The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.

Nevermind my questions! It works perfectly when it's burned out. It was just PowerDVD that was playing with me ;o)

Thanks again all!

 

Hi, have a little problem with a bluray of mine.
I've used anydvd hd to get it onto my computer, but im used to it beeing just 1 big file where teh movie is. This time is was two 19gb files. I need it to only be one file in the end and i have some trouble getting a working one. I encoded the two files seperatly and muxed in subs without problems, (1920x816), now i need to merge them with mkvmerge into one whole movie. The encoded movieparts are 6,5GB each. Since the first part is 1h10min and the second part of the movie is 1h13min and a total of 2h23min.
When i try to merge them as usual there are no since of file 2 of the movie, i only get the first part= 1h10min movie and loose the second part.
Tried to append the two files but then i get this error:

Filepath/filename1.mkv' cannot be appended to the track number 1 from the file Filepath/filename2. The formats do not match.

It also says:

mkvmerge failed with a return code of 2. There were errors.


So my question is, how do i get these two files as one continues movie?

 

You have to append the BD rip first, then encode as a whole. I suggest using eac3to to demux/append, if you're not sure about command prompt then tsMuxeR is a simpler solution.

 

Heh oki i guess i will have to start over again, if it works im more than greatful, will post here after i've tried.

 

Is there anyone that have noticed a difference between a 1pass and 2pass encoding in MeGUI?

 

Odin24,
I have begun several demuxing/encoding variants onto +RW in attempts to confirm compatibility with various BR players and I will post my results as soon as I am finished, for those interested. You brought up eac3to and I have a few questions on it and in general.
1)Eac3to is command driven, and it demuxes as well. Does Eac3toGUI NOT demux, but handle audio conversion only? It seems kind of odd to me that there would be differences in what appears to be the same program! I noticed that Eac3to can demux the BR main feature into ONE, even if split into many parts on the BR itself! This is very convenient. If I am not mistaken, the guide says Tsmuxer can do the same, but one must append each stream manually, and that can be tedious. Can Tsmuxer not 'append' automatically by reading the playlist?
2)Is there any way to convert BR PCM audio to TrueHD?
3)I am having a difficult time getting the Panny BR players to recognize 'BD-5' on SD cards via its slot. The same BD-5 structure on +RW works!, but not on the SD card, even when I use AVCHD Me on it...any suggestions?
4)The guide suggests we demux a small sample clip first for testing using Tsmuxer, and then to recode with MeGUI; BUT, the guide also says that MeGUI does NOT accept raw streams, but ONLY streams in containers...so, how does one get the small sample clip into MeGUI after demuxing with Tsmuxer?

...that's it for now, thanks!

 

Though running the risk of stating the obvious, Odin24, you kick *!#
Your explanation of eac3to really helps. I apologize for my limited computer knowledge; when I was in high school, we were programming the ONE computer(which occupied an entire room on its own!) using bubble cards! With the help of some posts on Doom9, I have learned how to use the BASICS of this program, but will look at the other GUI you mentioned as well! Thanks for the tip about using eac3to over Tsmuxer to combine the files.
Too bad about no TrueHd encoder...there are some BR that have PCM as their 'hi rez' audio and I was hoping to achieve some lossless compression on it, but I guess I will have to wait; though I believe more and more titles are now using TrueHD or DTS-MA over PCM, so this is likely a non-issue going forward.
As for the stinkin' Panny SD slot; I must learn to NOT 'assume'; one would assume that since the same structure played in the DVD tray that it would also play in the slot, but NO! I too believe that it must have something to do with structure, and will do my best to dig and solve it...I will let you know how it goes.
And for the cut in Tsmuxer and output to m2ts, I guess you also have to run the same clip through demux to get the audio out of it so that you can remux it with the video encode after Me GUI? Or can one achieve video encode AND audio remux to mkv in MeGUI(this part was not elucidated in the guide; the guide does not mention the audio portion in MeGUI)...sorry for the repetition, but THANKS!

 

You do not need to do that. After you do whatever to the video portion, load it and the original cut m2ts and de-select the original video stream. Now just mux to Blu or m2ts, no demuxing needed..

