Still having problems w/ Dual Layer burning... Please Help!

gsmackfan
philraz is correct as you d/l'd the firmware for Sony DVD RW DRU-810UL and not for yours

 

Hey Guys,

It's funny that you mentioned the firmware. I was just looking at that last night, and I think I mistakenly told another A-dawner to download the 2.0d for his drive. Oops. I'll find him and update to caution him...

What's weird is, when I first looked at updating the firmware for the drive (a few months ago), I checked the bottom of the drive and it said DRX-810UL. But, according to the PC (and the logs I have displayed) it's a 810A. Are they the same thing? I thought they may be, just a different designator. They're probably not the same, but which is correct and why is it labeled differently on the drive itself? I don't get that.

Well, the drive works when I burn with the laptop, but maybe I'll try the other FW (1.0d) and try it again with the desktop PC. Could that be what's causing the failures when burning??? Just asking, as I don't know.

I'll post results when done. Thanks you guys,

Gregg

 

Just a quick update... I did a quick Google search and found that the
DRU-810A is an internal DL burner and the DRX-810UL is the USB/External version of it.

This was also verified on CD FreaksSee this article, if desired. Maybe I'm missing something...

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12275

But, why is the PC recognizing it as a 810A??? Maybe an expert out there can clarify this issue. I'll still try the 1.0d FW, to see what it does.

Thanks again,

Gregg

 

The drive is still an 810a, the UL just denotes that it is an external. The drive is the 810a in an external enclosure, you could pull it out of the case and use it as an internal and it would work.

 

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying Arniebear... much appreciated.

I'll try the 1.0d then, and see what happens with buring with my desktop. Maybe that was it. I knew it had to be something simple... and probably something that 'I' caused. Something easily overlooked.

Thanks again!

Gregg

 

@gsmackfan I told you they would jump out of the woodwork to help. Good bunch of people around here. JMO

 

Hey Guys,

I just tried to re-flash the Sony External DRU-810UL (which is actually an 810A), and I get an error saying:

"The drive is not allowed to be updated"

Any ideas??? I mistakenly re-flashed it a few months ago, to 2.0d FW, thinking it was the right one for DRX-810UL.

I'm stumped. Maybe someone has seen this before... I hope.

Thanks in advance,

Gregg

 

Your fw is listed as correct on the Sony site, for a 810UL it should be 2.0d that is not your problem so do not worry about any reflash.

http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/drx810uldwn.htm

 

Ok I'm gunna climb in again as I seem to have messed up with the firmware issue, I just want confirm a couple of things

1.the external burner reads and burns normaly on your laptop but not on your desktop unit ?

2.you can burn dvd 5 but not dvd 9 on your desktop ?

3.you have used the same usb cables for both laptop and desktop ?

4.can you do a test burn on the laptop and post a log I'm wondering if windows is reporting the ext burner incorrectly on your desktop ?

5.are you using a hub between your usb card and the burner ?

 

philraz,

1.) You're correct, I can burn a DL DVD (DVD9) no problem with my laptop (Toshiba Satellite L25-S119) using ImgBurn, but not with my desktop (Dell P4 1.4GHz w/ Windows XP SP 2).

2.) Correct again. I've burned a ton of DVD5s with my desktop, with both my internal burner (Sony DRU-530A) and with my external, the 810A/UL or whatever the heck it is! For DVD5s, I use Nero 7 Ultra and have only had a few problems over the last few years, which were probably opeator error. 400+ DVD5 back-ups.

3.) Correct again. I just unplug the USB cables from the USB ports on the desktop or laptop, and plug into the other (power off on eveything, just to be safe). Simple plug and play.

4.) Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question here... as I have posted (2) ImgBurn logs that I tried on my desktop with a DVD9. See other posts, or let me know if you want to see something else. As much as I can tell, the desktop is seeing the external burner as a DRU-810A. As I mentioned in another one of my previous posts, I forgot to save the log from the successful burn that I had the other night with the laptop. I believe the laptop sees the burner as the same thing (810A). I have another concert DVD that I am ready to back-up, so I'll try to do that tonight with my laptop, and I'll save the log. I'll post for you guys to see and compare...

I'm almost thinking there is something 'newer' related to Windows that I have on my laptop (since it's only a few months old), that I don't have on my desktop?!? Perhaps an update that I need?

5.) No hub between the USB card and burner. Just a straight shot.

I know, it's puzzling. I thought the firmware thing was it...

In the meantime, I'll keep using my laptop to burn DVD9s. I don't burn that many, so in reality... it's no huge deal. But now, I'd just like to get to the bottom of this and get to the root cause... for my own mental stability! Ha!

Thanks for your help you guys!

