, Alcohol 120%) - .CCD/.IMG/.SUB (+ .CUE optional) (CloneCD, Alcohol 120%) - .NRG (Nero) - .BWT (BlindWrite) - .CDI (DiscJuggler) - .MDS/.MDF (Alcohol 120%) Also please note that images 'shrink' when you burn them, so a 747 MB file will fit on a 74 min CD, an 808 MB file will fit on a 80 min CD and so on. In general, we recommend using Alcohol 120%, since it allows burning almost all types above mentioned (except .NRG). Some software (e.g. BlindWrite Suite, DiskJuggler) might be needed for successful backup of very advanced protections (SecuROM 4.8x, Safedisc 2.9x). In the following you'll find the proper settings for the most popular applications: Alcohol 120%, Nero, CloneCD, CDRWin. =========== BURNING GUIDE WITH ALCOHOL 120% (all image types except .NRG) =========== [bold]Note: Alcohol should be good for burning images of (almost) all protected CDs (except SecuROM 4.8x and Safedisc 2.9x)[/bold] Please note that a guide for Alcohol, complete with pictures, is located here. Use Datatype: 'Normal CD' for burning unprotected CDs and refer to the Guide posted in the main page for burning images of protected CDs: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/28487 1) Open Alcohol 120% 2) Click on 'Image Burning Wizard' 3) push 'Browse' then load the proper file(.CUE, .CCD, .ISO) file. 4) Now you should see the info of the loaded image. Push 'next'. 5) On the next screen check that your recorder is shown. Look at the 'Datatype' drop-down menu: 6) Change the 'Datatype' drop-down menu according to the protectionyou detected on the original CD (or image). In this example we set 'Playstation' since the CD is a PSX CD. You'll notice that this setting automatically changes Write Method from DAO/SAO to RAW DAO and deselects 'rectify Sub-Channel Data'. Different Datatypes will activate different settings. 6) The write speed is set accordingly to your system resources. Just avoid burning at high speed for PSX CDs (since PSX CD-ROM sucks). Click 'Start' to start burning. 7) On the next screen you are able to keep track of the burning process. Avoid using too many system resources during the burning process. 8) A popup will inform you at the ending of the burning. The Backup CD has been completed! ================= BURNING GUIDE WITH NERO (.NRG, .CUE/.BIN, .ISO) ====== 1) open Nero and click 'Cancel' if 'Create CD' window opens 2) Choose File---> Burn Image. Version 5.5.9.9 and above have support for .CUE files, too. On versions under 5.5.9.9 you neet to select 'all files (*.*)' 3) Open the image file. 4) If the image type is .ISO and a popup 'Foreign Image file' opens BE CAREFUL: the .ISO is non-standard and you are at very high risk to burn a coaster. In this case choose 'Correct', select 'Data Mode 1' by default and 'Data Mode 2' if you know you're dealing with PSX, PS2, Video CD or Mixed Mode CD (data+audio). Also choose 'RAW data' ('Block size' = 2352 should set automatically). 5) Set the proper write speed (as low as possible for PSX and VCD). All other setting should be 'Write' 'Fnalize CD' 'Justlink/Burnproof', Choose 'Disc-At-Once' if available, then click on 'Write' Some screenshots are shown here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/29164 ================= BURNING GUIDE WITH CLONE CD (.CCD/.IMG/.SUB set) ====== 1) Open CloneCD 2) Click the second button (Write From Image File) 3) Click 'Browse' and load the .CCD file, then 'Next' 4) The next screen is tricky. Depending upon the icon you choose, CloneCD activates some write option that, on some CDs, may help copying the protection scheme. Try choosing among the default settings or look on the net for the proper settings if you know you're dealing with a protected CD (laserlock, safedisc etc.) 5) OK will activate burning. ================= BURNING GUIDE WITH CDRWin (.CUE/.BIN or .CUE/.IMG sets) ====== 1) Open CDRWin. 2) Do not try to unlock CDRWin with illegal codes found on the net: the program will seem to unlock in any case but it will burn coasters if the code is not correct. 3) Click the first button 'Record Disc' 4) Click 'Load Cuesheet' button and load the proper .CUE file. Please note that if you receive errors maybe the image path written on the .CUE might be uncorrect. In this case open the .CUE file with Notepad and check that on the 1st row (FILE "...." BINARY) the correct path of the image (the large file that came with the .CUE) is written. Otherwise, correct it. 5) If you can, click on the 'RAW Mode' button. This is not always necessary, except when the CD is protected. All other options are left blank. 