If you wish to remux your new encode to mkv then you will need to demux your cut m2ts from tsMuxeR.

 

Once again, thanks for your advice...I appreciate the 'no need to do that; just load in the original cut m2ts to get the audio'...why didn't I think of that? I guess I need to start thinking on my own of the immense capabilities these programs have, especially Tsmuxer! Very flexible indeed! I am tending to stick to what the guide says, and though an excellent piece of work which I have printed out and keep by my side while working, I am learning that there are MANY ways things can be done, and I guess only with time does one find the 'most effective' techniques! More burning of the midnight oil tonight!

 

tsMuxeR is a good program, but honestly, I only use it to mux to Blu or m2ts. Eac3to is by far more superior... except the fact it can only mux to mkv... which is useless to me. As for demuxing/converting; eac3to all of the way.

 

So, Odin24, you demux(Blurays) with eac3to, convert audio with eac3to, recode video with MeGUI and remux to m2ts or BR with Tsmuxer?(I too have no interest in mkvs) I believe this will be my flowchart as well.

 

Exactly. There are a few ways I watch my movies,
-If I need susbtiles I make a BD disc with HD audio and subs.
-If the main movie does not need subs and has DTS HD-MA or TrueHD and will fit on a BD25 then this is how I view, if not I will convert the HD audio to LPCM and copy to my PS3's HDD.

I just watched the Pirates of the Carribean trilogy (not in one sitting) by copying the untouched m2ts file from the rip to my PS3. The files were ~35GB each.

Rip--> eac3to (demux)--> tsMuxeR to BD with PCM or DTS HD-MA
Rip--> eac3to (demux)--> tsMuxeR to m2ts with TrueHD -->tsremux to BD
Rip--> eac3to (demux and convert audio to LPCM)--> tsMuxeR to m2ts--> copy to PS3

Since I have an HD audio receiver I rarely convert my audio, only if I wish to archive to DVD9, then I convert to DTS @ 1536kb/s regardless of the source. Or if I need to convert to uncompressed LPCM.

 

Why convert to LPCM at all? Is it to do with PS3 compatibility? I thought PS3 could bitstream both TrueHD and DTSMA to your HDMI HD audio capable receiver...
Also, I do not quite follow in your 2nd example(I assume these were 3 different examples) with TrueHD, why the need to go to m2ts first and then BR; can't it be done in one pass to BR?

 

The PS3 cannot bitstream HD audio, it decodes and sends as uncompressed LPCM.

The extra step using tsremux us neccesary because tsMuxeR for some reason cannot mux TrueHD properly. There is going to be a revision to tsMuxeR in the new year, hopefully this issue is resolved.

 

OK, that will definitely come in handy when I am trying to preserve TrueHD. I appreciate that little piece of info.
Off I go for a 3rd attempt at SD into the Panny at the local Future Shop; I do believe it is a structure issue, but the question is, will it ONLY recognize AVC footage from an AVCHD camcorder, OR will it allow us to put any compatible BR spec video and audio stream!? After all, that is the/my intent!

 

It should allow you to play anything AVCHD, whether it's h264 or VC-1, I don't think it'll matter.

Here's how the structure should be. Doom9 Link.

I think this is what you need to do.

1. Make your Blu-ray structure, place in the AVCHD folder and use AVCHD-ME.
2. Place that AVCHD folder in a folder called PRIVATE.

I cannot test as I do not have a Panny.

Cheers.

 

I'm trying 1 pass now, to see if there is any major difference in quality.

Not that my Q9450 @ 3.2Ghz with 4GB RAM cannot do a good job, but it still saves me some time.

 

I have now tested it, and i can't see any difference between a 1 pass and a 2 pass.
I have played the bluray disc in WinDVD, and the original .mkv in VLC player, in the exact same size window next to eachother.
They were played simultaneously so that i could compare 'on the fly'.

I'm sticking to 1 pass.

 

Nevermind my last message!!

I compared the original .mkv with a 2 pass bluray disc, so i haven't seen any difference yet.

I'm sorry for the spam!