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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.

Discussion in 'Blu-ray players' started by Ryu77, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. NexGen76

    NexGen76 Regular member

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    Didn't work Odin24 but i was told to do this from Sharktooth.I don't understand what he want me to do?


     
  2. NexGen76

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    Okay these are programs but i know nothing about them.....
     
  3. viperdqn

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm a beginner in this BD to DVD-9 game here, and I hope you can help me with the following problem: AviSynth seems unable to detect the correct duration of the source file. Here are the steps that I follow:

    1. Use TSmuxer to demux 264 video and AC3 audio. Upon completion, TSmuxer reports the number of video frames processed which seems to be reasonable for 24fps rate.

    2. Use MeGUI to create the AVS script -> here's where I notice the total number of frames is about 20x what TSmuxer reported. This is the content of the script:

    DirectShowSource("M:\test.264",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
    #deinterlace
    #crop
    #resize
    #denoise

    3. Encode it to RAWAVC format anyway using "x264: Standalone-AVC-HD" at 4000Kbps, but abort it in the middle of the 2nd pass when the output filesize is greater than the source file whose bitrate as reported by PowerDVD fluctuates between 15 and 25MBps.

    4. Play the output file with PowerDVD, it is around the target bitrate I set (PQ is very close to the original btw) but the content is the looping over and over of the original clip.

    Does anyone see this problem or know what may be the problem. Here's the version of the relevant apps I'm using:

    TSmuxer 1.7.6b
    MeGUI 0.3.0.2015
    AviSynth 2.57
    x264 983
     
  4. odin24

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    When using "DirectShowSource" your source needs to be in a container, i.e. m2ts or mkv. Your problem can be resolved one of two ways, I suggest just demuxing the audio (like step one above), and using the m2ts straight from the BD rip... this is how I alway recode my BD rips.

    Or, I think the latest version of MeGUI does take raw sources as input, but the first line of your script must be;

    RawSource (instead of DirectShowSource)

    Personally, I would go with my first suggestion.
     
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  5. viperdqn

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    I tried the first method like you suggested and now the duration is about 2x the original. The 2nd method does not work for me at all: MeGUI returns AviSynth script error "no function named Rawsource"

    Is it possible that PowerDVD's h264 decoder is interfering somehow? Because when I play the 264 file and the original m2ts, PowerDVD's info shows the same duration as I would get with MeGUI (the playback does end before the progress indicator reaches 100%). I'm using PowerDVD 7 Ultra.

    EDIT: So I uninstalled PowerDVD and installed ffdshow r2137. Now WMP is unable to play h264 video, and though I have the correct duration in MeGUI I don't have the preview video.
     
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  6. odin24

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    PowerDVD is a piece of junk in my opinion. I used it for a while when I bought my burner... I was getting the same thing as you, I got tired of it, now it's uninstalled.

    Use the DirectShowSource with the m2ts, make sure you keep FFDshow, Haali Media spiltter, and CCCP installed. Also, if the duration is kinda (or very much) off, just let the recode go and see what happens. Is it possible you were looking at time remaining rather than duration?
     
  7. viperdqn

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    Thanks Odin, Haali seems to be the missing piece of the puzzle. Now I get the correct duration and video preview. I'm doing a test run right now, and everything looks good so far.
     
  8. Str8Pryd

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    Hey, guys!

    This is my first time posting on this forum and it's a little different from the kinds of forums I frequently post on, so bear with my ignorance.

    I have been encoding DVDs for many years- not just using Shrink-type programs, but using CinemaCraft, etc., so I am vaguely familiar with some of these processes, but I am new to a lot of it and, especially, with high-definition files. And my point is...?

    Well, I've followed both of the threads listed in Ryu77's signature very closely and have completed my first project- putting an episode of everyone's favorite sci-fi saga onto a DVD-9 as a Blu-ray disc. What is significant about this is not that it's some unprecedented accomplishment, but that I documented my steps in reasonable detail. Here's what I've done:

    I put together all of the software from the start of the conversion thread, plus a couple of other pieces I had, into a small software package. Then, I created a sort of "guide manual" in PDF format and threw it in, too. This guide only covers converting HD streams to DVD-sized files compatible with a stand-alone Blu-ray player, such as a Sony PS3, which is my specific interest. Still, I know that many readers of this thread are interested in the same thing, so I thought I'd share it with you guys.