6) Click on 'Start Recording'. ========================================================== ==================== SPECIAL CASES =============== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ a) .ISO coasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wisdom found on the net tells that .ISO images created by Easy CD Creator are non-standard. That is: their size is NOT 2048 * N bytes (N being the sectors used in the original CD, with N <= 333,000 (or 360,000), the maximum allowed for a 74 min (or 80 min) CD. This means that EZCD adds lead-in and lead-out bytes to the image (please note that Nero does the same, but at least it warns that the image is a non standard by calling it .NRG), so that another application will not understand those lead-in bytes, with the result of burning coasters no matter which import/burn settings you apply. So, if you go on burning a coaster using other software, try using EZCD (or try the 'desperate' method c) listed below) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ b) .BIN or .BIN.EXE files without .CUE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now you're in trouble because usually .BIN should be distributed together with their .CUE file. You can either try with Nero: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/29164 or you can guess one (It should work 95%) by opening Notepad and typing: FILE "name-of-your-image" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2352 INDEX 01 00:00:00 "name-of-your-image" being the name of the BIG file you got (for instance: "dev-civ3.bin" or "Sim City 4 CD1 bin.exe" or whatever. Also, if you're burning a PSX game change MODE1 to MODE2. Save the Notepad file in the same directory of the image file but with the .CUE extension (Call it as you wish, for instance IMAGE.CUE) and start again the steps above mentioned. Please note that if you got a protected CD, Nero is unable to write the image correctly, and you NEED to write doen a CUE file to use with, say Alcohol 120%. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- c) I followed the steps above mentioned but I go on burning coasters! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FIRST: CHECK IF THE GAME IS PROTECTED OR NOT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can easily detect if a game is protected by searching info on the Net. You can also use some software, ClonyXXL for instance, to scan the original CD. If you have an image (not a CD) and if you want to detect if it is protected, you can 'Mount' the image on a virtual drive (with, say, Alcohol 120%) and then scan it with ClonyXXL (as if you had the original CD placed in the virtual drive). AFTER SCANNING, REMEMBER TO UN-MOUNT THE IMAGE BEFORE BURNING. If the CD is a PC CD and *is* protected then you might want to read THIS thread http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699 If the CD is a PC CD and is *not* protected (either because it has never been protected, either because the protection has been removed), try this 'desperate' method: a) Open Isobuster b) open the image file with isobuster c) right-click on the highest directory on the tree (above the 'Session' folder) and select 'Extract ... <content>' d) save the content on your HD e) burn the extracted files on CD (it is a simple file burning, now). Just check that the burned CD volume name matches with the one shown in the main folder of the image (e.g. SIM4CD1). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SECOND: CHECK IF THE IMAGE IS CORRUPTED --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note that if the game is protected by protection methods using unredable sectors, say Safedisc or Laserlock, a good image will seem corrupted so this part ONLY APPLIES TO UNPROTECTED IMAGES. If the image is corrupted you can do anything but the CD will not work. To detect if the image is broken, We suggest to use CDMage, a very friendly application (it does not even install system files). You can check an image by opening CDMage and choosing 'Action--->Scan for corruption' from the main menu. Should errors be found, they'll be shown on a 'Error Log' window. If you find any error, you can 'Locate' (right-click on the error) the file that has been damaged and, if you get a new copy of the bad file, replace the broken sector. If the error has LOW severity, CDMage might even be capable to repair it! (again, right-click it). Finally, if the file is not very useful (for instance, a .WAV file, or an .AVI) you can use the 'desperate method' listed below (extract files on HD) and put another file (with the same name and, if you can, the same size) in place of the corrupted one. Please note that this tecnique is often used to 'Rip' games, i.e. to remove all unnecessary files (sound, movies) from a game to reduce its size. When you try to install the 'ripped' game you'll probably get 'CRC errors' by the installer but often the game will manage to play anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------- THIRD: ALCOHOL COASTERS -------------------------------------------------------------- Some posts about Alcohol burning coasters arrived at Afterdawn's. Some people managed to fix that by changing application (CDRWin, Nero). There are two known reasons for Alcohol burning coasters: 1) You tried to burn subchannel data info, so you selected RAW DAO. Your burner is not capable to write SUB data, all burning seems fine but the result is a coaster. 