Gregg

 

Your burner is being seen as an 810a because that is what the drive is, however it is in an external enclosure and given a different listing for id purposes. I have a Plex 716a internal and external, the external is a 716UF when you buy, but it is still just a 716a to the computer and shows the same as the 716a internal. Have you tried any other program but ImgBurn to do you dual layers on your desktop, since you can burn on the laptop there has to be some difference in setup. The drive is obviously working.

 

arniebear,

I understand the whole 'drive ID' and what the system recognizes things. No worries there. Someone else clarified that I have the correct FW on the external.

I just upgraded to Nero Ultra 7 a few weeks ago, and I tried that once for DVD9s, but I don't think I was in the correct application to burn a DL disc. Plus, it was late at night... wasn't really awake!

Is there anything you (or others) can recommend in Nero? I love the program and it's done wonders in the past for me for DVD5s. I would certainly try it, if someone had a suggestion.

Actually, I think I was in Nero Burning ROM (not 100% on that) and when I tried to 'click and drag' the ISO file from the right hand side over to the left, for a new compilation, I got an error saying 'file size is too big', 'try using the UDF mode'... or something like that. So, I went back out into the main Nero 7 screen and saw there was a 'Make UDF DVD' option (something like that), so I tried that and that didn't work... can't remember exactly what the error was then.

As I said, if anyone can recommend anything to try in Nero, that would be awesome.

Thanks for your time you guys,

Gregg

 

After looking at your logs you are right the problem starts near what will be the LB. If you still have your original you can try ripping in F mode of Decrypter the use Nero BR to backup. But if not I have also done iso backups using CopytoDVD which is a Nero like program and works well for DL's. There is a free trial of this program if you would like to try it.

http://www.vso-software.fr/download.php

I did notice that the speed is fast in the logs, the only time I got an error like you had is when I forgot to change my speed to 2.4x for my burn. Decrypter could not handle the LB at the higher rate using my external Plex.

 

Thanks for the info. arniebear. I'll try your suggestions.

So, Nero Burning ROM will handle a disc that was ripped in file mode??? Huh. I didn't think it could... as I thought you had to have an .iso or something similar. I'll check into it.

You're right, in one of the ImgBurn logs I posted, I forgot to change the write speed to 2.4x. The other one I did, and it still failed. Also, what's weird is... in my latest attempt the other night with my laptop, I left the burn speed set to 'Max' (forgot to change it again) and got a successful burn, with a top write speed of almost 7.x! Go figure.

Anyways, I'll mess around with Nero a little and see how that goes. So, do you just basically select the entire 'movie' folder containing the audio_TS and video_TS files, etc. and move that over to a new compilation (left hand side of window)? I may need a little help with the specific process, but I'll try it out and post how it goes. Maybe that will work for me... who knows?

Thanks,

Gregg

 

Here is Nero guide from me, don't know if it will work for you









This is for booktype settings, which I believe your burner does to ensure playback on all players.

 

Thanks for the guide arniebear, I appreciate your efforts. It was a tad tricky to follow, but I got it all setup correctly and attempted to burn with Nero Burning ROM with no success. The burn crapped out this time at 47%, with a 'write error'.

I saved the log, see below: (Nero SN removed per rules)

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/20/2004 12:41:48 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004

1:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.0.0
Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-810A> Version: 2.0d - HA 1 TA 2 - 7.0.0.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <_NEC DV-5800A >Version: 1.0A - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.0.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : MAXTOR 4K080H4 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : HDS722516VLAT80 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DV-5800A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-530A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DV-5800A F: CDRom0
SONY DVD RW DRU-530A G: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1047856kB)
Free physical memory: 618MB (633084kB)
Memory in use : 39 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

23.3.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
7:00:33 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
DVD-Video files reallocation started

7:00:33 PM #2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 574
Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified

7:00:33 PM #3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 574
Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified

7:00:33 PM #4 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
DVD-Video files reallocation completed

7:00:33 PM #5 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6410
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:00:33 PM #6 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
DVD-Video files sorted

7:00:34 PM #7 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

7:00:34 PM #8 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

7:00:34 PM #9 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer I: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A running

7:00:34 PM #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3304
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:00:34 PM #11 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3304
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:00:34 PM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3301
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

7:00:34 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 277
Last possible write address on media: 4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
Last address to be written: 4006879 (890:25.04, 7825MB)

7:00:34 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:00:35 PM #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2568
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer

7:00:35 PM #16 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 456
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:00:35 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 846
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 4006880 (4006880) = #4006880/890:25.5
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 4006880 blocks [I: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:00:35 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1058
Prepare recorder [I: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 8206090240, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
4006880 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

7:00:35 PM #19 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 34
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

7:00:35 PM #20 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Caching of files started

7:00:35 PM #21 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4129
Cache writing successful.