    Here's my goal at the moment: Can some of you guys with more experience, such as Ryu77, Odin24, or others, please download my guide and glance over it for glaring errors? I'd really hate to share bad information and throw these threads back. My little software package is in two pieces to facilitate the size limit for free hosting at MediaFire. (Link at bottom of this post) Since many of you already have the software you need, just download the first segment- the manual is in there.

    Again, please critique the instructions. I don't want bad information getting out there. I know it's not all bad, as my project was successful, but some of the information didn't apply to me and I put it in there based upon what I'd read at these threads.

    Thanks for all your help and time, guys! Cheers!

    Blu-ray Conversion Tool Kit
     
  9. spawn1980

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    I've just made my first BluRay Backup and there is a 4 1/2 Green Bar on the bottom of the screen. How do I fix this
     
  10. Str8Pryd

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    The Blu-ray standard only supports 1280x720p OR 1920x1080p resolutions. Since your video plays, you have properly resized to one of these, but the source video had the letterbox borders removed. Use a calculator and this simple formula to determine your borders:

    Target Width ÷ Source Width x Source Height - Target Height ÷ 2 = Border Size (Top and Bottom)

    Round this number up to the nearest even whole number. For example, if your source video is 1600x752, your target will be 1920x1080 and the calculation would look like this:

    1920 ÷ 1600 x 752 - 1080 ÷ 2 = -88.8 is rounded off to -90.

    This means your source video is short by 90 lines on the top and 90 lines on the bottom. It's actually short by 89 lines each, but even numbers tend to work out better when encoding, and non-integer numbers, like 88.8, won't even be accepted.

    I hope this is clear enough and answers you question. In answer to your next question- yes... you will have to re-encode.
     
  11. alexmtz

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    Ok so here's my problem.
    I ripped a br movie with AnyDvdHd and in the stream folder there's a 30GB .m2ts file and a lot more files (with dvd extras and such).
    I just want the main movie. When I play the big file in WMP there's a voice over the audio (probably for the hearing impaired) and I cannot turn it off.
    Also, I've seen torrents with 1080p Wmv movies under 10G how can i compress/convert a br movie to wmv?

    Thanks in advance
     
  12. Ryu77

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    I just had a chance to take a look at your Kit and Guide. My initial impressions were quite positive. I think you've done a great job. I have found a couple things to improve it though. :)

    It's getting late here in Sydney so I am only going to have a quick look into it and I will post in more detail over the next few days. Before I begin, I want to offer my sincere appreciation for putting in the time to do what I could never find the time to do.

    Ok...

    - The MeGUI kit included in your download package is quite old now. Also, most of the included encoders, applications are likely quite outdated too. I noticed that my profile is an older version and it has also been refined since I posted that package.

    - You mentioned Codec means coder‐decoders, I believe it is compressor/decompressor. I know I am being pedantic but by the look of your guide I get the feeling that you are also of a similar nature and like things done 100% correctly.

    - I know Odin24 likes the CCCP Codec Pack but I believe that K-lite Mega Codec Pack contains everything you should need as it is primarily based on FFDShow and Haali, which are great tools in their own right. I have never needed anything other than K-lite Mega Codec Pack for my Direct Show Filter needs.

    It's not actually as simple as repeating a frame. 3:2 Pulldown means that there will be 3 progressive frames followed by 2 interlaced frames which will extend the FPS to match the desired 60Hz NTSC Refresh Rate.

    It should actually be termed inverse 3:2 pulldown as we would actually be reversing the 3:2 pulldown processing.



    I think I will go to bed now. There is a lot to look through in your fantastic guide so I will pick it up again tomorrow. As a team we can make this already great guide, even better! :-D

    I will also upload the most recent MeGUI package tomorrow including my Blu-ray profile that has been refined slightly.