2) You are doing a backup of a Safedisc2 protected. Your burner does correct EFM-Encoding of regular bit-patterns but by default Alcohol's Safedisc v2 setting perform 'Bypass EFM errors', thus resulting in a DOUBLE 'EFM error' emulation. If you are on case 1), select RAW SAO 16. If you go on burning coasters, choose RAW SAO. You'll *not* be able to backup SecuROM protected CDs, but you'll manage to backup Laserlock and Safedisc. If you're on case 2) you have to edit the default Safedisc v2 Alcohol setting, disabling (unchecking) the default setting 'Bypass EFM error'. Look here (thanks to Clone CD forum) to learn how to do that http://clone.cd/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=583 *********************************************************************************************** Updates: 3-3-2003: added SPECIAL CASES section 10-2-2003: added 'CDMage trick' on section c) 2-18-2003: added 'Alcohol coasters burning RAW/DAO' at the end of the guide 4-3-2003: added link to 'Backup protected CD thread' 5-3-2003 added a 2nd reason for Alcohol burning coasters and a simple solution for that 12-3-2003: general revision 25-3-2003: added pictures on Alcohol 120 section
Damn! You've been busy man. Thanks. Perhaps I could/should post those to the actual site (articles section) as well?)
Some VERY good info. I have 1 little question...You say to check on the net to see if a file is `protected'. I'm new to all this and was wondering if you might be able to tell me where on the net to check ?(It is a really big place !)
There is a lot of info in the net. Also, there is some software that do this job for you. Read this thread, first: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699
Thanks aldaco12, I'm a raw recruit to this aspect of computers. I am intimidated by the expertise of others in forums. Thogh not an old man I'm a bit older than most I would guess. It get's harder to learn as you get on. So that guide was so good for me. I've been drowning in wave after wave of info but that condensed it for me. So thanks & I will swallow my male pride & ask in future. Max
nice summary...you guys are good...wish i had stayed in school and paid attention some more...well off i go now to download some software and give this a try..thanks again
Nice forum and great information but I cannot seem to solve this problem. After creating another coaster, I think I need help! I have an iso and tried to burn the image with Nero. Everything seemed to go fine until I tried to access the CD. It comes up blank. I followed the instructions in this guide but it doesnt want to 'play ball'! Using ISOBuster I have extracted the ISO file to a RAW 2352 .bin file. If I create a CUE file and attempt to burn this image, will it work or will I create another coaster. Hope someone can help! Cheers, Looted
It worked! By extracting the original ISO with ISOBuster and creating BIN file, then making a CUE file to match, Nero burned the CD successfully. WooHoo!! Finally! But I am still curious as to why the original ISO would not show up after burning it to disk. Cheers, Looted
Hi, I'm having problems burning a SVCD film. I have a .bin & .cue file. The problem is not with the burning the file - more the outcome. Using Nero and setting the write speed at 4x (the lowest option) and Disc-At-Once the file is burnt but when I view the result the file does not play properly. It skips from scene to scene and the audio is messed up. I am using a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2102 (DVD/CD-RW). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for that summary, it is greatly appreciated. I'm essentially brand new to burning so this guide is greatly appreciated by myself. -Lased
funny that you should use simcity 4 as an example. This is the very program that has me pulling my hair out and stocked with enough coasters for a lifetime. I d/led 2 separate simcity4.bin.exe files. Tried to create the .cue files as mentioned but neither alcohol and nero want to know. Comes up with unrecognised file format error. Anyways wondered if u had ne more info seeing as how u used simcity4 as an example. Cheers
hey, Im a newbie and was wondering how to burn psx files with clone cd. I've read the guide, but how do you add .cue, .img, and .sub to the cd. thx
Please keep this thread for more generl questions. To briefly address your problem, SinCity4 is SecureROM protected (I think). For information on how to Burn SecuROM and in particular, SecuROM 4.83: (using Alcohol120) http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/43802 (using CloneCD) http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/26771 _X_X_X_X_X_[small]ASUS A7V8X-X, AMD2500+ Samsung 1024MB, PC2700 360GB [3x120GB, 7200, 8MB] MSI Starforce, GeForce4 Ti4400 128MB Rules and Policies: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487 AFTERDAWN IRC: irc.addictz.net, #ad_buddies COME SAY HI![/small]
