Still having problems w/ Dual Layer burning... Please Help!

It would be wonderful if this solves some problems, I guess the device mgr route is good. Some mfr will have drivers for their USB drives which have more to do with the enclosures rather than the drive itself.

 

I don't know for sure yet (since I'm at work still), but I think these directions (previous post from me) were for a DRX500UL. The MPEG that I downloaded was an install guide for an internal drive... didn't help me here. Not sure if it's the same for my external 810A/UL.

http://sony.storagesupport.com/cgi-...KvuMfBUndbAhg2yfB6c4HZDsSImIph/dtree/view/569

Anyways, I'll still check the CDs that came with it to see if I missed something.

There's also something else I came across, but I'm not sure if it applies to my case. There's some Windows XP updates on the page below, but I don't think any would apply to the problem I am having with dual-layer DVDs... maybe I'm wrong.

http://sony.storagesupport.com/cdrw/qs_winxp.htm#sw

Or, just a XP driver or update that I am missing???

There's also a Drive Diagnostic test that can be run too, but they say only if Sony Support recommends doing so.

http://sony.storagesupport.com/cdrw/diagnostics.htm

Just thought I'd share this for ideas/suggestions.

Thanks,

Gregg

 

I don't think it is a drive problem, your drive burns okay and you have no problem with single layer disks. You can run the diagnostic tool which is always good to check out your drive performance anyway. It is something that is in the transition at the LB, it may even be a transfer issue. I have run several USB drives and found them to be more forgiving and less touchy than internal. Only bought an internal DVD writer about 8 months ago I have always run USB. Usually if Nero or any other program is having a problem with the drive or enclosure you get a SCSI error and you haven't gotten that. You do not show any problem drivers, and all looks good in your log except for the LB problem. Nero is really not a good program for DL but it was worth a try and the log is always good to show any kind of device errors or conflicts.

 

One last thing (I'm not sure if that helps): Use CloneDVD to rip and write. Also with this tool try both iso and file mode to rip and write. It's the only one that permitted me to write successfully DL discs, always using 2,4 X speed. But mainly as already has reported I believe that's a cabling issue. The only thing that rings me a bell is the layer brake (which is carrying out by CloneDVD). Drained from ideas...

 

Hey Guys.

I'm back with an update on this issue...

First, I made (3) attempts at backing up King Kong last night, using my laptop. This usually works no problem, but I still ran into the same 'I/O error' that I was getting with my desktop and Sony 810UL. (See previous posts if needed for problem description)

So, I kept track of what I did step by step, to try to eliminate some things that could cause the error.

1.) I ripped the movie in .iso mode to my external HD with no problems using DVD Decrypter.
2.) The first (2) attempts using ISO-write with ImgBurn and Decrypter respectively failed, one at 1% complete and the other at roughly, 23%. These (2) times, I inserted the disc into the drive WITHOUT having Decypter opened up. I had all my Norton, Ad-aware, screen saver, etc. disabled. Write speed set to 2.4x and booktype set to DVD-ROM for DVD+R DL.
3.) I thought I'd try one more time, but this time, I made sure I had Decrypter opened and ready to go before putting a DL disc in the drive. I then inserted a DL disc and waited to initialization to complete. I selected the MDS file to burn and verified the booktype was set correctly to (DVD +R DL to DVD-ROM), which it was. I left the burn speed set to 'max' and the burn completed successfully.

So, my question is, is the problem coming from inserting the DL disc at an inappropriate time? i.e. before opening Decyrpter??? Is the layer break info. not being seen from Decypter's side, if the program isn't opened before inserting a disc? Just asking if it matters. What order do you guys use???. I'll try another burn the same way soon, to see if it's repeatable.

I also noticed something else. After the burn completed, I looked at the log... and after 'lead-in' was complete, Decrypter listed 'burning image' as the next step. This is usually 'burning layer 0', then 'burning layer 1'. I didn't think it was going to complete successfully because of this, but I checked the disc in my Sony DVP-NS975V and everything appears fine.

Just thought I'd see if anyone had thoughts/ideas to share on this.

Thanks to all who offered help with this problem.

Gregg

 

Glad that you got a good burn, not sure why Decrypter is not recognizing the media before you open the program, that could be a OS thing. As for the writing of the layers I found this post over at the imgburn site, and it states how the image is written on a dl.

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1139

BTW have you tried ImgBurn to backup, you would still have to rip with Decrypter to iso, but ImgBurn is a more updated version of the Decrypter burning engine.

 

Thanks for the info. arniebear.

Yes, my first attempt last night was with ImgBurn. No luck, and this is with my laptop. Same 'I/O write address' error. It would be nice if it did work with ImgBurn, since it does have an updated burning engine. That's why I tried that first. I would think that it would more likely work with ImgBurn, then Decrypter. Go figure.

It could just be a 'fluke' that I got this to work the 3rd time around, with putting the disc in after Decrypter was opened. Who knows.