    PS: tsMuxeR v1.8.8 (Beta) is available now: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.8(b).zip
     
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  13. Str8Pryd

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    Thank you for the compliments and, please, take your time. Like you, I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to this guide and repeated edits would only take yet more time.

    You are most welcome! Your contributions made all of this possible, so I'm trying to do my part to repay your efforts. You seem like a real team player and I support that notion.

    Any assistance in assembling replacement components would be greatly appreciated!

    You are 100% correct that I would like this to be 100% correct. :-D I read on Wikipedia that "codec" could be considered any of a number of things, primarily your definition and the one I used. Wikipedia, being user-contribution based, is, by no means, an authoritative source. Further research on my part confirms that, while there is no "standard" definition, your suggestion is more commonly accepted. I will certainly yield to the "accepted standard" and modify the term accordingly.

    This is good to confirm. I always used K-lite, myself, but "added" CCCP to it, as Odin24 has more experience in this than I. I did notice, however, that while no change in abilities were achieved, the thumbnail generation functionality now causes Windows Explorer to crash frequently. I think I'll remove/restore my codec packages and modify the manual/kit in the same way.

    I agree that I should change my phrasing to reduce misunderstandings. I do, however, want to "oversimplify" it, as the guide is geared to those with no tangible experience. While I don't need to explain certain details, I certainly don't want to mislead, either. I will consider how to rephrase this portion to reflect this.

    Right you are! A glaring error on my part! Wow, I'm glad you're taking the time to help me out with this!

    Again, this is all highly appreciated. I believe we have a common goal here, as neither of is motivated by anything other than the satisfaction of sharing our experience. Neither of us would know what we know were it not for others who did the same, so let's do our part.

    Sweet! I'll integrate it in the next edit.

    Excellent! Thanks again, Ryu77!
     
  14. odin24

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    @ Ryu77 & Str8Pryd

    Holy cow Ryu77, it's been a while, glad to see you're back on. We'll, looks like school's in and this thread will continue flourish... plus another knowledgable person, even better.

    I look forward to what's to come.

    P.S. I think I'll give K-Lite a try.
     
  15. Ryu77

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    Maybe, you could phrase it like this... "The majority of movies produced in the United States for the Cinema are originally recorded at 24 FPS. These films are then usually modified for television or DVD. For North America and Japan, a telecine process termed 3:2 pulldown is added to extend the framerate to 29.98 FPS. This makes the video suitable to be viewed on a 60Hz NTSC Television"

    It's completely up to you as that's just a suggestion. :)

    You're most welcome.
     
  16. Ryu77

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    MeGUI v0.3.0.3001 with all applications, plugins etc. up to date: http://www.mediafire.com/?gdhmjmllwby

    I have only included the Blu-ray & HD-DVD profiles as that is all that would pertain to the usage described in this thread.
     
  17. Str8Pryd

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    I think I'll do that. As I said before, I don't intend to explain every detail, but what I do explain must be correct. Misinformation is difficult, if even possible, to correct.

    Again, thanks for your continuing help in all of this. It's good to see you and odin24 checking in. Once we get a few things updated and hammered out, how do you feel about starting a new thread dedicated strictly to the project I'm addressing, i.e. converting HD video to stand-alone BD-5/BD-9 discs? Just a thought, since this thread is getting so long that people are beginning to ask old questions for the tenth time...
     
  18. Str8Pryd

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    Well, I've made the changes we've discussed to my guide manual, but I have yet to actually post the revisions. I have, however, replaced tsMuxeR and MeGUI in the software package with the updated versions. The link at the bottom of this post has been updated accordingly.

    Note to Ryu77: I hope you don't mind, but I slightly modified the MeGUI folder you uploaded. I changed all of the file path pointers to the C: drive. I also modified your profile to save the log to the MeGUI logfile location on the C: drive, also.

    As you may have guessed, that is simply because all Windows-based machines (at least in the U.S.) must have a C: drive, but many people may not have a D: drive, as MeGUI was configured. My primary PC has five hard drives- C through F, plus X (external), but my other one has three hard drives, C, F, & G, whereas D & E are my optical drives. I thought the adjustment would be more universal.

