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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.

Discussion in 'Blu-ray players' started by Ryu77, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. Ryu77

    Ryu77 Regular member

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    Just in case anyone is having problems with stand alone BD players stuttering with BD-5/BD-9 playback. I have created another MeGUI/x264 profile, which is basically a revised version of my Blu-ray profile to include a lower buffer and max bitrate. This will make discs spin at a slower speed which may reduce stuttering in certain stand alone BD players.

    Sophocles mentioned something in another thread which led me to realise that the higher bitrates may be what is causing certain stand alone players to stutter.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b4d35d0acd890a90d2db6fb9a8902bda
     
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  2. odin24

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    Yeah, basically. When you convert your pcm to pcm using pcm2tsmu you need to specify certain values of the track. When converting pcm2tsmu uses the following for defaults;

    24 bits [-i #]
    6 channels [-c #]
    48000 Hz [-s #]

    So, if your True HD track is different, you must tell it so. For example on a 16 bit TrueHD track with 6 channels would look like this.

    Code:
    pcm2tsmu.exe input.pcm output_tsm.pcm -i 16
    or for a 96kHz/24bit with 7.1 channels would look like this.

    Code:
    pcm2tsmu.exe input.pcm output_tsm.pcm -c 8 -s 96000
    I don't think these specifications can be made with eac3to_and_more_GUI, I'm not sure though.
     
  3. odin24

    odin24 Regular member

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    I actually just looked at the link, holy crap!!!! I hope you're not going to pay that amount? I mean I know you'll get cost + a little but really, that's a lot!! Great amp though, I have two on order :)

    Another thing; Your new profile, will it save time on encoding? The version prior to this new one plays fine on my PS3 so I'm wondering is it worth it to replace it?
     
  4. Ryu77

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    Odin, the PS3 will play almost anything thrown at it. As will some of the better stand alone BD Players. The link includes two profiles named to reflect the differences (Ryu77 Blu-ray & Ryu77 AVCHD/BD5/BD9). The only difference with the AVCHD profile is the lower buffer and max bitrate. This will ensure a lower data transfer speed requirement, thus lowering disc spin speed. This could help increase compatability with some stand alone BD players.

    In regards to the Pioneer VSX-LX70 Receiver, I can get a REALLY good price. So good that I wouldn't reveal it here. Put it this way, it would be less than what my store receives it for.

    Oh, and if you want to talk about expensive... Did you see the SC-LX90? RRP is $10,999!! 1400w of window breaking, neighbourhood relations destroying power!

    http://www.pioneer.com.au/Products/Home Entertainment/Amplifiers and Receivers/SC LX90.aspx
     
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  5. marsos

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    Hi, i will try this site again since it worked fine last time.
    I have some trouble to get the right aspect ratio.
    I have a movie with teh aspect ratio 2,35 and 16/9 widescreen. When im endcoding i first use megui to make an avs script, in that script i put DAR, display aspect ratio to 2,35. I get the resolution 1920x816. I've now encoded the movie and when i look at the mkv without had muxing the audio into it, it says:

    Format : Matroska
    File size : 7.54 GiB
    Duration : 1h 30mn
    Overall bit rate : 11.9 Mbps
    Writing application : x264
    Writing library : Haali Matroska Writer b0
    Video
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 30mn
    Bit rate : 11.5 Mbps
    Nominal bit rate : 11.9 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 816 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.35
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Resolution : 24 bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.318
    Writing library : x264 core 65 r1024M 2652abe
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=11936 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

    But when i look at the mkv when iƤve muxed the audio i get:

    Complete name : F:\HDRIP STUFF\TM_out-muxed.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    File size : 7.95 GiB
    Duration : 1h 30mn
    Overall bit rate : 12.6 Mbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2008-11-13 12:56:21
    Writing application : mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:13:15
    Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
    Video
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 30mn
    Bit rate : 11.4 Mbps
    Nominal bit rate : 11.9 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 816 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16/9
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Resolution : 24 bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.318
    Writing library : x264 core 65 r1024M 2652abe
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=11936 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
    Language : English

    As you probably have noticed the Display aspect ratio have changed from 2,35 to 16/9. Does this seem right to you or can you see any other problems with my file?
     
  6. odin24

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    What are you using for playback? If PC your video will play fine in mkv format. If PS3, mux to m2ts with AC3 audio, it will play fine on the HDD. If Blu-ray, you need to resize to 1920x1080 using MeGUI/AviSynth.

    The original encoder cropped the widesceren bars so the x264 application can concentrate fully on the actual video, isnstead of the black bars too.
     
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    I was hoping to get some advice. I have been following the excellent guide linked at the beginning of this thread and had a question. I ripped a BD that I was going to reencode to a DVD9 for playback on a PS3. I loaded the avc stream into MeGUI I noticed the resolution was listed as 1920x1088.

    The guide says to resize to 1920x1080. Does this still apply, since the source was a BD and it's listed as 1920x1088? I guess what I'm asking is should I leave it 1920x1088, resize to 1920x1080, or crop 8 lines from the bottom?

    I also got an error about having to change the colorspace. Is it going to cause problems if I allow it to make the change to my script?
     
  8. marsos

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    Im using a htpc for playback. Oki so the display aspect ratio should be oki and wont fuckup the video when watching it then?
    Dont want it in 1920x1080 but thnx for your fast reply.
     
  9. odin24

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    You should crop 4 lines from the top and bottom making the resolution 1920x1080.

    Code:
    AviSynth code
    
    crop(0,4,0,-4)
    OK then, you do not need to resize or add additional lines when recoding. Technically your video is still what is considered "1080p", the only difference is the 264 lines that are missing were the black widescreen bars originally taken out. Actual Blu-ray/HDDVD movies are the same, the black lines of resolution, or widescreen bars are part of the 1080 horzontal lines in high def content.
     
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  10. Ryu77

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    That doesn't sound right to me. If it is sourced from an original Blu-ray disc then it should already be 1920 x 1080 and no resizing will be neccessary. Try using an application called MediaInfoRaw to establish what resolution your file is.
     
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    I thought so too, sounds more like a HDTV capture... also the colourspace is different too, possibly mpeg2.
     
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    I want to say software but one that I would highly recommend. It is the absolute cornerstone to all of the preceding information found in this thread. AnyDVD-HD removes all encryption and copy protection on the fly from your Blu-ray, HD-DVD or DVD as soon as you load a disc into your drive.
     
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    Huh?? Why would he quote some random sentence from the title page to this thread. Looks like a bot to me, especially considering the convenient advertising in his/her... umm... it's signature! I think I will press the offensive post button.
     
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    sohel1, lightning struck!!!
     
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    I just cought this thread, excellent info.
     
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    umm excuse me, does anyone know if TVersity will stream m2ts files?

    I know Cyberlink Media Server does but u have to buy that and I...dont have the funds to do so.

    Anyone know of any media servers that will stream m2ts files? WMP cant do this
     
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    It does, but the files need to be renamed to m2t, not sure how though.
     
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    I feel like joining up to that forum just so I can tell Terjyn how wrong he is. He seriously thinks that BD+ hasn't been cracked yet... So I guess this whole thread (and many others) is just all part of our imagination and we are just blogging random junk for the fun of it.

    Edit: I couldn't help myself... I had to let him have it.
     
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    You kept it pretty clean, I don't think you'll get banned. As long as the conversation stays hot I think you should keep going. At least you're not alone (dadkins) seems like he knows a thing or two.

    I can't believe all of those oblivious people, I mean, I don't promote distributing pirated material in any way, but c'mon, at least acknowledge it can be done, and fairly easily.
     
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