7:00:35 PM #22 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Caching of files completed

7:00:35 PM #23 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

7:00:35 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2669
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:00:35 PM #25 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 306
CdRom2: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 21 08 04 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 24
Buffer x048a3200: Len x804

7:00:35 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 628
L0 Data Zone Capacity set to 2034832 (1F0C90h, 3974MB) -> OK, confirmed setting

7:00:35 PM #27 CDR -1205 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 655
Burning Layer 1

7:00:35 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 665
Start writing layer 1 at address 0 (0h)
Recording mode: unknown Recording Mode

7:00:35 PM #29 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 306
CdRom2: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 04 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 24
Buffer x048a3200: Len x804

7:00:35 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6068
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A
Book Type request [gen]: DVD-ROM, write to EEPROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

7:00:35 PM #31 CDR -1211 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5202
Book Type set to: DVD-ROM

7:00:35 PM #32 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

7:21:16 PM #33 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 306
CdRom2: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 1C 88 20 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 0C
Buffer x033e0000: Len x10000
0x00 00 01 BA 45 74 FD 54 1D 7D 01 89 C3 F8 00 00
0x01 E0 07 EC 81 00 00 33 FC 97 DF AE 08 71 A5 F7
0xE9 E4 4D 8F 83 7A 3A 7D 81 F1 C6 05 C8 24 4E BE

7:21:16 PM #34 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Write error
I: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A

7:21:17 PM #35 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:21:17 PM #36 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

7:30:09 PM #37 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Generating DVD high compatibility borders

7:30:09 PM #38 CDR -600 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
Device not available
I: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A

7:30:09 PM #39 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

7:30:11 PM #40 CDR -600 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 172
Device not available
I: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A

7:30:11 PM #41 TRANSFER -39 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 172
Could not perform EndSession

7:30:12 PM #42 Phase 39 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Burn process aborted


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/20/2004 12:41:48 AM

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


The 'burn process aborted' was self-induced, as I couldn't get out of Nero. I had to manually 'crash' (turn off) the 810A.

If anyone see anything 'suspicious', please feel free to comment. There's something common to burning DVD9s with the desktop PC, cause I did another DVD5 immediately after this with Recode2/external 810A and everything was fine.

I'm hoping one of you experts out there can see something in some of the error codes or something.

Thanks for your time you guys, I appreciate it. Take it easy,

Gregg

 

Why isn't your burner showing up on the list of devices anywhere, are you sure the computer is recognizing it. Nero is showing it as the recorder but not in the devices and it should show up under CDRom Device Map as a drive. Here is an example of mine, with the Lite-on being an external.

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : TOSHIBA MK6021GAS atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2312 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2312 D: CDRom0
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S E: CDRom3

 

Good question. I didn't really look at the log that much... as I tried the burn kind of late last night. I just emailed the log .txt file to work this morning and posted.

I guess I should look into this some more. I'm not sure why it isn't listed. It is a USB thing? I would think it should be listed as well, since the Iomega External HD (HDxxxxT80) is listed. Huh. Interesting.

If there was an issue though, I don't understand why/how the burn even starts?!? And why can I do DVD5s with Recode2 using the 810A? Confusing.

Anyone else have ideas??? I don't think I got an installation CD or anything with the drive for setup. Maybe I'll check Sony Support.

Thanks,

Gregg

 

Well Nero knows the burner is there and running, but it should show up in the log. Interesting because I have not seen one where the burner even and external is not listed in the device part.

 

arniebear,

I just saw this on the Sony Support link that you have on the thread here,

The correct USB drive installation process is as follows:

DO NOT CONNECT THE DRIVE

1.) Install the software, PC or MAC
2.) Power down the system and connect the drive, if there is a hub
DO NOT use it at this time
3.) Power on the drive FIRST
4.) Upon system power up, the system will detect the drive and
install the drivers.

"If the system displays the drive as an Unknown Device in Device Manager, double-click on it, and select Install Driver. This should install the drivers, and the drive will appear under CD-Rom. If you recieve the message that "Windows is already using the best driver for this device," simply highlight and remove the Unknown Device. Reboot the system and/or turn the drive off and on to refresh."

I don't believe I did this when I got the drive, since I thought the only software that came with the drive was their copy of Nero (which I didn't want to install). I wanted to install my own copy of Nero...

Anyways, I'll check into this more after work and see what happens then. Maybe this is it?!? My only worry is that a bunch of other 'crap' will be installed, that I don't want. Should I take the 'device manager' route to install the driver? Any suggestions?

I also downloaded a 5MB hardware installation MPEG that I will watch, just for grins... maybe there's something on there.

If this is it, I'll feel kinda dumb for not doing this, but oh well... I've done worse!

I'll post how it goes.

Thanks,

Gregg