Like I said, I'll try again using the same step-by-step process with a different movie and Decrypter, then try the same thing with ImgBurn (opening the program first). Maybe something with the disc info. isn't being recognized by the drive if you don't open the program first?!?

I'll post results when done. Just have to wait to buy another good movie to back-up!

Thanks again,

Gregg

 

You are welcome, post back with your results

 

Hey Guys. It's been a while since my last update, but I'm still trying to conquer this DL burning thing... and I have some good news and bad news to report.

First, the good news. I was able to get a successful burn (according to Imgburn 1.3.0.0, 'Operation Successfully Completed') after updating my FW on my external Sony 810UL (to 2.0e) and using my Toshiba laptop. I was able to back-up two of my DVDs, back to back. So I thought...

Please see the logs below.

I 21:36:42 Operation Started!
I 21:36:42 Source File: F:\DW_DISC_2.MDS
I 21:36:42 Source File Sectors: 4,059,184 (MODE1/2048)
I 21:36:42 Source File Size: 8,313,208,832 bytes
I 21:36:42 Source File Volume Identifier: DW_DISC_2
I 21:36:42 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVDAfterEdit
I 21:36:42 Source File UDF Revision: 1.02
I 21:36:42 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 2.0e (H (USB)
I 21:36:42 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
I 21:36:42 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 21:36:42 Write Mode: DVD
I 21:36:42 Write Type: DAO
I 21:36:42 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 21:36:42 Link Size: Auto
I 21:36:42 Test Mode: No
I 21:36:43 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 21:36:43 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,031,312
I 21:36:43 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 21:36:43 Filling Buffer...
I 21:36:44 Writing LeadIn...
I 21:36:46 Writing Image...
I 21:36:47 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2031311)
I 21:57:37 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2031312 - 4059183)
I 22:18:21 Synchronising Cache...
I 22:18:22 Closing Track...
I 22:18:23 Finalising Disc...
I 22:19:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:43:07
I 22:19:51 Average Write Rate: 3,255 KB/s (2.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,432 KB/s (2.5x)

I 20:34:59 ImgBurn Version 1.3.0.0 started!
I 20:34:59 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 20:34:59 Initialising SPTI...
I 20:34:59 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 20:34:59 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
I 20:44:18 Operation Started!
I 20:44:18 Source File: F:\DW_DISC_3.MDS
I 20:44:18 Source File Sectors: 3,926,317 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:44:18 Source File Size: 8,041,097,216 bytes
I 20:44:18 Source File Volume Identifier: DW_DISC_3
I 20:44:18 Source File Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies
I 20:44:18 Source File UDF Revision: 1.02
I 20:44:18 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 2.0e (H (USB)
I 20:44:18 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
I 20:44:18 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 20:44:18 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:44:18 Write Type: DAO
I 20:44:18 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 20:44:18 Link Size: Auto
I 20:44:18 Test Mode: No
I 20:44:18 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:44:18 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,063,088
I 20:44:18 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 20:44:18 Filling Buffer...
I 20:44:20 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:44:23 Writing Image...
I 20:44:23 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2063087)
I 21:05:34 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2063088 - 3926316)
I 21:24:40 Synchronising Cache...
I 21:24:41 Closing Track...
I 21:24:42 Finalising Disc...
I 21:28:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:43:53
I 21:28:12 Average Write Rate: 3,250 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,369 KB/s (2.4x)

Now for the bad news, when I checked the first back-up, my Sony DVP-NS975V player said 'cannot play this disc'. I checked the other one and got the same thing. I remember seeing the info. screen on the right-hand side of Imgburn after the burn completes, this is what it said... (luckily I saved it)

SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 2.0e (USB)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 4,062,624
Size: 8,320,253,952 bytes
Time: 902:50:24 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x

DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,031,312
Changeable: No

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 0
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 2.52Mbps
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,031,311

It looks as though the booktype is set correctly (DVD-ROM), but why is it only showing me that there's 1 layer??? and a track path of 'parallel track path'??? I thought Imgburn uses OTP (opposite track path) to write? I believe there should be 2 layers listed under the 'Physical Format Information'.

I think there could be something set incorrectly in the 'settings' of Imgburn that I am unaware of... and that's where the great people of AD come in (hopefully). If anyone sees anything out of the ordinary with the logs, or has any thought/suggestions, please let me know.

I didn't change any settings in Imgburn before burning (other than making sure booktype was set to DVD-ROM, and write speed was 2.4x). I did have all other programs/ultilities, etc. turned off before burning (like Norton, Ad-aware, screen saver, wireless).

I tried a movie this past weekend, but forgot to change the booktype to DVD-ROM and that one wouldn't play. I expected that though, since I checked it with DVD Identifier (and Imgburn) afterwards and said it was still a DVD+R DL.

Thanks in advance, much appreciated. I'm so close!!!

Gregg