    I also hope you can forgive my use of American English in the guide manual. I don't think someone of your obvious intelligence will have any trouble understanding that utilize=utilise, color=colour, etc. :D

    Note to odin24: Thank you for the compliment, but knowledgeable might be a bit of a stretch... :) Your input is more than welcome, as well!


    Blu-ray Conversion Tool Kit
     
  19. Str8Pryd

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    The Blu-ray Conversion Kit has been updated:

    1. The new version of tsMuxer is included.

    2. The new version of MeGUI is included.

    3. The new Ryu77 Blu-ray Profile is included.

    4. The new x264 Encoder is included.

    5. The guide manual has been updated as discussed in previous threads. It is now also a separate file so that it can be downloaded without the software package for those who already have the software or just want to look into the guide. The images in the manual are from previous software versions, but the premise is the same.

    Note that by "new version", I am referring to the newest versions which are compatible with the processes described in this thread and in the guide manual. Newer releases may be available in some areas, but are not necessarily a good idea to have...

    As before, input is appreciated. Cheers!
     
  20. murph99

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    Rye,

    Can you please help me with this? I posted this elsewhere in the forums but probably not seen there. TY. I would have pm'd you but at work and won't let me.

    I need some help. I have been using MeGUI for months without a problem. Very recently I received an error message that I have never seen before. Can anyone please help. I am posting the logfile below.

    [Error] Log
    -[Information] Versions
    --[NoImage] MeGUI Version : 0.3.0.2002
    --[NoImage] OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 (5.1.196608.2600)
    --[NoImage] Framework used : 2.0 SP1 (2.0.50727.1433)
    -[Information] Hardware
    --[NoImage] CPU : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz
    --[NoImage] HDD :
    ---[NoImage] Local Disk (C:) - 50 Go free of 87 Go
    ---[NoImage] WD USB 2 (I:) - 75 Go free of 232 Go
    -[Error] Log for job1 (video, Loz1.avs -> )
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 5:26:46 PM] Started handling job
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 5:26:46 PM] Preprocessing
    --[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe" --pass 1 --bitrate 7568 --stats "C:\Program Files\megui\logs\logfile" --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --direct auto --subme 1 --partitions none --qpmin 8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 38000 --qcomp 0.5 --me dia --threads auto --thread-input --sar 1:1 --progress --no-dct-decimate --no-ssim --output NUL "I:\Legend.of.Zorro.2005.1080p.BluRay.x264-CULTHD\legend.of.zorro.1080p.bluray-culthd\Loz1.avs" --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 5:26:47 PM] Encoding started
    --[Error] An error occurred: x264 [error]: could not open input file 'I:\Legend.of.Zorro.2005.1080p.BluRay.x264-CULTHD\legend.of.zorro.1080p.bluray-culthd\Loz1.avs'
    --[NoImage] Standard output stream
    --[NoImage] Standard error stream
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 5:26:47 PM] Job completed
    -[Error] Log for job1 (video, Loz1.avs -> )
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 6:59:52 PM] Started handling job
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 6:59:52 PM] Preprocessing
    --[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe" --pass 1 --bitrate 7568 --stats "C:\Program Files\megui\logs\logfile" --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --direct auto --subme 1 --partitions none --qpmin 8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 38000 --qcomp 0.5 --me dia --threads auto --thread-input --sar 1:1 --progress --no-dct-decimate --no-ssim --output NUL "I:\Legend.of.Zorro.2005.1080p.BluRay.x264-CULTHD\legend.of.zorro.1080p.bluray-culthd\Loz1.avs" --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 6:59:58 PM] Encoding started
    --[Error] An error occurred: x264 [error]: could not open input file 'I:\Legend.of.Zorro.2005.1080p.BluRay.x264-CULTHD\legend.of.zorro.1080p.bluray-culthd\Loz1.avs'
    --[NoImage] Standard output stream
    --[NoImage] Standard error stream
    --[Information] [10/7/2008 6:59:59 PM] Job completed
     

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